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Anonymous No.18136417 [Report] >>18136424 >>18136437 >>18137121 >>18137205 >>18137390 >>18137626
kill protties, behead protties, roundhouse kick a prottie into the concrete, slam dunk a prottie baby into a trashcan, circumsize protties, crucify filthy protties, defecate in a prottie food
Anonymous No.18136424 [Report] >>18136475 >>18136537 >>18137178
>>18136417 (OP)
The light of God will never die in Christ.
Anonymous No.18136427 [Report] >>18136430 >>18136434
>The plot was discovered when the Catholic Lord Monteagle, warning him to stay away from the house of lords
Anonymous No.18136430 [Report]
>>18136427
*when a letter was given to
Anonymous No.18136434 [Report]
>>18136427
fucking pick me's
Anonymous No.18136437 [Report]
>>18136417 (OP)
Anonymous No.18136475 [Report] >>18136485
>>18136424
Um, no. The entire problem is that yours is now a compositional approach. We're Aristotelians here, so the dilemma is that by saying that something that was even at any time alienable from god is "made one" with God, then you are saying that God is made up of parts. But we want God to be simultaneously indivisible (to avoid the accusation of shirk) and also divisible (because we really like talking about Jesus and the Holy Spirit separately for political reasons, oh and because the Bible constantly treats them as separate entities that are doing different things at different times). After all, if X and Y are the same, then every predicate that applies to X must apply to Y, all the time, and at every point in time (believing that Jesus was once just a divine being and then became one with God is shirk too). If Y simply merges into X, then the result is actually neither X nor Y but a new composite (which is mega-shirk since you are now saying that the unchangeable God didn't exist as he is now until Jesus was exalted).

Look, it's an unsolvable problem because its error is a philosophical one. What does it mean to be "equal"? In fact, what is a thing? Aristotelian metaphysics maintains that equality is a quality of atomistic and distinct elements in reality, which is a massive problem for the Trinity since the Bible does not make that apologia easy. Hence the typical response is to just shut the fuck up and not think about it. Then, when you've trained yourself to blank out when thinking about the Trinity, you can retroactively define your rote response of not thinking as "divine certainty" or "yaqeen" or whatever. It's a neat trick that most religions use but it means you're no longer part of the conversation.
Anonymous No.18136481 [Report] >>18136740
Guy Fawkes is in hell
Anonymous No.18136485 [Report] >>18136502 >>18137770
>>18136475
>saying that something that was even at any time alienable from God

There was no path for reunification until the Son made it possible by providing the body of Christ. Necessitated by the fall, which caused the Spirit to be in the flesh.
Anonymous No.18136502 [Report] >>18136504 >>18136509 >>18136521
>>18136485
Okay, you are committed to the compositional view then. But you understand that this is essentially apostasy as far as most Christians are concerned, yes? Your god "came to exist" at a certain time. Even I am doing a shitty job emulating Aristotelians since I'm acknowledging that a change could maybe possibly mean you are dealing with two separate entities, whereas the typical conception is that of entities that simply endure changes onto themselves while maintaining their metaphysical identity. It's more accurate to say that your God changed from one form to another form. This is kufr for most Christians! God cannot ever be said to split, ever!

(Also I use Islamic terms like "kufr" and "shirk" because they are far cleaner than the Christian ones).
Anonymous No.18136504 [Report]
>>18136502
>Your god "came to exist" at a certain time
That was not part of what I said. You will not understand stop trying to ascribe your preconceptions to the Truth.
Anonymous No.18136509 [Report] >>18136534
>>18136502
>Your god "came to exist" at a certain time
That was not part of what I said.
Anonymous No.18136521 [Report] >>18136536
>>18136502
you use islamic terms because you are muslim
Anonymous No.18136534 [Report] >>18136666
>>18136509
I am aware that you did not literally say that. And anyway, if responding to another human being had only to do with literally quoting what they said, then you would have to establish that I literally said that you said that, which I did not. I inferred it just as you inferred that. You inferred wrongly but that's okay since I really want to move on and would rather not have this devolve into an exchange of quips.

