Thread 18138526

The first civilization was created by white men in Europe.
Cope and seethe leftards and brownoids this is a fact, and if we are ever to escape the anti-white/European woke era it will be consensus within the academic community.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucuteni%E2%80%93Trypillia_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_symbols

>Anon posts counterexamples or counter evidence
>OP retorts by calling them a leftist
>Thread devolves into a mix of schizograph spam and haploautism
there, just saved everyone 300 posts

>>18138526 (OP)
These were white people. Meds are white people the are closely related to the neolithic farmers who had the first mutations for pale skin.
>The light skin variants of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 were present in Anatolia by 9,000 years ago, where they became associated with the Neolithic Revolution. From here, their carriers spread Neolithic farming across Europe.[31] Lighter skin and blond hair also evolved in the Ancient North Eurasian population
Plus haplogroups such as I2 which is related to the Nordic I1 were found in abundance in the Cucuteni-Tryphilia culture as well as the other Nordic haplogroup R1A.

>>18138531
This entire board is comprised of two autists arguing with each other day in and day out. Anyone sane would post elsewhere.

>>18138531
>Anon posts counterexamples or counter evidence
Ok post them then leftoid.
>OP retorts by calling them a leftist
Because you are one or a spiteful br*wnoid go back to plebbit.
>Thread devolves into a mix of schizograph spam and haploautism
Haplogroups show population movements, you are just denying science and genetics like a flat earther denies the shape of the earth.

>>18138531
I love Second and Third worlders.

>>18138526 (OP)
The people of the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture built monumental architecture such as massive temples, earthworks and walls with integrated housing.

>>18138554
More monumental architecture.

>>18138549
I'm Germanic and live in the first world.
>>18138559
Diagram showing a map of the excavations of one of the megacity sites and the walls surrounding it.

>>18138526 (OP)
>Some scholars have used the abundance of these clay female fetish statues to base the theory that this culture was matriarchal in nature. Indeed, it was partially the archaeological evidence from Cucuteni–Trypillia culture that inspired Marija Gimbutas, Joseph Campbell and some latter 20th century feminists to set forth the popular theory of an Old European culture of peaceful, egalitarian (counter to a widespread misconception, "matristic" not matriarchal), goddess-centred neolithic European societies that were wiped out by patriarchal, Sky Father-worshipping, warlike, Bronze-Age Proto-Indo-European tribes that swept out of the steppes north and east of the Black Sea

The Proto-Indo-Europeans conquered and put an end to this rubbish. I dare anyone to refute me:

>Metallurgy, mining, and ceramic technology declined sharply in both volume and technical skill, and ceramics and metal objects changed markedly in style. The copper mines in the Balkans abruptly ceased production; copper-using cultures in central Europe and the Carpathians switched to Transylvanian and Hungarian ores about 4000 BCE, at the beginning of the Bodrogkeresztur culture in Hungary

>In its three largest cemeteries, Oleksandriia (39 individuals), Igren (17) and Deriivka II (14), evidence of burial in flat graves (pits at ground level) has been found. This parallels the practice of the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture and contrasts with the later Yamnaya culture, which practiced tomb burials

>Genetic analyzes of Trypillian remains from the CII period of Trypillian chronology indicate a substantial presence of the so-called steppe genetic ancestry that characterizes representatives of the Yamna cultural complex

Proto-Indo-Europeans made kurgans in the areas of the people they conquered, the abrupt presence of kurgans is not random.

>>18138565
Dan Davis famous for helping debunk Graham Hancock has also made a video on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkVtlvC3tPE&t=739s

>>18138554
>>18138559
>>18138565
Correct
>>18138526 (OP)
The plot thickens: thank your EEF (ANF+WHG) ancestors for greater strength, your WHS(IE) ancestors for muscle mass.
How does it make sense you ask?
WHG and ANF were smaller, so it makes senes they selected for "higher quality" mass.

>>18138575
A reconstructed two-story house.

>>18138540
>>18138526 (OP)
What? What? Weren't we brown Arabs or something? Is hatred convenient? When using Trypillia as an example of European magnitude, they were white, but when it comes to Nordicism, in reality the meds are brown and subhuman... make up your minds; are southern Europeans "white" or not? Scoundrels.

>>18138526 (OP)
>The first civilization was created
By Non-White Natufians.

>The word civilization relates to the Latin civitas or 'city'. As the National Geographic Society has explained it: "This is why the most basic definition of the word civilization is 'a society made up of cities.'" The earliest emergence of civilizations is generally connected with the final stages of the Neolithic Revolution in West Asia, culminating in the relatively rapid process of urban revolution and state formation, a political development associated with the appearance of a governing elite

>Following the ASPRO chronology, the Neolithic started in around 10,200 BC in the Levant, arising from the Natufian culture, when pioneering use of wild cereals evolved into early farming. The Natufian period or "proto-Neolithic" lasted from 12,500 to 9,500 BC, and is taken to overlap with the Pre-Pottery Neolithic (PPNA) of 10,200–8800 BC

>The Cucuteni–Trypillia culture, also known as the Tripolye culture, is a Neolithic–Eneolithic archaeological culture (c. 5500 to 2750 BCE) of Eastern Europe

>>18138581
Cucuteni-Trypillian pottery was quite literally thousands of years ahead of its time comparable to pottery of the archaic Greek era.

>>18138589
Jerico didn't look like that in 6000BC dumbass that's the early to late bronze age.

>>18138574
Zucoid? 1)Shitty reconstruction
2)
>Cucuteni-Trypillia ceramics have been found in Yamna sites.[2]

>(Yamna) An extensive trade network spanning a large region from central and southeast Europe to modern-day Kazakhstan and Russia, involving many trade goods, and indication of a class of merchants and traders.[2]

>Also beginning around 4500 BC, the Yamna culture began to establish settlements as far west as Transylvania, which existed side-by-side with Cucuteni-Trypillia settlements.[2]

>>18138583
>are southern Europeans "white" or not?
Yes only divide and conquer shills say otherwise all Europeans are white.

>>18138598
Hmm, it's rare to see that from a Nordic person. Usually you just despise my race and call us disgusting Arabs.

>>18138589
>By Non-White Natufians
They had no monumental architecture and Jericho wasn't large enough to be considered a city in 6000BC.
Also the Trypillians may not have had a written language but the closely related Vinca people did.

>>18138598
This one has swastikas on it.

>>18138554
Haha, Germanic architecture from the Iron Age and the Middle Ages seems far inferior to that of the EEF from 6000 BC.

>>18138574
>Schroeder et al. (2019) examined 15 skeletons from the Koszyce mass grave in southern Poland, which is ascribed to the Globular Amphora culture. The individuals were all shown to be members of an extended family, and to have been buried with great care by someone who knew them very well. Most of them were female and children. All had been executed by a violent blow to the head, perhaps by invading Corded Ware groups. The older males of the family are missing from the grave, suggesting that they were away or had fled. Of the eight samples of Y-DNA extracted, all were found to belong to I2a-L801. The fifteen samples of mtDNA extracted belonged to various subclades of T, H, J, K, HV. The skeletons were determined to have about 70% Neolithic farmer ancestry and 30% Western Hunter-Gatherer ancestry, meaning they had no steppe ancestry. The archaeological and genetic evidence collected from the grave indicated that the Globular Amphora culture was patriarchal and kinship-oriented, which appears to have been the norm for Late Neolithic communities in Central Europe

Brutal.

