Thread 18067844

>frequently get an overwhelming feeling that god exists
What do? Abrahamic religions are retarded. I dont even know where to start

Just go deist like smart people do when they saw the Abrahamic retardation.

>>18067853
How

>>18067844 (OP)
Become a Sikh

>>18067869
Just believe god exists. That's it.

>>18067844 (OP)
Something had to have created us and to us that something could effectively be termed "god". Take that to it's logical conclusion and there must be some ultimate creator or "God". I don't think it's some prideful old faggot in the clouds, but the Abrahamists got something right: Jesus is a useful tool. As he said, he said two things that you actually need to pay attention to: love your neighbor as yourself (be kind) and love God above all. More people doing that in earnest leads to a harmonious society. So personally, I would recommend Christianity but all that shit about hell and vengeance and the rest of that bullshit, I just ignore it. You don't have to join a church but if you do it would be a valuable opportunity to cultivate a community its around you, which is beneficial for humans.

>>18067844 (OP)
God is a retarded tranny who demonstrates that he's real every day by raping my mind and abusing, harassing, threatening, terrorzing etc me for anything I think through his retarded tranny puppets who he does everything he can to make sure I know are 100% controlled by him along with everything else in this retarded fake reality that I'm forced to act as the sole frame of reference for and only persistently real person in so that God can abuse and dominate me through everyone else in it because he's a retarded sadistic tranny

>>18067946
It sounds like you have intrusive thoughts, anon. Would you care to talk about them?

>>18067961
Other people making direct explicit reference to my thoughts and abusing me for them isn't "intrusive thoughts" it's God raping my mind and controlling other people, the persistence of the rape of my mind and the abuse makes it clear that there isn't a meaningful difference between God and the people he abuses me through (he is always abusing me through them, always raping my mind, everything they say is to harass, threaten, abuse, and terrorize me)

>>18067974
Could it maybe be synchronicities? You are hurt, I understand that. And you want to lash out at the cause of that, but it is not in front of you and definitionally cannot be. So of course, you would be frustrated, like duh right? What you are looking for is a sense of control.

Do not attribute malice where there is none, anon. I know it is scary, believe me. Personally I would view it as an opportunity for self-reflection.

>>18067974
You won't listen but I will try.
1. They don't even realize they're doing it.
2. They are still independent people - they just have an unconscious mind like everybody else that makes them pliable in certain ways.
3. You are no different. If you met someone like you, they would be convinced you're just a puppet for their version of an abusive god.
4. You are the common element here. The shape of your mind is why this is happening. This means there is hope.

Drop the hostility. Stop looking for your persecution. Stop feeding this. If that fails, get antipsychotics (despite being utter shit they actually help with this particular problem).

t. schizo

>>18067844 (OP)
That is the collective society superego banging down the walls of your psyche.

Something more complex made us, but why the term 'God'? Why not 'mechanism', 'process', 'Gods', 'supernovae' 'quantum 10D leptons'? Why is there a meaning of life, not multiple meanings? Why not multiple ultimate meanings?

It's no longer the 17th century where church dogma strangles us, so many reference points for the divine exist for you to think about.

>>18067995
>Something more complex made us, but why the term 'God'? Why not 'mechanism', 'process', 'Gods', 'supernovae' 'quantum 10D leptons'? Why is there a meaning of life, not multiple meanings? Why not multiple ultimate meanings?
Anyway, the answer to this question is no one knows. Anyone who claims to know will narrow the definition and end up with a thicker conception of what is ultimately responsible for "something and not nothing". These people are also just liars who lie to themselves also. We won't ever know so long as we remain 3D entities to begin with. It's really not worth worrying about.

>>18067869
Take enough psychedelics to acheive ego death and commune with God. That' the easy way. The classic way is fasting, self-flagellation, or otherwise making your brain think your body is close to death. That's why you see so many religious ceremonies where they pilgrimage barefoot over jagged rock, or march in the streets whipping themselves bloody. It's to work into a trancelike state where your body is sending the brain signals to prepare for death.

I could commune with God every night when I almost died after acute liver failure. It was interesting. He's basically the administrator of the oneness of the universe expressed through pure love.

I wish I was still that close with God, but without the dying part. Probably why most people who come back from a near death experience describe it as being at total peace.

>>18067844 (OP)
Remove pride from the equation and think on why you dislike religion. Did you have a bad experience in childhood? Was there some inciting event, some personal instance, if so was that event organic to the faith? It might have been the case that you found it too hard to believe. You have been programmed from birth by evil people to hate Christ and reject His passion, this is likely alien to not only your culture but also to your very being, and this difference from your natural state is why you feel anxiety.

>>18068048
This is a great way to make yourself completely insane. Taking drugs leaves you defenseless to things you cannot possibly conceive of and should know well enough to fear.

>>18068734
Holy shit Nancy Reagan, quit being such a retarded pussy.

>>18068816
I have done plenty of drugs in my time, you are likely young as this is a very stereotypical attitude to have as an adolescent, it is certainly the one I had. To put it bluntly you have no idea the kind of danger you are in every time you take psychedelics/stimulants/hallucinogens, addiction and/or death is the least of your worries.

>>18068844
I was mainly joking at your pearl clutching. Psychedelics aren't for everyone, or even most people, but you're way overstating the dangers.