As I said later on, that was probably not the Aristotelian way to phrase it. As you might have gleamed from what I wrote if you did read it, I do not think that there is necessarily a difference between God changing and a new God coming to exist. The difference between being X and not being X is based on the framing being used. This is the same sense in which, in a conception in which identity is decided by the literal persistence of each individual cell in a human being, everyone is constantly not the same thing. Skin and blood cells die, memories change, etc. That's not a popular framing when dealing with human beings because it doesn't allow us to explain a lot of social phenomena. Reality makes a lot of sense if a baby assumes that the woman that just breastfed it five hours ago and the one straddling it now are the same. For one, it means it can expect milk from it. There's no problem with this, and we just need to know the consequences of the abstraction and know when to give it up for a better one.

As I said, the way that I imagine you would phrase it is not that God "came to exist" but that God changed at some point. I am assuming here that you would consider a merger a change to both parties. In the typical sense, it implies that at least one of them ceases to exist. This is also another problem for a very strict Aristotelian reading since that should be impossible; a merger would mean that neither exists as they were anymore, or the merger would be equivalent to the annihilation of the absorbed.
Anonymous No.18136536 [Report]
>>18136521
If that's what it takes for you to make sense of what I'm saying, then sure. I'm not really concerned if a stranger thinks I'm a Muslim.
Anonymous No.18136537 [Report]
>>18136424
Just FYI, "all that is of God" =/= everything
Anonymous No.18136666 [Report]
>>18136534
>I imagine
Probably you should just ask what was meant if you did not understand it. Your imaginings are not correct because you choose not so see the light.
Anonymous No.18136740 [Report] >>18136759
Today is a day of mourning for Guy Fawkes who failed in his righteous mission to destroy Westminster, all religious reasoning aside. Though it should be noted that Westminster is satan's HQ anyhow.
>>18136481
Only because he failed by tattling on himself.
Anonymous No.18136759 [Report]
>>18136740
Romanism is from the pit
Anonymous No.18136978 [Report]
>circumsize protties
???

They do that on their own.
t. uncut
Anonymous No.18137032 [Report] >>18137357 >>18137635
If you had the opportunity to hijack a tv station what would you say?

>>>/tv/215714390
Anonymous No.18137121 [Report]
>>18136417 (OP)
He's enjoying hell right now.
Anonymous No.18137178 [Report] >>18137462
>>18136424
Anonymous No.18137205 [Report] >>18137391 >>18137600
>>18136417 (OP)
You do know that Guy/Guido Fawkes wasn't the planner, brains, or motivating force behind the gunpowder plot, right? He was a literal mercenary hired in to do the explosives work the plot required because none of the Catholic gentlemen behind the plot had ever worked with explosives before - and were at least intelligent enough to know that that's the sort of work you leave to someone who knows what he's doing.
Anonymous No.18137357 [Report] >>18137389
>>18137032
Thats a good question. I do not know.
Anonymous No.18137389 [Report]
>>18137357
Thanks for your honesty.
Anonymous No.18137390 [Report]
>>18136417 (OP)
This but all christcucks no matter the flavor.
Anonymous No.18137391 [Report] >>18137451 >>18139128
>>18137205
He was a jesuit priest acting on orders from Rome
Anonymous No.18137451 [Report]
>>18137391
Yah, tell it to the judge
Anonymous No.18137462 [Report] >>18137586
>>18137178
Failing to discern any difference between the light and the dark is spiritual blindness.
Anonymous No.18137586 [Report]
>>18137462
oh yah?
Anonymous No.18137600 [Report] >>18139128
>>18137205
Every biography of Fawkes mentions his Catholicism and that of his mother. Nice try Moore.
Anonymous No.18137626 [Report]
>>18136417 (OP)
Anonymous No.18137635 [Report]
>>18137032
Anonymous No.18137770 [Report] >>18137796
>>18136485
so many things happen that god is powerless to prevent or fix in an instant. there are impossible things that are only possible by following a certain route. makes one wonder,
Anonymous No.18137796 [Report]
>>18137770
The freeing of the Spirit from the flesh was another option, but instead the light have salvation in Christ, freed from sin with license in to weild the name of God.
Anonymous No.18139128 [Report]
>>18137391
Retard

>>18137600
Of course he was Catholic, you dozy cunt. That doesn't make him the ringleader of the group. He was the hired help, the demolitions expert, not the brains behind the operation.