>>18138601
Bullshit I don't see that much it's probably a jeet or mudslime false flagging.
Meds are neolithic farmer stock, they have natural pale skin just like all Europeans.

>>18138608
This is centuries after the existence of Yamnaya or even Trypillia, you're not even European, you transvestite. You hate Europeans and want to sow discord among everyone, Nord vs Med Steppe vs EEF.

>>18138606
What you're showing there is a reconstruction of some of the houses in Hedeby a massive Norse city kys.
They adapted the simpler local Saxon residential architecture because of Hedeby's location in modern day Germany.
On average Norsemen lived in houses like these picrel.

Ignore the idiot. He wants to divide things, I bet I know who he is. A piece of advice? Ignore this pest.
This remarkable site from the European Chalcolithic period may have had a population of tens of thousands. There was social and economic differentiation in the constructions, including public buildings and temples. Many megastructures remain unexcavated, with some reaching over 50 meters in length, and one of them was even estimated to be 66 meters long through geophysics.

>>18138606
Hedeby was impressive for its time one of the largest cities in Northern Europe in the early middle ages.

>>18138618
>>18138554
We need a "EEFfag". We already have 2 linguisticfags

>>18138526 (OP)
Whites created all ancient civilizations.

>>18138617
>>18138620
Congratulations. Feed the troll.

>>18138606
>A construction team working in Herxheim, Germany, unearthed something absolutely horrifying. Underneath the ground where they had intended to build was a massive pit full of dead bodies—more than 1,000 in all.

>The bodies had been resting there for more than 7,000 years. Whatever happened to them, though, was a fate worse than death. They hadn’t just been killed. Their skulls had been scraped clean. Their ribs had been peeled from their vertebrae like a butcher preparing a pig. Some of the bones had been snapped and the marrow inside sucked out

>These people, it seems, were scalped, skinned, butchered, and cannibalized. This, though, was no act of desperation by starving people. There were more than 1,000 victims, and the way they’d been skinned was too ritualized. This was not a crime of passion or a temporary lapse of sanity. It was a planned ritual that a whole community had come together to perform

>Whether for religious purpose or war, it is apparent from the 2009 study that the humans at the site of Herxheim, in the neolithic era Germany were butchered and eaten. Not only were cut marks found on locations of the skeleton that are made during the dismemberment and filleting process, bones were also crushed for the purposes of marrow extraction, and chewed. Besides the fresh-bone fractures present on many bones, "[processing] for marrow is also documented by the presence of scrape marks in the marrow cavity on two fragments."

>Skeletal representation analysis revealed that many of the "spongy bone" elements - such as the spinal column, patella, ilium, and sternum - were underrepresented compared to what would be expected in a mass grave. "All these observations are similar to those observed in animal butchery." Additionally, preferential chewing of the metapodials and hand phalanges "speak strongly in favour of human choice rather than more or less random action by carnivores"

Aryan Beasts.

>>18138606
You show this cherry-picked bullshit not showing what it actually looked like in its time.

>>18138631
Please, read here>>18138625

>>18138608
>A construction team working in Herxheim, Germany, unearthed something absolutely horrifying. Underneath the ground where they had intended to build was a massive pit full of dead bodies—more than 1,000 in all.

>The bodies had been resting there for more than 7,000 years. Whatever happened to them, though, was a fate worse than death. They hadn’t just been killed. Their skulls had been scraped clean. Their ribs had been peeled from their vertebrae like a butcher preparing a pig. Some of the bones had been snapped and the marrow inside sucked out

>These people, it seems, were scalped, skinned, butchered, and cannibalized. This, though, was no act of desperation by starving people. There were more than 1,000 victims, and the way they’d been skinned was too ritualized. This was not a crime of passion or a temporary lapse of sanity. It was a planned ritual that a whole community had come together to perform

>Whether for religious purpose or war, it is apparent from the 2009 study that the humans at the site of Herxheim, in the neolithic era Germany were butchered and eaten. Not only were cut marks found on locations of the skeleton that are made during the dismemberment and filleting process, bones were also crushed for the purposes of marrow extraction, and chewed. Besides the fresh-bone fractures present on many bones, "[processing] for marrow is also documented by the presence of scrape marks in the marrow cavity on two fragments."

>Skeletal representation analysis revealed that many of the "spongy bone" elements - such as the spinal column, patella, ilium, and sternum - were underrepresented compared to what would be expected in a mass grave. "All these observations are similar to those observed in animal butchery." Additionally, preferential chewing of the metapodials and hand phalanges "speak strongly in favour of human choice rather than more or less random action by carnivores"

Aryan Beasts.

>>18138629
>>18138618
The settlements of Cucuteni-Trypillia had buildings of various sizes, including enormous megastructures in important locations.

>>18138631
To show a few peasant houses from a large Norse city is misleading, its disinformation.

>>18138639
Here's one of the larger houses.

>>18138636
>"The number of people concerned at Herxheim obviously suggests that cannibalism for the simple purpose of survival is highly improbable, all the more so as the characteristics of the deposits show a standard, repetitive, and strongly ritualised practice"

>A detailed study published by the excavators in 2015 estimates that the site contains the scattered remains of more than 1000 individuals, all of whom were butchered and eaten. More than a third of the dead were juveniles, ranging from newborns to teenagers. Both men and women were among the victims, but in most cases sex determination was not possible

>A 2010 study of ancient DNA suggested the LBK population had affinities to modern-day populations from the Near East and Anatolia, such as an overall prevalence of G2. The study also found some unique features, such as the prevalence of the now-rare Y-haplogroup H2 and mitochondrial haplogroup frequencies. However subsequent studies based on full-genome analysis have found that the LBK population was similar genetically to modern southern Europeans, and did not resemble modern Near Eastern or Anatolian populations. Neolithic Anatolian farmers have also been found to be more similar to modern southern Europeans than to modern Near Easterners or Anatolians

>Lipson et al. (2017) and Narasimhan et al. (2019) analyzed a large number of skeletons ascribed to the Linear Pottery Culture. Most of the Y-DNA belonged to G2a and subclades of it, some to I2 and subclades of it, beside few samples of T1a, CT, and C1a2. The samples of mtDNA extracted were various subclades of T, H, N, U, K, J, X, HV, and V

Furthermore, there is good evidence for the use of metal among this civilization.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371968410_Rol_kulturnoj_obsnosti_Kukuten-Tripola_v_genezise_kultur_epohi_bronzy_Severnogo_Pricernomora_vzglad_na_problemu_cerez_prizmu_istorii_metallurgii_medi-bronzy_regiona_In_Procnee_medi_red_L_V_Dergaceva_K

>>18138643
Comfy Trypillian houses

>>18138606
KYS scumbag you don't know anything about Germanic architecture.
All you anti-white subhumans know how to do is lie.

