Thread 17980442

Why did Japanese invent bullet trains and not Europeans?

>>17980442 (OP)
Because Europeans are racially inferior to the Japanese.

>>17980442 (OP)
Japanese work culture is absolutely fucking toxic and demands that Salarymen commute over 100 km to work every single morning before they decide to jump off a building to end themselves which created a market for these bullet trains for quicker intracity commuting.
Europe is meant to be a Walkable Paradise™ and most Americans work within their own city.

>>17980442 (OP)
They're a unified country (so one railway agency, policy maker etc), the country's size and geography warrants very high speed trains and like >>17980458 said European work culture is very different. Europeans don't commute distances that warrant bullet trains.

In Europe you can go from one country to next within $100 on flight, you don’t need train at all.

>>17980560
Same here in the US with regional airlines and short-haul flights

The Japanese have always been technologically daring.
France’s TGV in 1981 was still revolutionary.

>>17980442 (OP)
>Train
>Train (japan) (long nose)

As the guys said, europe is less suited to high speed rail in general due to polycentric structures. Japan is basically a long line with a few centers of very high population, europe is more drawn out. Eastern and southern europe are poor, germany is extremely polycentric, france is more or less the only nation with an extensive high speed rail network. And their trains aren't much slower than the japanese ones.

>>17980458
>most Americans work within their own city.
Many people for 45+ monute long commutes from their homes. A big ass chunk take 1 hour or more in in traffic deadlock

>>17980458
>most Americans work within their own city.
casually leaving out that a single american "city" could fit like 5 japanese cities inside it because the american city is 90% highways and parking lots

>>17980458
> Japanese work culture is absolutely fucking toxic
Reddit meme. Japan has better working conditions than America

>>17980442 (OP)
>>17980451
Why are you ignoring the previous 500 years of European invention in favor of modern meme trains?

Japan is high IQ with a population of 100 million so they occasionally make a contribution to science, they were ahead with electronics in the 60s, 70s and 80s, but then lagged behind the west as computing became big and drew its attention while the Japanese economy stuttered.

All of this is due to autism. Electronics is more appealing than software because it is comprehensible by the human mind whereas a modern CPU and the clusterfuck of software and programming languages can't be fully grasped without mental shortcuts. Japan's centralization is also due to autism. The love of rules and following rules means Japanese people tolerate mild inconveniences for some idea of the greater good, it is why it is a high trust society but their "salaryman" culture is a nightmare.

It should be easy to see why Japan was ahead of Europe with bullet trains. In terms of population density, which favors rail travel, Japan isn't much different from England, Benelux and Germany so this doesn't really explain it. Rather Japan was fond of making these large investments, whereas in Europe it has to have a raw economic basis, there was public support for shows projects like this. You see it in China also with their massive infrastructure projects which look cool but have dubious utility. Some call it "collectivism", they imagine they are included in these projects by the state, maybe psychologically it gives them a sense of social acceptance and asians are more sensitive to fear of social alienation and humiliation since they lack the European "liberty gene".

In any case it is obvious from this and general knowledge that east asians are more collectivized/centralized/autistic. So of course they're going to want to push trains to their logical conclusion.

>>17981328
>occasionally make a contribution to science
The sheer cope and delusion you'd have to brew to this up.

>All of this is due to autism
>Japan's centralization is also due to autism.
The chud's refusal to hand out praise where it is due is most amusing.

>In any case it is obvious from this and general knowledge that east asians are more collectivized/centralized/autistic. So of course they're going to want to push trains to their logical conclusion.
Lmao you truly are worthless.

>>17981242
>I found a chart online so it must be true

>Japs invented trains with long noses
>Does this make you insecure euros? I bet it does! Euros insecure as fuck!
Retard. European trains are slightly different due to different use cases and requirements. Their general level of engineering and quality is quite comparable to japanese ones.

>>17981837
What European train was able to hit 220km/h before the 1964 Series 0 Shinkansen?

>>17981218
Los Angeles is not the norm in the US, even the bay area does not have the autism found in LA.

>>17981844
>anon says Euros have different needs
>Weeb chimes in to cope about speed
Trains move good in Europe, Japs use the sea because their cunt is small and most people live by the ocean

>>17981844
>1903
Making fast trains is not hard. Japans general passenger trains are faster because it makes sense for their use case (and not for the european ones.)
Also you are not japanese and I strongly doubt your nation operates trains even nearly as fast as european high speed rail.

