Thread 18142998

He knew conditions were dangerous. So why didnt he send away at least some of his kids overseas to preserve the line? Dude seems like an unfit ruler and father

>>18142998 (OP)
>be Tsar Nicholas II
>literally the Autocrat of All Russia, ruling by divine right
>your entire legitimacy is based on God-appointed dynasty
>sending your family away makes you look weak, tells the people the dynasty is finished
>also, no foreign royals are offering asylum, they're all your cousins and they're scared of the spread of revolution
>abandoning your post and splitting the family is the most un-tsar, un-father thing you could do
>you stand with your family and your people, right or wrong

He was a man trapped by his own duty. PBUH.

>>18143009
>He was a man trapped by his own duty. PBUH.


looks more like an incompetent father who refused to accept the reality of the situation. He was about to be deposed, he was already weak.

>>18143009
>tells the people the dynasty is finished
He and his brother did that already, when Nick abdicated, and then his retard brother gave control of the country over to weak fledgling social democrats while offering them no support.

Tsar nick was ABSOLUTELY unfit to be a ruler. That doesn’t make the bolsheviks right, it doesn’t make his murder right, but this is the sort of shit that historically does happen to bad leaders. Sorry.

>>18143024
He made a retarded fucking error when he allowed the russian people to bully him into mobilizing against Austria. Russia had NO FUCKING RIGHT, the serbs were like israel is today. They had massacred hundreds of thousands of innocent balkan muslims, they stole a huge amount of land from Bulgaria and greece, and they had murdered MULTIPLE hapsburgs, not just franz. Tsar nicholas made a grave, grave fucking error by starting that war, and it led directly to his own death. He absolutely was an unfit leader, like mussolini.

>>18143052
It made no strategic sense for them to fight for Serbia, right?
This was for them similar to the French crown supporting the American Revolution?

>>18143115
>This was for them similar to the French crown supporting the American Revolution?

and it led to France becoming bankrupt and culminated in French Revolution. Maybe Tsar should have learnt from that?

No one knew how disgusting communists really were yet. You couldnt imagine they would murder children. Communism was effectively the ISIS of the 20th century. Its easy to look back and say “yea these people are depraved and have no bottom and will destroy everything they touch”, but before they show their true colors its hard to actually believe the extreme danger is real.

>>18143154
People underestimate the nastiness of the far left. Consider the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War, who were worse than the commies but who are treated by some Westerners as heroes.

>>18142998 (OP)
>He knew conditions were dangerous.
Conditions were not dangerous before the revolution and after that they were already imprisoned
>So why didnt he send away at least some of his kids overseas to preserve the line?
Nobody in the family wanted to be separated, and they met their death together

>>18143154
....so anyway that's why billionaires deserve to own everything, ok leftychud?

>>18143171
NTA.
That's a False dichotomy.
And in practice, the Bolshevik victory led to Russians being enslaved by violent psychopathic bureaucrats.

>>18143171
Why are you billioinairophobic?

Why do rightoids always expect people to feel bad for the killing of some inbred despot who caused the deaths of millions of people? Yea killing the family was fucked up, but you niggas make fun of the holocaust, stfu lmfao.

>>18143171
Sounds like the logical leap of someone who thinks men can become women

This guy did not make a lot of tactically or strategically good decisions.
I don't think he was a bad father in a malicious way, but yeah he got everyone killed by being pretty inept.
It's so hard, the russian people were so shit on that all you had to do was say "Peace, Land, Bread" and channel some hope and you were a contender.

>>18143206
>some fags chop their cocks off
>and that's why blackrock should buy every plot of land in America
Incredible.

>>18143212
> blackcock out of nowhere
What's your problem with Blackcock? Are you so obsessed because not packing much whiteboi?

>>18143212
>you have to cut your dick off or blackrock will buy every house in america
Not sure I follow. Pretty easy to deal with billionaires without communism

>>18143231
Name a single right wing ideology that ever does anything other than give more power to billionaires.