>>18138649
And since we're talking about a civilization with external relations, the oldest metal artifact discovered in Poland may belong to the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture. Of course, Funnelbeaker certainly had limited experience in metallurgy, so take this with a grain of salt. But it's a possibility.
https://www.anatolianarchaeology.net/the-oldest-copper-axe-discovered-in-poland/

>>18138606
Opulent.

Do you know why this Brazilian shouldn't be taken seriously? He's the FIRST to try and discredit any aspect of IEs on any topic where it's mentioned, whether through genetic lies he doesn't understand or distorted quotes. But then we have a topic about EEF that he ironically used against IEs, and now, for some reason, he's trying to discredit it and argue that EEFs actually defeated them and that they were inferior. Do you know what that means? He simply hates everything European. Absolutely everything, and it's not victimhood.

>>18138654
A photo with a beautiful ceramic vase above. These pieces were luxurious and made to be displayed, just as fine china is displayed in a china cabinet in the countryside

>>18138621
EEFs had fleas. That's why the burnt house horizon exists. Fleas caused plaque. The only way to purge a house of the black plague flea curse was to burn it down.

EEFs stopped worshiping the fire god Prometheus who taught them how to purify by flame. That's why they all suddenly died of COVID and Aryans moved in.

>>18138667
Map showing the location of the Kosenivka settlement and the Chalcolithic sites mentioned in the text.

>>18138665
This thing is desperate for attention, look how nobody is responding to it and now it's trying to get attention haha it's really a personal problem with white people

>>18138680
There is much jungle ignorance here, but the houses of the Cucuteni-Trypillia group were deliberately** burned at the end of their useful life, in a ritualistic practice that included the offering of a "dead house set" of objects before the burning. This practice resembles cremation, which was the group's main funerary practice, performed for both people and houses, with the ashes being scattered freely, without the use of urns.

>>18138692
Based EEFfag

>>18138661
That's Italians doing that to their own civilization. You can blame christcuckianity for that.

>>18138682
>haha it's really a personal problem with white people
This its spiteful envy, he wishes he was a med.

>>18138526 (OP)
>right wing is when you hate niggers
Stopped reading.

>>18138698
Shut up OP

>>18138695
The EEFs were fascinating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbm80SzraRw

>>18138692
Was there an IE invasion at the site?

>>18138698
>wignat
>anti-christian
Like the ticking of a clock.

>>18138706
Ah you're a cuckservative negrophile?

>>18138526 (OP)
Mogged

>>18138713
The destruction of the roman empire was not caused by the "barbarians" it was Christianity that caused it cope and seethe christcuck.

>>18138727
Stop posting late bronze age shit dumbass Jericho looked like this at the height of Cucuteni-tryphilia nice try.

>>18138728
>In the Christian Era, Roman theatre experienced a decline due to the Church's opposition, which condemned it for its association with paganism and immoral content like the popular mimes and pantomimes

>>18138716
There isn't much direct and tangible evidence, actually, only things that could indicate conflict, but not necessarily between IE groups. Let me explain...
There is no evidence of violence at the Cucuteni-Trypillia (CT) culture sites, but it is a fact that they began to fortify their settlements at the end, and there is a site with many arrowheads outside the walls, suggesting an attack. But it could have been anyone.
It is uncertain whether it was an attack by steppe peoples or conflict between the CT themselves. There are also possibilities of conflicts with other cultures, such as the Globular Amphora and the Funnelbeaker, who were in contact with them. The violence was often lunatic, for lack of a better term.

What is certain is that there was a major disruption in the social order followed by the expansion of the steppes, but it may not necessarily be linked to the steppe; some authors postulate climate crisis and/or soil degradation. Before this, when CT was thriving, there were no signs of large-scale violence, but the lack of human remains due to mortuary practices makes confirmation difficult
https://web.archive.org/web/20091026003035/http://geocities.com/vcmtalk/primalwound.html
>>18138728
Are you the OP? How old are you, exactly? Don't you realize you're ruining the thread with your teenage anger? Your opinions on Italians or Christianity are irrelevant to the thread; this has turned into a circus. There are spammers and people like you talking about Christianity and Rome in a thread about a Neolithic culture. This place is hopeless. I have to leave. Thanks to everyone who was interested, but the idiots have no shame.

>>18138734
Thanks anon, I personally believe it was a combination of everything, and please don't leave the thread, we need an EEFfag because the mesophagus is a carrion eater.
>>18138728
Off topic saar

>>18138734
>The violence was often lunatic, for lack of a better term.
That's true, the EEF attacks on EEF were psychotic, like the Mexican cartel. There are some sites in central Europe with evidence of torture and dismemberment.

>>18138719
Yes.

>>18138665
It's either this or him favelaposting in other threads about his schizo conspiracy theories

>>18138732
>In the Christian era, Roman baths became a subject of controversy, with early Christian doctrine associating them with decadence and discouraging public bathing in favor of spiritual purity

>>18138730
Still the world's first city. Cope. And Gobleki Tepe is way more impressive than Cucuteni's shitty mudhuts that Euroids kept burning like retards.

>>18138734
Me again.
To everyone interested, I'm having trouble posting the PDFs because /his/ thinks it's spam, but this link I posted is an interesting summary and there are bibliographies at the end that I invite you to read. There are several theories; I personally believe it may have been due to soil degradation, as there is evidence of abandonment. I could talk about this, but I'm over 16 and I don't have time to participate in a circus about who destroyed Rome.
>>18138738
plausible.
>>18138740
Which site are you referring to?

Why do people genuinely interested in discussing history as human beings represent such a small fraction of /his/? You idiots make everything unbearable, you morons. Your place is in /pol/ or some trash like that. KYS, please, or mods, clean it up.
>>18138606
Did you see anyone here talking about "Germanic" or "Indo-European"? Idiot, you're one of the worst posters here. Stop with these green texts you don't understand, you troublesome piece of shit.

>>18138531
Based

>>18138734
This is correct, it's not worth it, this thread has already turned into a haplotard discussion, but I'm interested in it.

>>18138740
>There are some sites in central Europe with evidence of torture and dismemberment.
This was prevalent in all human cultures. And these massacres occurred at the end of the LBK probably caused by droughts, famine and climate change. It didn't happen for no reason, there was probably extensive competition for land and certain farming communities were probably envious of the success of others.

>>18138769
>This was prevalent in all human cultures
No shit.. really?!? Wow

>>18138753
There weren't large settlements in Gobleki Tepe. Also those people were Anatolians so literal Proto-Europeans prove me wrong.

>>18138762
It's a Brazilian or a seething Egyptian brownoid.

