Thread 18129668

True.

christbros.. not like this..

Where did he say this?

>>18129668 (OP)
>Sparta
lmao

>>18129668 (OP)
Spartans are defeated

>>18130238
>>18130240
Spartans are so defeated that they turned their town into a tourist trap Disneyland 2000 years before Disney was born.

My friend my friend take tour of Leonidas tomb, very good price, just 20 Drachma for you my friend. My cousin, also tourguide, has horse and cart, he take you Thermopylae yes, I get you good deal?

>>18130251

Greeks ... Not like this

>>18129668 (OP)
Christkeks..

>>18131037
15. 15 drachma for you my friend. Is very good price!

>>18129668 (OP)
Christians..

>>18129668 (OP)
How wonderful that the Europeans eventually reverted back to the religion of their ancestor Japheth(Jupiter) and his two brothers on the mountain Ararat(Olympus.)

(The Spartan descent into heathenry was even more recent: https://archive.is/CHMOW )

The second part, "For we are also his offspring," is found in the works of two Stoic philosophers: Aratus of Soli in Cilicia, who wrote the poem Phaenomena around 277 BCE, and Cleanthes, who composed a hymn to Zeus.

Euros had a tradition their faith started out a ancestor worship. The ultimate thing you can do as a pagan is upgrading to worshipping Jupiter's God.

Acts 17:28-30
King James Version
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

>>18130251
>My friend my friend take tour of Leonidas tomb, very good price, just 20 Drachma for you my friend. My cousin, also tourguide, has horse and cart, he take you Thermopylae yes, I get you good deal?
Its even worse than that. Pausanias, a second century CE Greek travel writer, talks about having visited the shrine of Artemis Orthia in Sparta where he saw a supposedly ancient ritual purported to be from the time of Lycurgus where boys would be flogged in front of the image of the goddess. It was said to be part of the boys' training to improve their discipline and mental fortitude to pain, yet Pausanias said it was little more than a sick bit of bloody tourism. He himself saw boys flogged to death to thrill the Roman tourists.

There is no record of this "ancient ritual" having existed before the Roman period.

>>18131037
Spartans didn't believe they were Greeks, they believed they were "Dorians". Helot slaves were Greeks.

>>18129668 (OP)
Its time to come home, White men and women.

>>18132541
larp

>>18132673
>magic flying jew died for my sins or something
larp

>>18132528
Anon...

>>18132685
>one being a larp makes the other not a larp
both larps

>>18132701
Which is the healthier larp?

>>18132709
>Which poison is healthier?

>>18132716
Indo-European paganism is hardly poison. Religion is just a pacifier for the lower classes. They don't get magically smarter without it. The clue is when they never break free from religion on their own. So if they're going to believe in something superstitious regardless, you make it about their cultural heritage and ancestors to support patriotism and nationalism in order to make a stronger country.

>>18132541
right is canonically more powerful btw.

>>18129668 (OP)
breeding with the enemy is based though
after you have vanquished them of course
otherwise it's cucked

>>18132727
i still won't believe in paganism but at least it looks cooler
what do they even do nowadays if their traditions weren't continually transmitted and practiced?

>>18132741
they larp like the 'jews' do

>>18132744
>'jews'
knowing this board i genuinely can't tell if this is referring to modern jews or christians

>>18132741
Most of them try to reconstruct some practices but let's be honest. They're not academic about that stuff usually.
I think pagans have a good idea by offering communities like churches. You can't really argue against such a thing even if you're secular. Communities are so important, so if we're going to have them, let's not center them around jew worship.

>>18132727
>Religion is just a pacifier for the lower classes
>t. doesnt read history.
Read some Cicero or Plato or any history like of Alexander, and they obviously believed in the divine in the private sense as well as in the public.
Its not breaking free from or embracing religion, its about the greater universal conception of how things works which tends to be a bit more syncretic and fluid rather than simply meaningless tools. THat goes for paganism or religons of the book. Monotheisms tend to be more robust though due to the flighty contractualisms of pagan belief as compared to the universal principles of monism.