>>18143231
>pretty easy to deal with billionares
conservatives do everything to keep billionares in power

>>18143231
>just two more weeks of kicking up infinite money to a handful of grabblers
>trust me bro the last thing we should do is anything at all

>>18143244
This is a midwit take. Ever heard of National Conservatism? They literally want to use state power to break up globalist corporations and protect national industry from the billionaire class. It's the WEF and their open-border capitalism that billionaires actually love. You're conflating all right-wing thought with libertarianism.

>>18143009
He was just a dumbass.
He should've just won.
Simple.

>>18143198
Why commies worship a mystery meat despot that caused the deaths of many more millions?

Friendly reminder that more russians died during Civil War than WWI
Also reminder that there were no famines under Nicholas II rule, yet millions died of starvation under genius communist rule

>>18143254
See this is what I'm talking about. Foreign billionaires are bad so you cut them off, but native (nonjewish) billionaires are totally cool so you just give all foreign assets to them. Don't say "protect national industry from the billionaire class" when native billionaire industrialists literally own all the fucking capital. Don't get me wrong, autarky is better than globalized capitalism, but you're just turning a big pool of diverseteh billionaires into a smaller pool of white billionaires. Rightwing idpol is still just idpol at the end of the day, it's always used to distract the proles from their real enemy, and every historic example of "national conservatism" did nothing but empower wealthy landowners and sprinkle in some social conservatism as a treat.

>>18143265
> there were no famines under Nicholas II rule
gigacope

>>18143052
>innocent balkan muslims
Stopped reading, you worship a pedophile.

>>18143265
>worship
No Gods no masters, we don't worhip jackshit, you niggas venerate a man who hired an inebriated "mystic" to fuck his wife while he played dress-up and pretended to be a military genius lmfao
>Friendly reminder that more russians died during Civil War than WWI
Because of the western aid that funded to the "white" army (a bunch of disparate and unorganized nobodies who would've been easily crushed without the west bankrolling them)
>Also reminder that there were no famines under Nicholas II rule
You dumbass there was literally a famine every 5 years under that incompetent faggot, the Soviets had a few major famines directly caused by brutal civil war and the largest invasion in history and then never had one again after 1947 which is something none of the Romanovs could ever accomplish

>>18143009
>Incompetent retard crash and burns a 400+ year dynasty due to his own ineptitude and misrule
>Gets (literally!) idolized for it by a bunch of retards 100 years later
It's genuinely baffling, even from a pro-Monarchy perspective. Nicholas II was a disasterous ruler by any metric, even without any revolution his reign would only have been marked by TWO humiliating military defeats for Russia, there's fuck all redeemable about this guy in his role as Tsar.

>>18143265
>mystery meat
Lenin's ancestry is pretty vanilla for Russia, American racists projecting their own cultural retardations onto Russia always miss the mark by a kilometer lol. If your so into blood lines and the Tear, you ought to also know that they had Tartar blood as well and the Russian aristocracy was a whole hodgepodge of assorted Russified peoples

>>18143300
To be fair the ROC is just blatantly retarded even moreso than most other Christian sects, they exist purely as a tool of the state and will say/do whatever gives the state more legitimacy. I mean ffs their patriarch is literally an ex-KGB agent.

>>18143312
Yeah the Russian Church has been blatantly a government propaganda organ since like the 1600s at this point

>>18143009
He abdicated the throne, retard
He failed at his duty and fucked up everything already. Why don't think about what's left - the family?

This thread has shown me that communists are retards. Their answer to any legitimate criticism of the far left. is "Muh billionaires".

>maybe you shouldn't kill innocent people
"That's because you want billionaires to run everything "

>can you just not give HRT in kindergarten?
'Why are you complaining about us doing this when you should be complaining about billionaires? They are your real enemies. This is just a distraction. Now let's us give them HRT"