>>18138734
>Irrelevant to the thread
Hey newfag, don't you know that's how things work? You make a specific thread about a shitty Ukrainian culture and somehow the discussion becomes an epicenter about Christianity and Rome, that's how things work here

>>18138792
>shitty Ukrainian culture
At the time it was one of the most or the most advanced culture in the world dumbass

>>18138779
Its also the OP

>>18138795
Hey litte whorecalm down or I'll call your pimp. I used "shitty" without being anything too specific, but your whole thread is a fiasco because you encouraged KYS.

>>18138796
That doesn't make any sense why would OP why would OP claim whites built the first civilization then post anti-white propaganda?

>>18138801
I can see you are a self-hating seething leftoid or brownoid that is triggered by facts. Actually come up with some retorts or evidence against my thread instead of just "nah ah".

>>18138526 (OP)
Eurocuck longhouses built by Anatolian-descent EEF men who raped European women isn't civilization. Naqada is more interesting, impressive, culturally relevant and reminiscent of a civilization than whatever this is.

>>18139056
All europeans are of Anatolian-descent brownoid.
>isn't civilization
But the benin kingdom, mali empire or "great" zimbabwe are? how isn't it a civilisation?
>Naqada
Why? also that is way younger.

>>18139056
>Ancient Egyptian women had significant legal and economic rights, including the ability to own property, enter into contracts, and initiate divorce. They were considered equal to men before the law
holy based and trad saar

>>18138602
The population of the city of Jericho in Palestine is estimated to be around 20,000-25,000 people, with seasonal increases due to tourism. The larger Jericho Governorate has a population of approximately 50,000, which includes the city, surrounding villages, and two refugee camps (Ein as-Sultan and Aqbat Jabr) with about 12,000 residents combined.
WHAT IS YOUR MONUMENT IN YOUR SHITTY HOUSE UKRAINE OP?
THIS IS JERICHO.
Tower of Jericho: A 28-foot-tall stone tower built around 8000 BCE, considered one of the world's earliest examples of monumental architecture. It was part of a larger fortification system.
Walls of Jericho: Massive stone walls built around 8000 BCE, representing some of the earliest known structures with purely military purposes.
Jericho Skulls: A series of seven plastered and decorated skulls from the Neolithic period (c. 7000 BCE). They were created by stuffing the skulls with soil and adding a plaster face, often with shells for eyes. These artifacts are considered some of the earliest examples of portraiture.
Hisham's Palace mosaic: A large and intricate floor mosaic discovered in Khirbat al-Mafjar, north of Jericho, from the early Islamic Umayyad period (724–747 CE).
Flint tools: A wide variety of tools from the Natufian and Neolithic periods, such as flint blades, scrapers, and arrowheads.
Domesticated evidence: Archaeological evidence shows that Jericho was one of the earliest sites for domesticating plants and animals, which was a crucial step in the Neolithic Revolution.

>>18139091
>The population of the city of Jericho in Palestine is estimated to be around 20,000-25,000 people, with seasonal increases due to tourism
You dishonest cretin using modern population statistics wtf give me the estimated populations in the chalcolithic.

>>18138541
yeah, this board is definitely the worst. it's also possible its top thread spammer is also the jannie since anyone else would be banned long ago for such shameless flooding with low quality bait

>>18139091
>Tower of Jericho: A 28-foot-tall stone tower built around 8000 BCE
See, this is why I don't trust Israeli archaeology: they spent decades saying that Jericho was about 2000 years old. Then, when Turkey started saying that gobekli Tepe was much older at pre 8000 BC, Israel moved all of it's dated back to that same period. Now that Gobekle Tepe is dated at before 9000 BC, you have Israeli's claiming that Jericho is actually slightly older and that there was a town around it.

It's obvious what's happening. I'm just surprised you could be so shameless.

>>18139124
WWHAT THE FUCK YOU ARRE USING THE MODERN POPULATION METHOD FOR YOURSHITTY HOUSE IN UKRAINE?
>>18139134
YEAH AND THEY STILL BROWNOID AS FUCK. WHITE MY ASS. ALL CIVILZIATION BUIL BY NON WHITE YOU SAVAGE SUBHUMAN. GO AND READ CEASAR SAY ABOUT CELT SUBHUMAN.

>>18139138
>WHITE MY ASS. ALL CIVILZIATION BUIL BY NON WHITE YOU SAVAGE SUBHUMAN
If Israel was built up as this massive superpower in 9000+ BC, it was by white people.

>FOR YOURSHITTY HOUSE IN UKRAINE
All jokes aside, there are some reasonable dates for Ukraine to be home to an ancient civilization.

>>18139139
>>18139142
NO YOU DON HAVE ANY FUCKING EVIDENCE FOR THAT HOUSE AT LEAST IN JERICHO YOU CAN SEE THEY BUILD A LARGE HOUSE YOU SUBHUMAN WHITE NI**ER.

>>18139142
>>18139144
they are the oldest city in the world by brownoid.
>>18139139
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=dded0198d961bc80&sxsrf=AE3TifNk0T_MZYb454gPwZ20SHFLUXrqiA:1762418022549&udm=2&fbs=AIIjpHyNLa7NbKa1H9FnKAJNsjCPuuyZ8axF70qppVREZw12J16j6TEYGEwZz6y4Q0FA_xPgxIGLnjlrkVJAr1tPeSu5z2P3Th8g-a9__Sfo91OtyZRQ-mQJaBUexy2imX3JP18-Mk5-A63t16fuV5E2lwBhkXTonmMg8I94UpWiVErqhPbj91zOy170XXRTev1b4ukF57Vx740BJqdJvYZ-tpI6US_ZSseylqtT7YZlh7ZLYu4tJfGFaN0v__M36wgGtlsd0-27&q=natufian+people+face&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjE8Lfhjt2QAxVsmq8BHT5ZHKYQtKgLegQIFBAB&biw=1600&bih=739&dpr=1
PEOPLE BROWN ASS FUCK BUILD OLDEST CITY YOUR WHITE ASS STILL YOUNGER AND YOU DON'T BUILD ANYTHING. THIS IS NOT CIVILIZATION BUT YOU WHITE LOSER ASS STILL LOSING. CIVILIZATION NEED HAVE MATH ARCHITECTURE THE KNOWLEDGE TO PRESERVE LIKE PAPER GLASS AND YOUR CULTURE WHITE ASS DON'T HAVE ANY SHIT.CIVLIZATION NEED GEOMETRY MATH LITERATURE AND YOUR SHIT HAVE WHAT? ONLY BROWNOID CHAD.

>>18139144
>>18139142
>>18139139
The oldest Egyptian mathematical formulas are found in texts like the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus (c. 1550 BCE) and the Moscow Mathematical Papyrus (c. 1850 BCE), which contain a variety of practical problems. These include formulas for the area of triangles and circles, and the volume of cylinders and pyramids. A key formula was the one for the volume of a truncated pyramid: \(V=\frac{1}{3}h(a^{2}+ab+b^{2})\)
THIS IS WHAT CIVLIZATION NOT SOME SHITTY HOSUE IN SNOW NI**ER LAND.
AND BROWNOID CAN BUILD THAT IN DESERT TOO.