>>18132755
I'm referring to talmudists specifically
Kariates and Samaritans fall in a different category

>>18132761
>talmudists
?

>>18132766
those who follow the accursed talmud

>>18132759
do they actually believe in this stuff though? like in private, do they particularly think Odin exists as a specific spiritual entity? Do they think Ragnarök is going to happen?

>>18132767
What's wrong with the talmud?

>>18132760
I could never bring myself to be religious. To me, "religion" is synonymous with lies and unsupported assertions. Spiritual and philosophical things are another matter entirely. If someone meditates, I don't consider it to be religious, but they can partake in spiritual activities for religious reasons. Everyone should have spiritual experiences and contemplate their life and existence. I also believe everyone should experience altered states of consciousness.

That is the stuff religion was built on but it got turned into lies and dogma. Religion is a very schizophrenic and autistic thing which kills spirituality.

>>18132770
a pile of swine manure is more worth than all the talmuds ever printed
at least swine manure is useful for fertilizing
the talmud is absolute garbage and the worst book written in history. spawned from the devil's arse

>>18132768
Why not? Do you question whether Christians believe in Jesus or if Muslims believe Mohammed was a prophet of God?

>>18132770
it's too based for its own good.
>>18132768
going off this, I think a revivl religion would need to be more contemplitative and focused on universals in our post platonic world and worldview. In fact, What religio-nationalists should basicly have a white talmud. With thier equivelent of the Godhead making THEM the choosen people and prescribing them to jew out other people for the benifit for thier own. Only then could a true Genuine nationalist-religion can be made for the people of the milk (unironically).

>>18132774
What is so bad about it?

>>18132773
>I could never bring myself to be religious
I was never particularly religious, but I think more ruminative texts like st. Augustine's Confessions opened my eyes to some of the deeper impulses the human mind has towards deeper questions and truths that lead towards religion. I could never hold on to the more particularly ritualistic or literalistic elements of it, but I could see how they could develop as a part of vindication, especially among the more cognitively... simple.

>>18132783
read it yourself if you're interested
I will not post that demonic shit here or anywhere else for that matter

>>18132790
Translation: I've never read a single word but the heckin ZASED right wing death squads on 4chan dot org said its bad!

>>18132775
>Do you question whether Christians believe in Jesus or if Muslims believe Mohammed
yes I do, and you can usually tell when someone does or not. I think its a bit more easy for it to happen with universalist gods since it can be a fundamental cornerstone of their reality. while with more particular gods it becomes a bit harder in modern times because its not the god of "everything" but its the "king" of one group of beings, or the patron of a particular finite thing or an archetype. So its a lot harder to take as a fundament of belief.

>>18132787
You like reading and contemplation? Wait till you experience satori.

>>18132806
More into general philosophy, Zen is interesting, but I do find some of its premises a bit reaching. But that is true about a lot of the bases of Buddhism. Not to detract from its particular insights ofc.

>>18129668 (OP)
Christcucksisters.. we're slaves to the jews..

>>18132825
Meditation is something to do for the experience without preconceived notions and expectations. Clarity can come to anyone at any time. One day I sat for a moment and I became quiet. I wasn't even trying to meditate. I just fell into that state of mind with my eyes open. Everything became still and there were no thoughts. In that moment my mind dried up and sobriety like no other came over me. Then realization hit me and countless delusions just fell away like a curse had been dispelled.

I've never been the same since.

All neopagan LARPers are either jewish or Indian.

>>18129668 (OP)
Wignats... OUR RESPONSE?

>>18132541
A God so based that Jupiter worshipped Him back when he was Japheth and Odin had to bootleg the crucifixion to appear half as awesome.

Come home to a God so exalted the other gods worship Him.

Psalm 97:7
Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.

