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Anonymous No.18064981 [Report] >>18065127
Mobile Gas Vans
How exactly did they accomplish this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2mdPKDTmW0&t=1130s
Anonymous No.18064994 [Report] >>18065015
They piped the exhaust to the back which was sealed and locked
Anonymous No.18065015 [Report] >>18065112
>>18064994
How does that work to do a genocide?

Honest question
Anonymous No.18065076 [Report] >>18065115
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2025/07/first-published-photographs-of-nazi.html
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/10/contemporary-german-documents-on.html
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/11/rebuttal-of-alvarez-on-gas-vans-why.html
Anonymous No.18065112 [Report]
>>18065015
>Come on local Jews, we're going on a trip to your new special Jewish housing
>Of course you need to go, the government has just made a ruling to forcefully deport you, we'll kill you if you don't go
>Now get into the back of this truck
>https://www.newhealthadvisor.org/Carbon-Monoxide-Suicide.html
>Dump the dead bodies in some ditch 20 miles away and go bad to repeat
Anonymous No.18065115 [Report] >>18065130 >>18065135
>>18065076
Soviet Gas Vans

In the mid-1930s, Isai Davidovich Berg – a Russian Jew and head of the economic department of the NKVD for the Moscow region – had the idea of using prisoner-transfer vans to kill inmates locked inside by piping the engine exhaust gases into the enclosed coachwork box. These vans were powered by a gasoline engine produced in the Soviet Union under a license from the Ford Company, so their exhaust gas was highly lethal. This invention was in fact built, and from 1936, these vans were used to murder prisoners during transit without them even suspecting it. (Grigorenko 1981, pp. 275f.; Monster: A Portrait of Stalin in Blood, Part 2: “Stalin’s Secret Police,” https://youtu.be/itPPRxy_AQ4, starting at 3 min, 21 sec.; Voslensky 1995, pp. 28f.). This fits well into the framework of the Soviet Union’s (and Russia’s) secret services’ long tradition of using poison to kill dissidents and anyone it considered an obstacle to their ambitions, as has been amply documented (Volodarsky 2009).

https://nukebook.org/instruments/tool/gas-vans/305/
Anonymous No.18065118 [Report] >>18065136
British Gas-Van Accusations

The first mention of mobile gas chambers in the context of World War II occurred in 1942. The British newspaper Daily Telegraph – which, back in World War I, spread the atrocity lie that Austrian forces had murdered 700,000 Serbians by gassing them (22 March 1916, p. 7) – resurrected the same atrocity lie once more, when announcing on 25 June 1942 (p. 5) that the Germans had murdered 700,000 Jews in “Travelling Gas Chambers” in Poland.

https://nukebook.org/instruments/tool/gas-vans/305/
Anonymous No.18065127 [Report] >>18065135 >>18065137
>>18064981 (OP)
This honestly is so absurd, it would take so long to kill a handful of people this way, and for them to do what, just sit and let it happen? or are they in there shaking and rocking the truck?
Anonymous No.18065130 [Report] >>18065136
>>18065115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPPRxy_AQ4&t=4s
Anonymous No.18065135 [Report]
>>18065115
I'm not denying Soviet gas vans, it's amusing you'll deny the far more well-documented German gas vans though while believing in the Soviet ones that have much less evidence for their existence.

>>18065127
It wouldn't take that long.
Anonymous No.18065136 [Report] >>18065149
>>18065130
>>18065118

Soviet Gas-Van Accusations
The Soviets – actual inventors of the homicidal gas van – leveled the same charge against Germany during their Krasnodar Show Trial, which was staged in July of 1943 against Soviet citizens accused of having collaborated with their German liberators. (See Bourtman 2008 for an assessment of this trial.) During the trial and in its portrayal in Soviet mass media, “Hitler’s murder vans” were a prominent topic, although the defendants were not accused of having partaken in their use. These vans were said to have killed using the exhaust gases produced by their diesel engines which supposedly “contained a high concentration of carbon monoxide,” “causing the rapid poisoning and death from asphyxiation of the prisoners.” The German word and concept of diesel engines evidently was meant to instill particularly anti-German horrors and disgust – except that it backfired, because diesel exhaust gas is notably unsuited for the claimed purpose, due to its low toxicity, contrary to the court’s and its experts’ mendacious claims.

This travesty of justice was repeated a few months later, when the Soviets staged a show trial in Kharkov mainly against captured German soldiers who were accused, among other things, of having operated these diesel-driven gas vans, although the Soviets never claimed that Jews were the victims.

No material traces of such a gas van were ever presented. On some occasions, mis-captioned photos showing irrelevant vehicles were at times erroneously or mendaciously presented as evidence for their existence. (See the entry on the Ostrowski Company for more details.)

https://nukebook.org/instruments/tool/gas-vans/305/
Anonymous No.18065137 [Report] >>18065147
>>18065127
>This well documented thing never happened because I, an anonymous retard on 4chan, think it sounds stupid
Thank you anon, very cool
Anonymous No.18065147 [Report] >>18065151
>>18065137
>well documented thing
Anonymous No.18065149 [Report] >>18065259
>>18065136
>muh diesel
>krasnodar
>muh jewish bolsheviks projecting about gas vans
this was all pre-debunked by the HC articles I posted
Anonymous No.18065151 [Report] >>18065161
>>18065147
Yes
Anonymous No.18065161 [Report] >>18065176
>>18065151
Can you show me a death certificate that says "Killed in mobile gas death van" or something similar?
Anonymous No.18065162 [Report] >>18065168
There is a new book with 15 never before seen photos of a real-life gas van operating in the USSR for mass murder.