>>18139151
Vinca-Varna-Cucuteni-Trypillian culture = more gold before 3000 BC than all of the middle east PLUS Egypt between 1000-3000 BC.

>>18139155
https://christiansfortruth.com/bbc-documentary-reveals-king-tuts-great-grandmother-tjuyu-had-blonde-hair/
show me the fucking real article NOT WE WUZ BROWNED AND SHIT CHRISTIAN IS WHITE AND SHIT YOU SUBHUMAN WHITE LOSER.

>>18139154
AND JERICHO AND TEPPKI IS OLDEST CITY IN THE WORLD NO ONE CARE YOUR SHITTY HOSUE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE PAPER GLASS CONCRETE AND ANY SHIT TO CALL YORU SHITTY HOUSE IN SNOW NI**ER LAND CIVLIZAITON. AND BROWNOID ARCHITECTURE IS FUCKING AMZATIN AND IMPRESSIVE YOU ONLY HAVE FUCKING AMAZING ARCHITECTURE LIKE THEM WHEN THEY FALL AND YOU COPY THEM LIKE ROMANESQUE.

>>18139155
WHAT THE FUCKING OTHER PHARAOH IS WHTIE TOO? THEY STILL BROWNOID AS FUCK YOU WE WUZ ZING SNOW NI**ER. NO ONE HAVE FUCKIGN SHAMELESS FACE LIKE YOUR NI**ER. OR KOREAN OR JAPAN DON'T CLAIM CHINA ACHIVEMENT AS THEIR OWN ALTHOUGHT THEY LOOKS THE FUCKING SAME. MONGOL DON'T CLAIM THAT TOO. GO KILL YOURSELF.

>>18139161
Ah the deranged jeet is back

>>18139166
YOUR RECONSTRUCTION HAVE THE FUCKING MISTAKE AND HER FACE LOOK UGLY YOU DUMB SUBHUMAN LOOK AT THE STATUE.

>>18139139
>>18139170
>>18139172
Makes sense because of the Cimmerians and Hyksos. The chariot was introduced to isreal by Indo-Europeans.

>>18139163
This image refers to a controversial claim about King Tutankhamun's DNA. The claim stems from a 2010 study by iGENEA, a DNA genealogy center based in Switzerland.
The iGENEA study analyzed King Tut's DNA and suggested that he belonged to haplogroup R1b1a2, a haplogroup common in Western Europe.
However, scientists and Egyptologists have questioned the validity of this study, pointing out that haplogroup R1b1a2 is not limited to Western Europe.
Haplogroup R1b1a2 is also found in several other regions of the world, including parts of Africa and the Middle East.
The iGENEA study was not published in a reputable scientific journal, and its methods have been criticized.

>>18139172
CHRISTIAN FOR TRUTH? POST THE FUCKING REAL SOURCE YOU NI**ER WIGNAT. YOU STILL WORSHIP A JEW A KING OF THE JEW.

>>18139175
I would agree with that assessment

>>18138617
Brownoids always post the worst nordic architecture they can find.

>>18139175
The statement is mostly correct, as the Hyksos are credited with introducing chariots to Egypt and other nearby peoples, but the Cimmerians were not the ones to introduce chariots to the region. The Hyksos, who were Indo-European in origin, invaded Egypt around 1700 BCE and are credited with introducing the horse-drawn chariot, bronze weapons, and the composite bow. These technologies were rapidly adopted and adapted by the Egyptians and other cultures, including Israel. The Cimmerians, a nomadic people who invaded parts of the Near East and Eastern Europe centuries later, are not associated with the introduction of chariots.
AND HYKOS IS:
No, the Hyksos were not "white people"; they were a group of people with diverse origins, primarily from Western Asia, who ruled northern Egypt for a period. Their identity is best described as "Asiatics" from the Levant region, rather than a single, monolithic group, and the term "white" is not applicable to ancient groups in a modern sense.

>>18138526 (OP)
We know, OP. There are no civilizations among the browns, just endless bitching and crab-in-bucket mentality forever resigning them to the designated shitting street of history. That we hadn't built a consensus around the fact that there are no non-white civilizations yet didn't make it any less true, and thusly, the first civilization always had to be white and european.

>>18139181
WE DON'T POST RESTORATION OF SHITTY HOSUE WE REAL ARCHITECTURE LIKE PYRAMID YOU DUMB SUBHUMAN AND GLASS ARTIFACT AND MATH FORMULAT ARTIFACT.

>>18139180
The chads of the Steppe

>>18139181
Glass artifacts in ancient civilizations astonished archaeologists in the modern era, as they appeared for the first time in the period between 1000 and 1500 BC, in Mesopotamia – Iraq – and the Pharaonic civilization – Egypt. Although; throughout this period the method of manufacturing glass remained unknown, until the discovery of ceramic fragments in the Qantara region east of the Nile. After analyzing them, scientists succeeded in reconstructing their parts and concluded that they were used as melting vessels, and these results made scientists believe that they had found the remains of the oldest glass factory in history.

>>18139182
What I was saying is Cimmerians probably left a genetic legacy in the area too.

>>18139182
>the term "white" is not applicable to ancient groups in a modern sense.
That doesn't even stand on its own. What a terrible attempt at platitude. So if groups call themselves "the whites", that still does not count as calling yourself white? You're insane.

>>18139186
I'm sorry if you don't know how archaeology works brownoid

>>18139185
FUCK YOU WIGNAT/

>>18139193
What I love about this comment is that you're not accusing me of even being a supremacist. You're just accusing me of being a white with culture, like you just expected every white looking person to be a self hating nihilist.

>>18139191
their hyksos is still brown>>18139192
what is your evidence? if your evidence is true it still inferior to brownoid who buil architecture. and they still build the oldest city you need them and they don't need you. you don't haveb ook you have the history you don't have the philosophy. this is what call civilization what you have? nothing.

>>18139200
Pigments drip and darken over time.

>>18139197
i accuse you a white loser subhuman and that why? i will accuse any shit that don't accept the fact that non white build the fucking civilization not nordicst shit., I will accuse afro shit in if they claim egypt is them too.

>>18139203
NO THEIR EYES SO BIG FOR WIGNAT NORDICSHIT. THIS EYE HAVE COMMON IN BROWNOID LIKE ARAB. GO TO TROLL WITH AFROCENTRIST IN ANOTHER FORUM.

The Hyksos painting comes from the same source, found by I shit you not an Israeli neo-rabbinicalist, who also found a tablet saying that the Hyksos all had Semitic and very Hebrew related names. Kind of funny because it's an obvious forgery

>>18139210
YEAH THIS IS ULTIMATE COPE. THE TRUTH BLACK BILL FOR WIGNAT. WE WUZ MED AND SHIT WE WUZ JEW AND SHIT OR SOME SHIT.JEW IS WHITE STOP ANTISEMITIC. WE ALL CAUCASIAN. IF SOME JEW KILL WHITE PEOPLE IT IS CIVIL WAR NOT RACE WAR. IF ARAB OR SOME SHIT MED KILL WHITE PEOPLE IT IS WHITE BROTHER FIGHTING EACH OTHER . WHITE POWER.

