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Anonymous No.18084303 [Report] >>18084371 >>18084391 >>18085381 >>18086120 >>18086236
Christianity is from Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef. This Jew observed Hanukkah (John 10:22-23) and came only for Jews (Matthew 15:22-28). He forbid preaching to goyim (Matthew 10:5-6). He told a goya who gave him water that her religion was bullshit and that "salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22).

All his talmidim were Jewish, including Rabbi Shaul haTarsi. He stressed HaShem hasn't forgotten (Romans 11:1) his chosen people (Deuteronomy 7:6). He adds that Jews come first and the goyim after (Romans 1:16, 3:1-2). Also, he was a proud Parush (Philippians 3:5). Contrary to what apostate heretics believe, Yeshua loved them (Matthew 23). He only criticized some for teaching traditions as mitzvot while omitting actual mitzvot. Like in Matthew 15:1-20. Read this passage whole for once.

Shaul said the covenant is eternal and that Mashiah will come from Israel, not from the goyim (Romans 9:3-5). The covenant gives Israel the land (Genesis 17:7-8, Jeremiah 7:7) from the Nile to the Euphrates (Genesis 15:18). Arabs and other Semitic people are not included (Genesis 50:24). Jeremiah 31:31-33 does predict a new covenant... with Jews. Not goyim. Yeshua adds he didn't come to abolish the law (Matthew 5:17). He came to fulfill... prophecies. "Fulfilling the law" is an apostate's way of saying abolishing without owning it.

Goyim are welcome in the new covenant (they were in the old too, see the Book of Ruth). But HaShem wants them to be watchmen for Israel (Ezekiel 33:7). He will judge them for how they treated Jews (Genesis 12:1-3, Joel 3:1-2). A good talmid of Yeshua must:
1. Pray for peace in Jerusalem (Psalms 122:6-7);
2. Make the Jews jealous, not afraid or angry (Romans 11:11);
3. Comfort Jews (Joshua 40:1-2);
4. Help Jews out with money (Romans 15:26-27).

Bonus:
1. Revelations 12 describes Satan attacking Israel. It reuses the symbols from Yosef's dream (Genesis 37:9).
2. Ezekiel 37 describes the rebirth of Israel as a nation after the Holocaust.
Anonymous No.18084371 [Report] >>18085408
>>18084303 (OP)
Enjoy Hell.
Anonymous No.18084391 [Report] >>18084625 >>18085634
>>18084303 (OP)
So? Jews are likely the most talented people on Earth. Who else could give a messiah to the Gentiles, a German?
Anonymous No.18084625 [Report]
>>18084391
>Jews are likely the most talented people on Earth
At writing themselves as the protagonists of the cosmos, sure.
Anonymous No.18085381 [Report] >>18085408
>>18084303 (OP)
Those who claim to be Jews today have no connection to the ancient Israelites though.
Anonymous No.18085408 [Report] >>18085469 >>18085629
>>18084371
surely you could come up with an argument or two
>>18085381
i've read this argument a dozen times now. who has connection to ancient israelites then that is alive today? if it isn't the group that explicitly practices judaism, then it can't be anyone else unless they've gone extinct, which the bible doesn't account for afaik
Anonymous No.18085469 [Report] >>18085500
>>18085408
>who has connection to ancient israelites then that is alive today?
Christianity obviously. They are called the Israel of God in Galatians 6:16. And the rest of the New Testament concurs with that.
Anonymous No.18085500 [Report] >>18085522 >>18085568
>>18085469
so christians are the true jews/israelites?
Anonymous No.18085522 [Report]
>>18085500
Well, according to what the Bible says, they always were.

"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,"
(2 Timothy 1:9)

"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed."
(Acts 13:48)

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy."
(1 Peter 2:9-10) [this passage is quoting Exodus 19:6 and Hosea 2:23]

"A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this."
(Psalm 22:30-31)

So yes, these are the people who God had foreknowledge of from the beginning. Christians are His one true people. The Bible predicts all of this.

With regards to the ancient Jews who chose to reject Christ, they will be cast into outer darkness. See the following:

"And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
(Matthew 8:11-12)

"For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people."
(Acts 3:22-23)

That's what the Bible says. Anyone who says otherwise is going against scripture.
Anonymous No.18085568 [Report]
>>18085500
Of course. Abos in Australia and Amerindians in Central America transition to identify as the people who invented usury in the Levant once they start obeying a genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel jew.
Anonymous No.18085629 [Report]
>>18085408
>surely you could come up with an argument or two
I could, but you don't deserve that, rodent.
Anonymous No.18085634 [Report]
>>18084391
Suck at sports tho
Anonymous No.18085708 [Report] >>18085719
>jacob, later renamed israel, in our first narrative encounter scams his brother out of his inheritance for a bowl of pottage
>entire old testament is just jews being trying to god

Of course it's jewish. The entire premise of the new testament is also saying "you don't have to be jewish to be saved. Come to me." That's it, just make the effort. The thrust of the new testament is that genuine belief in God, attempts to be a better person even if they don't succeed, repentance and joining the body of the church are what you need.

Side note, ask an orthodox priest why they care about the filioque since it's just a translation error. Or why God hates the elephants in psalm 151. It's great fun.
Anonymous No.18085719 [Report] >>18086100
>>18085708
>The thrust of the new testament is that genuine belief in God, attempts to be a better person even if they don't succeed, repentance and joining the body of the church are what you need.
You are going to thrash around in mindblowing agony as you are consumed by Hellfire. The best part? It will never end. Enjoy.
Anonymous No.18086100 [Report] >>18086366
>>18085719
Well, if universal reconciliation isn't a thing, I'll be in good company.
Anonymous No.18086120 [Report]
>>18084303 (OP)
>2. Make the Jews jealous, not afraid or angry (Romans 11:11);
>3. Comfort Jews (Joshua 40:1-2);
>4. Help Jews out with money (Romans 15:26-27).

If they are in Christ, have accepted the new covenant. Those outside of Christ are cut off, and may their branch wither and die like the fig tree which produced no good fruit.
Anonymous No.18086236 [Report]
>>18084303 (OP)
>Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef
you mean ben Pantera, right?
Anonymous No.18086366 [Report] >>18086395
>>18086100
>I have no arguments so let me curse you with hell!
Damn, such wise rhetoric!
Anonymous No.18086368 [Report]
Anonymous No.18086395 [Report]
>>18086366
I'm not cursing anyone. If the path really is that narrow, with no mechanism for others to gain salvation even after the end, there will be plenty of people there with me. Why would I need to argue?