>>17980560
France's TGV predates Ryanair's foundation by 3 years, so your argument has loose grounds at best.
Also, intercity night trains have been a thing in Europe since the days of steam-powered locomotives.

>>17981242
South Korea confirmed for being the embodiment of every single negative stereotype about Japan. Hell Joseon is real.

>>17981218
>Many people for 45+ [minute] long commutes from their homes.
No they don't

>>17982220
Oh and while we're at it, let's compare this to average commute times in Japan
>Around 1 hour and 30 minutes
Ouch!
I also compared both the US and Japan to Germany, and in Germany it was about the same as the US (25-30 minutes on average)

This is why Japan has bullet trains while Europe and the US don't, it's because Japanese work culture sucks and they regularly demand hour+ commutes while armchair urbanists sit on their fat asses debating public transport and spreading misinformation amongst themselves.
So this explains why Japan has bullet trains

>>17982233
>>17982220
B-but when wealthy people visit Japan they can use the fast bullet trains to get around the city!! Who cares if the average Jap is a poor wagie making $1200 a month yet having a cost of living approaching the average German one

>>17980442 (OP)
>Why did Japanese invent bullet trains and not Europeans?
Even Europeans can't invent every single thing ever, and Asians come in at a respectable second as far as racial quality goes, so it's natural they they would be the ones to invent whatever Europeans don't.

>>17982233
>This is why Japan has bullet trains while Europe and the US don't
Europe has had high-speed trains for decades. As for the US, desegregation put an end to any useful public transport.

>>17982233
>>17982287
>Japanese work culture sucks
Have you ever worked in Europe? You guys have the strangest copes.

>>17982453
>desegregation put an end to any useful public transport.
People still use public transport in many cities, but as a whole it was already being cut up and death spiraling long before desegregation.

>>17982454
Japan still has a higher rate of suicide than Europe and the USA you dumb weeb. Japanese work culture is trash

>>17982462
>Japan still has a higher rate of suicide than Europe and the USA you dumb weeb
It's not that much higher lol. US has a bit less, Euro states fluctuate with a majority having double digit rates.

>Japanese work culture is trash
So is the work culture in pretty much the majority of the west.

>>17982457
>it was already being cut up and death spiraling long before desegregation.
True, but post desegregation it became pointless to ever invest in it. Europe is starting to get to that point too with mass migration.

>>17982453
>>17982457
The US has trains like the Acela and Avelia Liberty as well as projects currently in the works like Brightline West. The demand for HSR in the US is much smaller than it is in Europe, but I think this has more to do with the differences in each regions commuting culture and geography

>>17980451
That's the logic of the morons on here, but they never accept it when it doesn't work in their favor. Same thing with IQ, crime statistics per capita, etc.

>>17980442 (OP)
But we once made something faster—the Concorde passenger jet.

>>17980458
>Salarymen commute over 100 km to work every single morning
That's actually pretty cool it means you can live 100 km away from work

is this the daily weeb thread?

>>17981844
what japanese train was able to hit 515km/h before the 1990 V150 TGV?
i can come up with arbitrary speed records as well davido-kun

>>17981242
lol Japs aren't allowed to leave work until their boss does.
They just sit in the office twiddling their thumbs, waiting for their boss to leave. They are not paid for this and it's not counting as working hours.

>>17981833
>>17983334
cope

>>17981328
>immediately, without fail, chooses to jump to his peoples defense instead of dogmatically accepting this as proof he is inferior
I don't care. You wouldn't give anyone else this much leg room to defend themselves when accused of being racially inferior. In fact, you'd expect them to just take it without argument.

>>17981242
having better working conditions than america isn't much of a compliment as it's made out to be

>>17980442 (OP)
europeans stopped being innovative after ww2

every other scientific/medical/tech contribution since then was made by americans, soviets, or japanese

>>17981993
gotta give the koreans more credit for being unapologetically more racist and chuddier than japan at least

look at how they dealt with johnny somali compared to how japs dealt with him

>>17980451
europeans used to be the superior race from the 13th century up to 1945

after that it's anglos and japanese, and now anglos are declining once again in favor of chinese and koreans

>>17983334
italian and spanish "work" hours are just hours-long siestas and wine breaks

>>17981328
>European "liberty gene
Whitoid thinks history is 1500-2001

>>17981993
>Whitoid doesn't want to work
Isn't this what led to both immigrants and outsourcing in your cunts, that you now endlessly whine about

>>17982448
Europeans can't invent children
>Median age 45
>Birth rate 1.4
>Age of woman at first birth 30
>Africa has more children than Europe has people

>>17982462
>higher rate of suicide
This is simply because in the East people don't believe in Dead Jew on a Stick. Suicide is a sin in cuckstianity, not so in Far East religion

>>17982448
East Asians are unironically in fourth place. I know you're mentally deficient, but you can google intellectual achievements and East Asia is lacking.