The type of person who has no experience and wants to take them in order to see God, shouldn't. But I'd say that my closeness and ability to commune with God was similar to a psychedelic experience. Even though I don't think me just doing DMT or blasting off into a K hole or reaching the third plateau off DXM would necessarily replicate that, but it was somewhat similar to a psychedelic experience.

>>18068852
Your noetic eye was dimmed when you entered mortal flesh, that's sorta the whole deal with being here and it was an intentional choice. If you were taking drugs and talking to an entity it may not have been God, I won't say for sure because I do not know you or your experiences, but you are opening a door to beings older than time who are very good at deception and far superior to humans in intelligence.

>>18068844
>addiction and/or death is the least of your worries.
What, ridiculous /x/ horseshit of interdimensional vampire demons?

It's like this terrible arrogance applied to that lovecraftian angle of eldritch higher levels of consciousness beings. Where apparently these beings exist and they are hyper interested in fucking around with John Q Nonymous tripping balls for LOOOOOSH.

Beings older than time and able to reach out through time and space and interact with mortals and they use us like potatos OooOOOOooooOOOooooOOOOO

>>18068862
I mean, you don't really talk about anything. Its just his presence and love. Guides your thoughts to reach your own conclusions, never suggesting or commanding you. Have you even done it, or am I just talking to an /x/ LARPer?

>>18068870
>John Q Nonymous tripping balls

You fail to understand, no one's existence is random, you were part of the plan from the very beginning and you will exist forever. Had you been close to God you probably would already know this.

>>18068875
I've done a lot, and I can tell you that there is no salvation in altering your mind.

>>18068897
Ah, so the latter. And one who hasn't done drugs and has an opinion of them. Alright then.

>>18068908
I don't know what possible reason there is for me to lie about this. It's not exactly like I'm proud of taking ridiculous dosages of Diphenhydramine in the woods, or experimenting with 2-CB and fluorinated amphetamines. Hell I am especially not proud of buying copious amounts of inhalers and delsym from CVS, shit lead me down an evil path.

>>18068870
You claim to talk to God yet the idea that drugs are means by which you commune with preternatural forces is somehow /x/ schizophrenia.

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>>18068897
I'm this anon >>18067995
I'd like to say having done psychedelics and believing I communed with demons at the time, they are culturally conditioned artifacts of your brain malfunctioning. Psychs will connect different parts of your brain to let you experience reality in a novel way, so making it religious is the usual way of coping with that, because of it's historically contingent nature. They aren't real but, sure they will let a person experience themselves, and their reality, if they need to (a depressed person who has not met many parts of themselves would likely benefit)

>>18068922
All I said was that psychedelics can give you an ego death experience, not dissimilar to some near death experiences and communing with the nature of God. You're the one talking about interdimensional old gods using them as a psychic portal to mislead you from salvation . It just comes off like online role playing.

>>18068941
Okay, I didn't know I was talking with two different individuals. I don't disagree with anything you said. Just as I don't necessarily know if I communed with God or that my body was under such stress that it activated ancient hardwired neural pathways associated with accessing the "God gene," (I believe it's referred to as something else these days).

>>18068943
>All I said was that psychedelics can give you an ego death experience

Ego death is far better to induce naturally, it will likely come to you naturally anyway.

>>18068943
>>18068950
Taking drugs does open up your mind to horrific forces and I think anyone who has been under the influence knows that.

>>18067844 (OP)
Are you European? May I suggest you study European theologists, poets and philosophers instead of crude semitic approximations of them?
>>18067853
Deism is like stoicism or libertarianism, it's a temporary immune system response to degeneracy, not really a functional long term worldview.

>>18067844 (OP)
What do? You accept that your experience is subjective and your feelings do not necessarily relate to reality. Stick to what you can prove.

>>18067844 (OP)
I'm not Catholic but I would recommend to start there. Resource-wise it's tiers above all religions and will give you some understanding of what's going on. Don't fall into the trap of confusing theology for philosophy though, you'll spend 10 years deciphering scholastic theory only to find out it doesn't actually help you.

>>18069513
You arrive to truth by convergence of multiple sources - logic, intuition, senses, testimonies... not by insisting that a limited set of methodologies circumscribes reality. There are no methods for proving God.

>>18067844 (OP)
I recommend you kill yourself. Every day you live you're adding more sins to your account which will make your eternity in Hell that much worse. Therefore, the best NPV move you can make is to end the sinfest as soon as possible.

>>18069523
>You arrive to truth by convergence of multiple sources - logic, intuition, senses, testimonies... not by insisting that a limited set of methodologies circumscribes reality.
I just got a really overwhelming feeling that you are a flaming cock munching faggot. Did that change anything about the real you?

>>18069526
>asks
>seeking to add 3rd party testimony to his intuition
Atta boy.

>>18067844 (OP)
Repent and believe in Christ, or else perish

>>18069530
It seems you have taken my ridicule at face value on purpose to make some sort of point.

>>18069537
I thought the point was clear. You switched from "just obey the methods" to the convergence of multiple sources, just as I recommended. And of course you did - answering OP with "wait till they make a method for it" is obviously insufficient.

>>18067844 (OP)
TULIP.

>>18067844 (OP)
I am grass