1 Chronicles 16:26
For all the gods of the people are idols: but the Lord made the heavens.

Philippians 2:9-11

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

>>18132770
It's heavily racist and has stuff with kids (NOT PRESENT IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT this weird fanfic is based on, they'll have stuff like "this twenty-looking married woman with a child and her own house was actually FIVE." Mind you, this is a real example. And the guy they falsely accuse, David, was such an ultimate bro that Aragorn from Lord of the Rings is indirectly based on him**.)

** Aragorn bootlegs from Arthur who's based on Jesus Who is the prophetic Son of David. We're living in pop-culture times and Aragorn is very sadly the David-based character people are most likely to know. The real David did stuff like killing enemies Patton couldn't defeat, adopting war orphans, having a soft spot for animals to the extent of attacking predators who went after his pets, rescuing battered women, freeing slaves and generally being more likeable than Goku.

>>18132541
i love how this caption conflates all Europeans with White people as if all people from Europe are White. on top of that all of these different ethnicities would have slaughtered eachother and stuck their heads on poles.

>>18132727
Indo-Europeanism paganism created matriarchal gynocratic civilizations that were destroyed by monotheists. if you want Europe to be pagan then you want them to be weak. a pagan Europe would not look very different to what we have right now.

>>18132863
Quick! Someone call this anon a jew!

>>18132773
do you believe that atheism is not synonymous with lies and unsupported assertions?

>>18132934
It's widely agreed upon that the original Indo-Europeans were patriarchal and patrilocal. If their descendants fell away from those practices then this is just an argument for RETVRN TO TRADITION™. Any sincere pagans should seek to reconstruct the practices of their ancestors.

The Bible actually has some matriarchal shit that goes right over everyone's heads. It's an aspect of really old Semitic culture so Westerners and non-academics usually fail to pick up on it because the ideas are so foreign.

Examples of matrilocal/matrilineal indications:
Genesis 2:24: The verse states, "a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife". This is often interpreted as a matrilocal custom where the couple lives with the wife's family, which goes against the standard patrilocal norm of the ancient Near East.
Rebekah's marriage: In Genesis 24:28, Rebekah does not first tell her father's household about Isaac's proposal but her mother's, suggesting her mother's house had some initial authority over her marriage arrangements.

>>18132794
yeah fuck off disingenuous kike

>>18132938
You mean like magical invisible people and the ability to turn wine into blood, but only in completely immeasurable ways?

>>18132826
you're getting desperate chaim
it is crucial that you realize this

>>18133122
Meanwhile, you christcuck boomer parents will still refer to jews as the chosen ones until the day they die.

>>18132981
Tranny melty :)

>>18133145
oh no, it's a shitjeet
SAAAAAAARRRRRRR do not redeem cow dung and urine

>>18133149
speaking of trannies, your shitmud is the reason they exist
dumb kike

>>18133153
Whatever helps you cope with the fact that your parents bow to the jew and would love a chance to go to the jewish holy land and kiss the rocks of the old jewish temple.

>>18133163
>the rocks of the old jewish temple
are you talking about the stable wall of Fort Antonina?
dumb jeet, you're absolutely worthless and your 'culcha' boils down to eating shit and drinking piss
all I can do is call you a filthy degenerate benchod

>>18132768
I do, but I tend to stay away from groups because they tend to be faggy or vitriolic. Many I have seen are in a perpetual "fuck you mom and dad" mentality.

>>18133171
No, that is just another thing you are quite obviously wrong about since your entire shtick isn't about truth seeking, but just seething at your own infinite ignorance.

>>18133189
>kvetching
>no knowledge of history
talmudic jewdaism is one giant larp
you're out of your depth jeetstain

>>18133194
>doesn't know the difference between east and west
You're retarded, adhominemanon.