>>17985174
Of course we can invent fucking children

>>17980442 (OP)
Because bomb trains would be a little too "on the nos"

>>17983468
Talk to a Japanese person about their work culture, you retard. You have never done this. I have.

>>17983621


Jewish engineers like Jerome Lemelson worked for Sony and helped them develop camcorders and walkman audio players.
>>17981328
>>17980442 (OP)
You're a weeb who believes Japanese JQ statistics (Japanese didn't invent a single technology and copied it all from the UK during the Meiji restoration). Jerome H. Lemelson built stuff for Sony and the US gave Japan its rocket and nuclear program in the Cold war.

Japanese farmers are 10 IQ retards who know nothing and were treated as chattel by samurai for centuries.

a few outnumbered Portuguese destroyed a numerically superior Japanese force at the Fukuda bay battle in 1565 and embarrassed numerically superior Japanese at the Nossa Senhora da Graça incident in 1610. According to Japanese own accounts, the Japanese only managed to get the knowledge for musket making after a Japanese blacksmith in Tanegashima offered his own daughter Wakasa to a Portuguese man who showed him how.

Japanese also gave Japanese girls (Oranda yuki-san) to Dutch men in exchange for Dutch science (Rangaku) learning how to build airguns and balloons from the Dutch.

>>17987391


Ming Chinese defeated the Portuguese at the Tamão aka Tumen battle in 1521 and at the Sincouwaan aka Qiancao aka Shancaowan aka Veniaga battle in 1522 where a Portuguese ship and cannons were captured by the Chinese. The Chinese then reverse engineered the captured Portuguese breech loading cannon themselves. Macau was later rented out by local provincial Guangdong officials to the Portuguese in exchange for annual payments of silver taels, it wasn't taken in a battle and the Portuguese also administered Nagasaki in Japan and they didn't pay rent for that.


Chinese scientist Wu Chien-shiung helped build the atomic bombs in the Manhattan project.

Wu Chien-shiung separated uranium 235 and 238.

Chinese engineer Wong Tsu designed Boeing Model C in 1916, one of the first aircraft used by the US Navy.

Hsue-Chu Tsien also designed aircraft for the US and his cousin Qian Xuesen worked on the US missile program

Japan was hiring Germans like Ruchard Vogt and the British Sempill mission for aircraft designs


The Mongols massacred Yamato at the battle of Hakata Bay in 1271 only the Kamikaze storm saved Japan.

Chinese did sex tourism in Japan, Sun Yatsen had two Japanese teenage concubines Haru Asada and Kaoru Otsuki.

>>17980442 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnciunYwHg

>>17987397
>China was having to ape western tech to keep up just 200 years after their supposed mastery of black powder
Why do people study these plebs again

>>17987831
Retard, China developed the first gunpowder weapons in the 10th century. (Gunpowder was invented in 9th century China)

China invented the first gunpowder weapons like fire lances, rockets, bombs, handgonnes (handcannon) and cannons.

Europeans acquired the fire lance, rocket and handgonne only after China invented them.

Europeans developed the handgonne into a musket by adding a trigger.

>>17981328
>Why are you ignoring the previous 500 years of European invention in favor of modern meme trains?
Because those inventions are primitive as shit now and don't matter anymore, only the present matters and snowtroons nowadays are retarded faggots who can't breed and are on the way of becoming extinct

>>17981427
Japan doesn't actually contribute much to science relative to northern Europeans, 2 Japanese people are worth 1 Dane in this regard.

>>17983484
2nd post literally said Europeans are racially inferior, I didn't start the conversation

>>17985158
Did all our genes get scrambled in 2001? What are you saying? This is the liberty gene I am referring to, it is all true and backed up by fact just like this chart

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/10/27/rspb.2009.1650
>Culture–gene coevolution of individualism–collectivism and the serotonin transporter gene

China has the highest frequency of the Short version of the gene on Earth. In Europe, about half of the population has the Short version.

>>17987391
It is true, even I may be overinflating japanese technical achievements, though there are a few bright sparks like the blue LED guy Shuji Nakamura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd0oCwGhIhI

>>17987840
but all of modern science hinges on those innovations, someone post that chart of achievement showing where they originated, it is wall to wall white men and white people are still the majority contributor to the sciences