https://tiergartenstrasse4.org/#book
Anonymous No.18065168 [Report] >>18065608
>>18065162
jfc are jews really starting threads to discuss shit to shill books?
the holocaust is big buisness, but this is a new low
Anonymous No.18065176 [Report] >>18065233
>>18065161
Why would they write a death certificate for someone they killed in secret?
What a silly question
Anonymous No.18065233 [Report] >>18065251
>>18065176
these germans seem bipolar.
Anonymous No.18065251 [Report] >>18065267
>>18065233
And how many of those certificates have the cause of death on them? Do you not understand the difference between a location and a vehicle?
What are you, an NPC incapable of thought? How about you think for 5 seconds before making stupid posts
Anonymous No.18065259 [Report]
>>18065149
Gas Vans at the Nuremberg Trials
Gas-van claims played only a minor role during the International Military Tribunal after the war. Whenever they were mentioned, these claims were based on allegations made by the Soviet prosecutors, who used the same kind of “evidence” to prove their claim as had been presented during the Krasnodar and Kharkov show trials. Attempts by the defense to have this propaganda material rejected as impermissible was denied by the court, since the IMT’s statute clearly stated that any records and findings of any court of the Allied nations, including the Soviet Union, were considered admissible, self-evident and true. This way, the claims made during Stalinist travesties of justice became legally binding “truths” for all Allied and (later) German courts.

Witness testimonies by German officials regarding these vans are characterized either by their lack of any concrete knowledge about them, if their existence was admitted, or by an outright denial that such devices ever existed. The IMT protocols mention at least 63 affidavits affirming that no such vans ever existed in German units. None of these affidavits submitted to the IMT seem to have survived.

Documents produced in preparation of the IMT aiming at substantiating gas-van claims – not all of which were submitted as evidence – exhibit clear hallmarks of crude manipulations and forgeries.

(For more details, see the entries on Gaubschat Company (Just Document); Becker, August; Turner, Harald.)

https://nukebook.org/instruments/tool/gas-vans/305/
Anonymous No.18065267 [Report] >>18065277
>>18065251
all of them do
Anonymous No.18065277 [Report] >>18065287
>>18065267
What's your proof for that, have you looked at them all?
Anonymous No.18065287 [Report] >>18065293
>>18065277
yes
Anonymous No.18065293 [Report] >>18065324
>>18065287
let us see it then
Anonymous No.18065319 [Report] >>18065327 >>18065327
Gas Vans in West-German Trials

While East-German, communist show trials – where gas-van accusations played a role – faithfully followed in Stalinist propagandist footsteps, West-German trials also used the results of Allied post-war trials as a starting point and dogmatic basis for their proceedings. None of the German trials ever questioned whether gas vans really existed in the first place. None of the usual requirements for a murder trial was ever requested – neither by the prosecution, nor by the judges, nor by the defense: namely, traces of the murder weapon or of the murder victims.

The Soviet show-trial claims, puffed up by numerous “witness” claims along the same line, and hence of very dubious provenance, were simply taken as historical dogma. While several defendants still insisted in earlier trials that they had no knowledge of gas vans, the same defendants “remembered” increasingly more about them the more often they were dragged into court over the years, either as defendants or as witnesses. Thus, by way of constant bombardment with “self-evident” propaganda “facts,” false memories were created even among the defendants
Anonymous No.18065324 [Report] >>18065330
>>18065293
theyre all digitized you can search for them yourself, this one lists "lungentuberkulose" (pulmonary tuberculosis)

Heres a direct download to a pdf or feel free to google any other digitized source. https://dokumen.pub/sterbebcher-von-auschwitz-band-2-3-namensverzeichnis-a-z-annex-reprint-2012nbsped-9783110974096-9783598112751.html
Anonymous No.18065327 [Report]
>>18065319
>>18065319
https://nukebook.org/instruments/tool/gas-vans/305/

Gas Vans and the Einsatzgruppen

Gas vans are said to have been developed mainly to aid the Einsatzgruppen in Russia mass-murdering Jews behind the German-Russian front line. The documentation about the activities of the Einsatzgruppen is vast, but among the thousands of documents, not a single one mentions the use of gas vans for any murderous activities. Not even the Soviet show trials mentioned them in the context of mass-murdering Jews.

Laqueur and Baumel-Schwartz (2001, p. 231) claim that as many as 350,000 Jews were killed in vans by the Einsatzgruppen; this is the highest mainstream estimate.
Anonymous No.18065330 [Report] >>18065333
>>18065324
How did this guy die?
Anonymous No.18065333 [Report] >>18065336
>>18065330
if you read my post and the document both tell you.
Anonymous No.18065336 [Report] >>18065339
>>18065333
its by TB?

How can that be true?
Anonymous No.18065339 [Report] >>18065350
>>18065336
TB is pretty lethal, its to this day the leading cause of death by infectious disease
Anonymous No.18065350 [Report] >>18065351 >>18065378
>>18065339
Where the fuck is this supposed Holocaust?

This is 4chan I was hoping in this free speech zone someone would easily post all the most gory pictures of gassed jews.
Anonymous No.18065351 [Report]
>>18065350
sadly no such pictures or evidence of gassed jews exists.
Anonymous No.18065378 [Report]
>>18065350
Anonymous No.18065608 [Report]
>>18065168
Naw, I just wanted to post the Dead Rising speedrun that is less than 1% of the Holocaust to depict how absurd it all is.