>>18133199
>doesn't know his own dysgenic tribe's history
oy gevalt Titus and Hadrian totally left a wall standing trust me goyim

>>18133207
Doesn't really matter when your parents will still give your inheritance to the chosen ones just for the opportunity to kiss their rubble and help build jerusalem like the magical jewish carpenter did in the book.

>>18129668 (OP)
Yeah, thank god we defeated queer Greeks and made them our slaves.
Gentile 0 - Roman 1

>>18133261
>backpedals
>uhhhhh it doesn't matter
>lies some more
you really are a good goylem Ramshit
I hope (they) pay you well. fucking piece of shit sister fucker

>>18133265
I didn't backpedal at all, you backpedaled by going from calling me a jeet to a member of the tribe and back again. I reinforced my original point, actual history doesn't matter at all to religious people, your parents will still give away your inheritance for an attaboy from some chosen one in their holy homeland.

>>18133261
why are you speaking like a Judean?
I heard this sentence almost word-to-word from a Judean that wore his big fur hat once.

>>18133270
>your parents
you don't know me or my parents dumb fuck
go eat shit

>>18133270
stop speaking like a Judean then, Caelestis did not gave only Judeans his right to govern, Judeans rebelled against divine right and Romans stole their cult from them and cast them into darkness.
Whole Jewish rituals are just them seething that gods have left them to demise.

>>18133278
Why are you worshiping a Judean and letting your parents and their peers give all their money to Judea because Judean=Godlike according to some silly book drafted by the roman government as it was dying?

>>18133279
If your parents weren't so concerned with making sure the jewish holy land is so well funded, they wouldn't have to eat so much shit.

>>18133280
Yet your tax money is still funding them while your fellow churchgoers spend their lifesaving to goy their hardest for the most impressive jew they can find.

>>18133300
>your parents
fuck off degenerate scum
you're not here for history or anything related

>>18133309
Neither are your parents, they just want to feel important by serving people who claim to be important.

>>18133334
what are you talking about brownoid?
Are you here to discuss history and humanities or what?

>>18133351
How is the fact that your parents sold out your future a long time ago, so they could get in the good graces of their jewish overlords, not a historical fact? Are you saying you are underage, so your parents selling you out is still a current event and doesn't yet count as a historical event as a result?

>>18133361
>your parents
I feel bad for your parents for producing a retarded brown shit like yourself
then again, by the way you type it appears they are siblings
do you call your dad uncle and your mom aunt?
Now that we got this out of the way, ask your question again but try to be more literate

>>18133371
I accept your concession.
You should probably ask your parents to teach you how capitalization and punctuation work before making grammar and mastery of the English language your primary arguments, though.

>>18133374
>your parents
yo momma so fat she has her own gravitational pull
boom gottem benchod

>>18133586
Your jew worshiping momma so fat when hamas shot her, gravy poured out.

>>18133145
Curse Vishnu

>>18133592
>brown coded reply
go hug a train poopjeet

>>18132826
>the quick MSpaint spray on the nose to make it bigger
Kek. They never miss.

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>>18130240
>>18130251
so we have to racemix or else we will become disneyland?

>>18129668 (OP)
Keep in mind that Sparta literally collapsed because they refused to breed with outsiders and were too conservative.

By the Roman era Sparta was a tourist destination for them to mock and observe how backwards and terrible the past was. It was widely considered the worst greek city state and inherently uncivilized, leading to its collapse.

People only simp for Sparta in the USA because of a capeshit film based off a comic book and some sparta-themed propaganda meant to justify the war on terror.

>>18134332
The left don't look like this because the people on the right don't exist

>>18135327
>Keep in mind that Sparta literally collapsed because they refused to breed with outsiders and were too conservative
Lol fag, reddit is down the hall

>>18132887
So the reason you worship him is because he was a gay, pedo, eunuch jew and as one yourself you can relate on a deeply personal and spiritual level? Got it. Thanks.

>>18134332
Modern pagans are called larpers because they don't believe the pagan gods exist. they are atheists with a paint job.