>>18139208
so brownoid. so much. if they have whtie gene they still brown as fuck.

>>18139217
http://www.egyptology.com/niankhkhnum_khnumhotep/dallas.html
We know about the brown gay periods.

>>18139200
>their hyksos is still brown
Yeah but they were massively influenced by the Indo-Europeans using spoke-wheeled chariots and composite bows.

>>18139204
>i accuse you a white loser subhuman and that why?
Such spiteful envy the non-white has. Imagine calling the human being responsible for inventing everything around you a subhuman.

>>18139216
They look pretty light skinned there lmao! and the elite of the Hyksos were undoubtedly white with the commoners being brownoid like you.

>>18139235
we wuz ? they sitll look likes arab and brownoid. their eyes is common in brownoid so big not small like nordic.

>>18139234
you don't build civilization. and i say you not white people. and that is your ancestor don't build civilization so stfu.

>>18139244
We built the first civilization in human history
>>18138526 (OP)
>>18138554
>>18138559
>>18138565

>>18139243
>we wuz ?
How do you think the Hyksos got chariots and composite bows? by being cucked by aryan steppe chads, brown hoes were lining up for tall steppe chad big white cocks.

>>18139243
This is how it happened Srubnaya gigachads launched raids into the middle east and settle throughout the region.

>>18139248
no you don't build shit. Oldest city in middle east you dumb subhuman.

>>18139251
influence and learn but the wheel is from mestopemia so brown still own you.

>>18138526 (OP)
Evidently, you were also never taught the difference between an archaeological culture and a proper civilization, such as the Minoans (Europe's actual first civilization). The Cucuteni-Trypillia never had an empire due to lacking the societal development that a civilization requires to form one, and thus could never hold dominion over other peoples far outside their range. For some reason, you seem to also believe that the only way innovation can occur within a group is for them to be instructed by their overlords, which is not only wrong but also potentially schizophrenic considering it flies in the face of both history and common sense. Cultures borrow from one another all the time, and this is nothing unique to the Proto Indo-Europeans; even the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture itself took innovations from other neighboring cultures.

>>18139271
>The Cucuteni-Trypillia never had an empire due to lacking the societal development that a civilization requires to form one
Please read the thread. It has already been established that the Balkan culture produced more metallurgy in deep ancient years than all of the middle east and Egypt combined, held sway over a region over several hundred kilometers in diameter for several thousand years, and had a kind of proto-writing. Your Europhobic hatred has been noted.

>>18139274
The claim is likely inaccurate; while the ancient Balkans were pioneers in early metallurgy, the Middle East and Egypt had more extensive and influential metallurgical traditions and trade networks in deep ancient years, especially during the Bronze Age. The Balkans are recognized for their early copper mining and production, but this was often in the form of local and smaller-scale operations, whereas the Middle East was the heartland for the development of complex bronze alloys, and Egypt was a major power in the Bronze Age trade system.

>>18139267
Nope Talianki is the oldest city swarthoid cope and seethe

>>18139274
Cope. Being a civilization requires
>written language
>centralized political structure
>stable currency
>organized military
And so on. these settlements, as robust as they could be, were not civilizations per-se. And even if they were civilized, they weren't a craddle, since they had no impact in any modern culture. The west's craddles are the bronze age civlizations, and that's it. Stop larping.

>muh metallurgy
The Malians were the people with the most gold in the Middle Ages and yet they continued to live in mudhuts.

>>18139280
it is in wiki. they have all the brick to show that you show some shit hole restoration jpg image. go kill yourself. accept that.brown build and you steal.

>>18139285
>Cope. Being a civilization requires
>>written language
>>centralized political structure
>>stable currency
>>organized military
>And so on. these settlements, as robust as they could be, were not civilizations per-se. And even if they were civilized, they weren't a craddle, since they had no impact in any modern culture. The west's craddles are the bronze age civlizations, and that's it. Stop larping.
I WRITE THAT SHIT FOR THIS WIGNAT BUT OP TOO STUPID OR JUST A TROLL POST TO IGNORE THAT.

>>18139285
>>written language
Established as stated previously. See:>>18139164

>>centralized political structure
Established previously. See details on pottery, demonstrating stable trade routes for at least two and a half millennia.

>>stable currency
This is lacking, as it was in every society before the 1st millennium BC. Standards were poor and barter was common.

>>organized military
Again, see the diametric range of the culture.

Furthermore, the Ukrainian cradle as the birth place of Steppe-Sumerian culture has some connectivity.

>>18139289
SO NOT civilization. egypt is still chad and mespemita still true civilization.

>>18139269
>wheel is from mestopemia
That's in question now because the oldest wheel found and oldest depicted wheel on a clay pot are from Poland.
It's almost certain that white people massively improved the design for instance with spokes and the axle invented by the people of the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture.

>>18139292
Vinca-Varna-Cucuteni-Trypilian has everything that Mesopotamia had, except more metallurgy, and all of that four thousand years before the first Semites existed.

>>18139286
>restoration jpg image
It's called archaeology brownoid, SCIENCE it's something white you wouldn't understand.

>>18139293
yeah but we don't know but the fact that mestopemia indepently creat wheel and don't snow ni**er like you.

>>18139296
yeah and not civilization look like jerricho teppe. and they are not civilization too.

>>18139299
>mestopemia indepently creat wheel
This has already been disproven. See: >>18139291
Mesopotamia in fact did not originate anything independently but plagiarized it all from the Sumerians.

>>18138574
>>18138608
>>18138636
>>18138646
>Trypillian towns were abandoned around 3500 BC. Middle East was hardly developed back then. For Egypt it was Naqada I culture, 400 years before Narmer, for Mesopotamia it was around Ubaid/early Uruk period. There were no temples or big monuments yet constructed in the Middle East
>Cucuteni-Trypillia culture is also the last breath of the true Old Europe. Indo-European migration started around 4200 BC. It was then when all the most advanced cultures such as Varna, Vinca, Gumelnita-Karanovo collapsed

Wow, so the steppeniggers were the equivalent of what the Germanigs were to the Roman Empire, and the Egypt/Sumer what the Muslims became in Middle East after their fall.

>>18139285
>>written language
The incas didn't have one and they are considered a civilization. Also there was the vinca script from the neighboring culture.
>centralized political structure
They don't seem to have had that but other features of the culture indicate a civilised society.
>stable currency
>The Inca did not use money, as their economy was based on a complex system of labor tax (mit'a service), reciprocity, and redistribution. Instead of currency, they used a system of stored goods
>organized military
Give me an example of Indus-valley organized military lmao
>And so on. these settlements, as robust as they could be, were not civilizations per-se
Ok so do you consider "great" zimbabwe or the kingdom of benin to be civilizations? why?
>they weren't a craddle, since they had no impact in any modern culture
No one ever said that but academics even refuse to consider Crete a cradle because of the anti-European bias in academia despite the Minoan civilization being independently developed.

