Thread 18137222

Yearly, Apion claimed, Jews would kidnap a Greek, fatten him up, burn him alive, then swear to destroy The Greeks completely, then dump the remains in the pit.
Who is more believable, Apion, highlighting the ritualistic hatred of Greeks by Jews? Or Flavius Josephus, writing an entire Greek book for the goyim to read about how deydidntdonuthing?

>>18137222 (OP)
The ritual flesh consumption of one's enemies to steal their power and ensure their destruction is consistent with the objectives for which Talmud jew religion was created after the Son established the Kingdom for all those that are born of the Spirit. They, jews, did not want to share such a crown and therefore sought and continue to seek the destruction of all others who have a claim to the kingdom of God.

/his/ - Jews 24/7

>>18137222 (OP)
The correct answer is that you're an idiot. But besides that, the real problem is that you feel so comfortable in your idiocy that, as a meme (and therefore from the inner recesses of the subconscious), you confess that you believe that the length of a response has an inverse relationship with the veracity of a statement. This is a common ailment that permeates internet discourse so you are not alone in your suffering but it is trivially wrong. You'll need to come up with a different excuse to not read.

It's pretty pathetic that this needs to be explicitly said but Apion was either lying or proliferating a lie. It's one thing to claim that a Greek person got eaten by Jews at some point in time (not completely impossible since human beings have cannibalized on other humans in many circumstances), but another thing to claim that this is a yearly tradition. Even on a practical level this is moronic (is this a practice of all the Jews? Where does this happen? In a temple? So is that, like, one Greek person per temple? Do you know how many Jews there are? That's a lot of Greeks getting eaten! And it's APION that has to point this out, apparently? Where did they get the political power to even do such a thing, anyway? But, again, I understand that the logic of this place is very much the logic of Christians, where the light of the Aryan race is supposed to guide you to the truth and if you close your eyes then it'll all make sense. Well, you're still a moron; it didn't work. Maybe try something else?

>>18137302

I think Apion is lying.

It's just not feasible as Josephus points out.

Also this was before Jewish culture was Diaspored.

The normie Jews back then had enough decent people that "the decent people will mob us to death if we murder someone" is a repeatedly-stated fear of the villains in the New Testament.

>>18137302
>>18137375
>Apion is a honest and truthful historian when he shows that ancient Greeks like Pythagoras admired the jews
>Apion is lying whenever he says anything bad about the jews and an untrusty source
curious.
Surely rival ethnic groups would never-ever fight for territory or engage in ritual sacrifice when highly religious and organized
>>18137379
>human sacrifice
he was murdered

>>18137222 (OP)
A noted Pagan opponent of the Jews or a hellenized Advocate of Judaism? I do not think we have a reason to trust one more than the other. Of course we know who you'd believe but you also a priori agree with Apion on this so your input is not too useful.
Besides, a religious polemic from any side is a lousy source, generally. But neither is an apology/counter polemic by the attacked very reliable.
>>18137302
I sometimes wonder if modern promotion of blood libel isn't just black propaganda to shit-coat more legitimate attacks and criticisms of Jews.
>>18138143
>Denying Jesus was sacrificed
Knows no Christian theology award.

Blood libel is real check out Simon of Trent

Jews are indeed not good boys getting Dey lives back together on the way to synagogue

>>18138293
The case where the Papal legates were not allowed to talk with the Jews or the witnesses? Reason why the Papacy dismissed it at the time?

>>18138143

There's no way it was "EVERYBODY APPROVES OF THIS" in the time of Gamaliel, Hillel the Elder and Shammai, the family if John the Baptist, and Nicodemus.

There was a large enough population of decent Jews at this time they had to give Jesus the Messiah a midnight trial to avoid normies stoning them.

There are ritual cults, but they're more recent and post-date the Talmud and Zohar (based on violating Isaiah's warning against inversion) giving the poor Israelites awful deception. ("There's a curse if you calculate the Weeks of Daniel to see when Messiah will be born! The Temple between rejecting sacrifices when He would have been thirty-ish! We sure dislike it when anyone uses the Name of God to resurrect Himself! And descendants of David who are from families of carpenters! Not referring to anyone in particular of course. Don't ever read Isaiah 53 that says He's supposed to revive from the dead! Okay?! Redemption if the Jews will involve a two-horned animal like the sheep in the thorns who took the place of Isaac! When Jacob was buried, kings put their crowns in the bier making it look like a crown of thorns so the redemption of Israel will involve a crown of thorns! The Taanach says 'He lays the beams of His palace in the heavens' so God is a carpenter! Since Joseph was betrayed by Judah, Messiuah will be betrayed by someone film the tribe of Judah" (s Iscariot)) Orthodox Judaism is a huge cope but I feel kind of bad for them. (Those are all actual quotes from the Talmud, traditional halacha, or Orthodox Jewish blogs and websites. Mi Yodeya, Sefaria, Mayim Achronim. The last guy has written an entire blog about Jesus Christ without realizing it.

They're so tragic because like they come so close...

>>18138143
>he was murdered
If he was god it was entirely by his choice and design.

>>18138562
>>The Temple between rejecting sacrifices when He would have been thirty-ish!

Typo... It should be "began."

But yeah the rabbinical records mention the red cord no longer changed white in the Temple for forty years before Jerusalem fell (about the time of Jesus Christ's crucifixion.)

These records were written by the sect who did the crucifixion and they're really really desperate to cover up the possibility He might have been the Messiah.

>>18138569

Yes, but also yes.

Acts 2:22-24
King James Version
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

>>18137222 (OP)
Cassius Dio too. There are "tales" of their disturbing antics all throughout history oddly enough.

>>18137222 (OP)
Wikipedia
>Israeli war crimes are violations of international criminal law, including war crimes, crimes against humanity and the crime of genocide, which Israeli security forces have committed or been accused of committing since the founding of Israel in 1948. These have included murder, intentional targeting of civilians, killing prisoners of war and surrendered combatants, indiscriminate attacks, collective punishment, starvation, persecution, the use of human shields, sexual violence and rape, torture, pillage, forced transfer, breach of medical
neutrality, enforced disappearance, targeting journalists, attacking civilian and protected objects, wanton destruction, incitement to genocide, and genocide.

>>18137222 (OP)
>Book of Esther, which recounts a violent turn of events where the Jewish people in the ancient Persian Empire, under threat of annihilation, were granted permission by the king to defend themselves and kill their enemies.
>According to the text, the Jews killed 500 men in the capital city of Shushan (Susa), plus Haman's ten sons, and an additional 75,000 people throughout the provinces of the empire. The book emphasizes that the Jews did not take any plunder.
Purim

>>18138578
The rabbinical records hahahahahaha. Also the Talmud does not say that. The Talmud states that miracles (including the thread thing) gradually became rarer and rarer after the death of Ezra's successor in co-relation with the decreasing piety of the Jews. This took place over five centuries culminating in it not happening at all for 40 years before the destruction of the Temple. Aside from that we don't know for sure when Jesus was crucified.