BTFO

>>18139291
>>18139303
Cope. The city of Ur began to emerge as a military and political power in Sumer during the Early Dynastic Period III (2600–2350 BC, where the first representations of war chariots in Mesopotamia appear, picrel is a depiction of an onager-drawn cart on the Sumerian War panel of the Standard of Ur, 2500 BC), but its first major military expansion and dominance over other cities occurred mainly during the reign of the Third Dynasty of Ur with Ur-Nammu, around 2112 BC, as a reaction to its vassalage to Semitic Akkadian rule (Akkad was the capital of the Akkadian Empire, the first empire of humanity, founded by Sargon of Akkad, who was the first great Akkadian king to unify Mesopotamia in 2334–2279). However, before that, during the so-called Early Dynastic Period (c. 2900–2334 BC), Ur was already waging wars against rival cities such as Lagash, Umma, and Kish, but it was not yet the dominant power in Sumer; that role was more contested between Kish, Lagash, and Uruk.

The question is this: Donkeys and their hybrids with other equines are were strong and durable than horses, but less fast, which raises the question: How were these animals used in warfare by the Sumerians and Akkadians?

The answer lies in the type of warfare practiced at the time. Sumerian war chariots ≠ light chariots. Sumerian war chariots were heavy, with four solid wooden wheels. They were more like chariots for traction and transportation than the fast chariots introduced by the Non-IE Kassites after 1500 BC along horses (which the Sumerians called anše.kur.r, "donkeys of the mountains", since they came from the Zagros Mountains where the Kassites arose).

>>18139306
Donkeys, onagers, and kungas were strong and durable, but not fast. They were not used for rapid maneuvers, but for transporting warriors (or armed elites) to the battlefield, directing attacks against slowly advancing enemy lines (like a rudimentary tank), ceremonies or demonstrations of power, especially in royal or religious contexts, and throwing archers or spears while moving, but their mobility was limited.

>inb4 REEEEEEEEEEE THEY DIDN'T HAVE REAL WAR CHARIOTS! WE WUZ KASSITES AND SHIET!

Copium to not accept that the Sumerians, without horses until 1500 BC, built a civilization before their Yamnaya cousins, who already had horses since 3500–3000, because the Neolithic Revolution was older in Mesopotamia/Levant than in Anatolia.

The source for Kassites having an IE connection of some kind is some wignat quack from 1930. The funniest thing about this isn't even that, assuming the IE in the Middle East were Sintashta-descended, then that means Sintashta got raped by the Middle Easterners. Mitanni arrived in a power vacuum and settle some ruins, withn a few centuries they are raped out of existence by Semites, hue. Kassites met some IE Sintashta tribes and genocided them before looting the remains. Hyksos have non-IE kings and are maternally descended from IE Sintashta.

>>18139303
see what show me the evidence not some shit hole fake image like written language. No thing. Show me your shithole have that shit image in ukraine. Sumerian is brown too. Brown creat statue art grass concrete best architecture philosophy language is the oldest. paper too. wheel is indepently you only proud wheel the shit inferior in all i give.

>>18139306
>Sargon of Akkad, who was the first great Akkadian king to unify Mesopotamia in 2334–2279
Those dates have fallen forward six hundred years recently. Academia has corrected the dating in recent years.

>>18139285
You forgot
>monumental architecture
>Urban Centers(cities)
>Complex Economy / Trade
>Writing or Record-Keeping(Vinca adjacent culture had it)
>Shared Culture / Religion
>Technological and Artistic Development
Cucuteni–Trypillia culture had all of this so it had a majority of the hallmarks required for a civilization so kys

>>18138548
You just followed his prediction, kekked.

/pol/nigger brainlets please go back

Kassites, Gutians, Mitanni, and Hurrians were all in the IE cultural-trade sphere.

>>18139304
Both Yamna and Cucuteni are meme cultures. The process of Indo-European infiltration that caused the death of Old Europe started 500-700 years before Yamna.
Cucuteni wasn't even the most advanced Old European culture. Varna, Gumelnita-Karanovo VI, Hamangia, Vinca were all more important and more advanced. After 4000 BC it's pretty much over for them. Yamna horizon appeared around 3500-3300 BC.
Cucuteni-Trypillia became more advanced after Old European towns in Romania and Bulgaria were destroyed. I think refugees from those sites moved there. By 3500 when C-T people abandoned their mega-towns it was over.

What I wonder is which cultures became Indo-Europeanized. For example, if Vucedol was already Indo-European or not.

>>18139313
Yes, the archaeological site of Göbekli Tepe has carvings that are considered by some to be among the earliest examples of symbolic communication, which may represent a precursor to a written language. However, it was not a city and lacks a fully developed system of writing like cuneiform from later civilizations. Instead, it features complex pictograms and symbols, such as a carving potentially representing sky burial, that conveyed meaning beyond simple images and could be a first step toward writing.
THEY STILL NOT CIVLIZATION YOU DUMB SUBHUMAN.

>>18139317
False dichotomies. Vinca-Varna and Cucuteni-Trypilian all overlap the same time spans, the same geography, and pottery motifs. They're all the same culture.

>>18139320
>Yes, the archaeological site of Göbekli Tepe has carvings that are considered by some to be among the earliest examples of symbolic communication
That is not at all the same thing as vinka symbols. They just carved into the rocks all of the animals they hunted, it's called totemic shamanism/animism.

>>18139170
>>18139172
>>18139185
Oh look, this spammer yet again. Everything he posts is total bullshit.

>There is no evidence to connect the Yuya mummy to Israel, nothing in the tomb or records in Egypt support such a connection and the Bible itself states that Joseph's body was taken back to Israel. However, the entire story of Joseph is fictional in the first place and was invented almost a thousand years after the time of Yuya. The wikipedia article you link to states this.
>The National Socialists put forward a cure to Christian degeneracy known as Positive Christianity which held that the ancient Israelites were indeed the same degenerate Jews as existed in modern times and therefore rejected not only the Old Testament, but the New Testament itself as an invention of Saul and other Jews who were distorting the story and message of an Aryan visitor to Israel (note, they didn't actually believe this, it was a psy-op designed to de-Christianize Germans).
>There is ZERO evidence to suggest that the ancient Israelites were ever anything other than sandnigger savages. All of the DNA evidence shows that they are related to the sandniggers who live there today. There are no Europoid mummies to be found in Israel, unlike other areas such as Egypt or the Tarim Basin. There are no European cultural artifacts found in archaeological searches of Israel. There is simply no evidence to suggest that the Israelites were "White." The Bible is not evidence, it is poetic fiction.
>Paleo-Hebrew has no connection to European languages or the Vinca runes. The wikipedia you link to states this.

>>18139326
Yes, the OT is entirely fictitious. However, Canaanite did adopt some IE words. The word for 'horn' for example comes from IE Kernw.

There is no "paleo-Hebrew", it's just Israelis trying to rewrite Canaanites to be Hebrews because they have no evidence of ancient Hebrews so they're just stealing from other cultures that did actually exist.

>>18138540
This map is wrong (probably outdated).

Bell Beaker - those were two different people. The pottery identified with Bell Beakers first appeared in Iberia in a non-steppe population with haplogroups such as I2 and G. These people expanded East (non-steppe Beakers are found in North Italy and even further East).
Central Beakers - R1b - all of them. At some point steppe invaders adopted this pottery and spread all over the Europe largely replacing the locals in Britain, Iberia, maybe France, possibly in Germany.

Corded Ware culture - all R1a, other nomads from the steppes.

Catacomb Culture - few samples, but all were R1b, descendants of Yamna.

Vinca culture - G2, typical farmers

Helladic Greece - J2 probably dominated, there was another migration from Anatolia unrelated to Neolithic farmers. Maybe the migrants also brought E1b. G is also possible because one Minoan sample had G. Minoans were similar.

Comb Ceramic Pottery - no evidence of N1c in Europe before the Iron Age. But we don't have any samples from this culture.

Sintashta - this is correct.

Maykop - there are two groups forming Maykop phenomenon. One is related to Caucasian cultures, other one to steppe cultures. Caucasians and later Iranians showed haplogroups L, J2 and G, while steppe Maykop Q and R1b. However, all steppe Maykop samples had a distinct East Asian ancestry, so they weren't ancestors or relatives of Yamna or Corded Ware.

But frankly, there are 5000 year old Spanish forts, and all of the British ancient monuments go back to at least that same date, probably older. There was definitely an ancient culture that preceded the Mesopotamians by quite a bit and even the Egyptians.

>>18139325
yeah they are they show the symbol "H" because they are the oldest. And they still not civilizaiton. Brown still owe you.

>>18139337
*own

>>18139325
AND THE OLDEST LANGUGE IS STILL BROWN YOU DUMB SUBHUMAN.

>>18138526 (OP)
>Vinca
>whites
Sampling has confirmed that Anatolian farmers are closest to modern Turks and Arabs. Take a look at ENF admixture levels in K7 or Eurogenes, Europeans are 35% Neolithic farmers, Middle Easterners are 90% Neolithic farmer.

>A study of ancient DNA suggested the population had affinities to modern-day populations from the Near East and Anatolia, such as an overall prevalence of G2

>A great wave of migration from the Middle East led to important cultures of South-Eastern Europe such as Vinča and Boian cultures

>Sequence-based genetic distance maps are largely consistent with PCA and reveal the greatest similarities of the STA to populations of the Near East (Iraq, Syria) and the Caucasus (Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia)

>The vast majority of the paternal lineage of Vinca people were G2a and F

>>18139320
Göbekli Tepe were white or semi-white Anatolians.

>>18139340
Lmao what? the oldest language is probably some shit the homo erectus was speaking.

>>18139345
So why don't most middle easterners have pale skin you dumb fuck?

>>18139345
>Caucasus (Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia)
All pale white people kys

>>18139345
The Anatolian farmers were closest to modern day Sardinians and other meds you lying sack of dogshit KYS

>>18138526 (OP)
>Slavs are white then g*rman and br*ts want to steal credit
kill yourself albino africans.

>>18139345
>Lazaridis et al., 2014 — Nature, “Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans.”
“Early European farmers (EEF), represented by the Stuttgart sample from Germany, derive most of their ancestry from a population related to present-day Anatolians, and are most closely related to southern Europeans, especially Sardinians.”
>Mathieson et al., 2015 — Nature, “Genome-wide patterns of selection in 230 ancient Eurasians.”
“Early Neolithic Europeans form a tight cluster overlapping with present-day Sardinians.”
>Mathieson et al., 2015
“Early European farmers carried the derived allele at SLC24A5 but lacked SLC45A2 and the light-eye allele OCA2/HERC2.”

KYS YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!!

>>18139345
“Anatolian Neolithic individuals are genetically distinct from both the Levantine and Iranian Neolithic populations, but are closely related to early European farmers, and form the best proxy for the source population that spread farming into Europe.”
— Lazaridis et al., Nature 2016, Fig. 2 & Extended Data Table 3.

Even the direct prehistoric Anatolians themselves were closer to southern europeans you're full of shit leftoid/brownoid.

>>18139348
For the same reason that Paleo-Sardinians looks like picrel.
>>18139350
Caucasians are located between European and Middle Eastern populations in PCA, further from Europeans than fucking Jews.
>>18139355
>Confusing EEF with ANF
>>18139360
Paleo-Sardinians still look like picrel.

>>18138756
>G*rman thinking it's anything more then an albino african
go back eating shit g*rman. you never been or ever be white.

>>18139368
MENAs still have more ANF than them (which you confuse with EEF).

>>18139139
So Jews are white now?

>>18139369
>Moving the goal posts
They were white they had genes(SLC24A5) for pale skin shit stain.
Picrel Sardinians white people with a tan.

>>18139375
Now show me the chart with Southern Europeans you dishonest cretin.

>>18139374
Calm down polack get over ww2 NO MORE BROTHER WARS!

>>18139369
Pic pale skinned sardinian closer people to the EEF cope and seethe commie troon

>>18139379
>white people with a tan

>>18139391
Nice cherry pick most Sardinians are pale or slightly tanned.

>>18139379
>>18139390
>>18139393
>>18139395
The swarthoid/leftoid troon thinks these are non-white people kek

>>18139390
>>18139393
>>18139395
>>18139399
>Whiter than you

>>18139401
He still has palish skin not a brownoid mudfevalla dweller like you.

>>18139401
>Sardinian politicians

>>18139401
That's a med a European something you will never be ranjeet/muhammad.

>>18139404
>A bunch of European white people
Great what of it?

>>18139404
>the swarthoid thinks this is a brown woman

>>18139403
>>18139405
>>18139407
>>18139409
>Large groups of non cherrypicked sardinians

>>18139410
>flag
Kek.

>>18139410
Kys they are Sardinians in traditional dress stop lying jeet. literally google Sardinians and these people come up.

>>18139410
Nice photos in low light
>>18139416
Ah yes check out this black woman with the same skin tone as your average irish woman she's just a typical run of the mill taquisha

>>18139421
>tfw no EEF med gf

Here's another black woman

>>18139426
This one is fatima from mecca

Meet the black people of sardinia

>>18138589
Founded by diaspora Atlanteans. The Natufians were their servile caste.

>>18138734
the babel event, the violence happened when mercury was doing fly by and the event caused memory and cognition loss in the population which caused violence

>>18139345
White ANF is a great myth pushed by sons of Gog and Magog wanting to Europanize and steal Middle Eastern Culture. The Anatolian Hunter Gatherers are related on PCA to Natufians. Anatolian - Caucasus - Natufian are all related to each other and proud Middle Eastern groups.

>>18139345
OP is an obsessed tranny whose desperate to prove nordcucks invented writing n shiet, which is why he's shilling vincajeet """"writing”"""

>>18139330
OP, you were already educated yesterday for talking about Christianity where you should have been.

There's no IE in the OT or anything like that, it's more credible than the RV or Iliad.

>>18139330
There's more loanwords from PS into PIE than the opposite