Thread 7708039

is 24 too old to get good at art? Atleast to pic rel level of skill by 30s. Or atleast as good as spazkid3d? How many boxes do I need to draw?
ik toriyama started at 26 so there may be hope.

Yes. You're decades too late, no one here started after the age of 4. Give up and stop posting here

>>7708039 (OP)
its never too late. just show up and put the practice in. have good role models, reach out for critique, and apply. 24 to 30 years old is a lot of time to get good.

how does your work look now?

>>7708039 (OP)
It depends on what you want to draw. If you aim for a style like Slam Dunk or Berserk, it might be a bit late. Better listen to the story of an animator who started at 25 — maybe it will motivate you. They’ve even shared some of his material on ic video courses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTvT7GzocRQ&t=46s

>>7708039 (OP)
Depends what your goals are, if it's to draw nice pinups and get the occasional commision no, you can do that until you're pretty much at deaths doorstep.
If it's to make your primary income through retirement from "drawing" then 24 is a late start but not impossible, the point of no return is probably around 30 since the benefits of compounding interest start to taper off there unless you plan to somehow work fulltime and grind art into your 70's and die quickly.
If it's to become the next Miura/Toriyama then yes, to reach the elite tier you need to start early (3-4), have a support network/mentor, genetics to handle 18+ hr work days, and family access to education (training) not to mention .
>>7708039 (OP)
pic related skill wise you could get there in 3-4 years if you know how to study.

>>7708075
no way he got to this level in 2 years. He went to doujinshi webcomic level from scratch.

>>7708107
>doujinshi webcomic level
Do you have any idea how meaningless this phrase is?

>>7708075
>It depends on what you want to draw. If you aim for a style like Slam Dunk or Berserk, it might be a bit late.
What about things like Soul Eater or FullMetal Alchemist? It's a nice stylized look that can switch do end up detailed when it need to while avoiding the jankyness and often ugly look of things like Attack on Titan or Chainsawman

>>7708225
Soul Eater art style is ugly af. Why would you wanna draw like that on purpose?

>>7708225
Cut your dick off yet gabe?

>>7708039 (OP)
If you want to draw like picrel sorry but you’re ngmi with that shit taste

>>7708225
oh no it's Gabe and his Soul Eater obsession

In "Fundamentals of Piano Practice" Chuan C. Chang claims that individuals up to age 35 have the potential to become what she calls "concert level pianists" i.e the top 1% of pianists, and she blames the inability of older people to reach those heights mostly on psychological factors like stress and performance anxiety. Drawing and piano are two different skills of course, but my point is that you shouldn't be dissuaded by stories of Asian kids who've been drawing since before they could talk. If you start drawing today and take practice seriously you WILL get good eventually. You could even get really good if you wanted

These posts are just inspiration bait. Everyone who works in the arts professionally knows people who entered late, sometimes even in old age.

it's never too old if you have talent

>>7708418
TRVTHNUKE
>>7708107
Lmao first time seeing talented artists show off? If you have talent you can do anything you want.

>>7708418
you sound 35+

>>7708533
nta but I am, and I completely disagree.

>>7708557
yeah at your age it's basically too late for you to improve

I'm turning 24 and I feel ancient already. I've never even really lived and I already feel like I'm running out of time.

>>7708421
> Someone used one of my shitty scribbles to shitpost
Bros... Is this what making it feels like.

>>7708421
>>7708604
well shitpost or not this + 6 years of good practice is enough to get decent results

>>7708039 (OP)
This is a very low skill ceiling. You could get here in a year.

>>7708773
well, are you at that level?

>>7708775
I don’t draw gooner tranime slop so no

>>7708789
>I don’t draw

I wasn't expecting as much.

>>7708039 (OP)
This nigga has a patreon with 10k members. Each member pays him 4.5 Euros/Dollars a month. This means he makes more than 45k a month. Most of his art is traced background + current popular characters + a "hidden" joke to make the toddlers feel smart. He pumps out a piece every second/third day or so. This i what the audience wants. THIS is how you make it.

>>7709399
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THATS ALOT OF FUCKING MONEY. So 4-5 years of consistent practice you say?

>>7709399
which book will teach me to draw a piece every day? I don't have that kind of mental fortitude.

>>7708039 (OP)
No. The brain doesn't stop developing at a specific age; rather, brain development is a complex, ongoing process that continues into the mid-20s, with some sources suggesting it can extend to the late 20s, 30s or even later than that into adulthood, particularly for the prefrontal cortex, which is crucial for decision-making and impulse control. While the brain reaches about 90-95% of its adult size by age 6, it continues to "rewire" and mature through adolescence and into the mid-20s.
This means you have constant potential to develop new skills and improve on old ones. However, it may feel like progress gradually loses momentum as you continue forward but that doesn't mean your capacity for improvement is stunted. It's more of an illusion brought about by familiarity, aka boredom.

tldr Your brain is always changing and theres no cap on what you can achieve. Keep it up.

>>7708039 (OP)
>24
pretty old for starting. it will took10-15 years just to achieve a decent level. picrel is an extremely good pro level artist, you'll never be as great as him, those types of artists get good really fast. he liked my drawing a few months ago

i didnt start drawing seriously until i was 8 years old. up to that point it was just toddler doodles and lazy low effort coloring. i wish i had started earlier and stopped convincing myself everything i did was ok just because it was "fun", i wasted so many years of improvement

>>7708583
>>7709715
pic related is my drawing, I copied the image on the left, it took me 15 minutes but I was taking my time. I'm 29 years old, and I've drawn casually on and off over the past 6 years. What do you think?

i "started" at 3 drawing human insides found in some alternative medicine book, does it count?
but later i hated all art lessons in school. maybe if someone showed me how to observe and copy cocks and tiddies correctly, i'd have fun with a pencil

>>7709781
It's a chicken scratch study. Your potential is below average, most likely you won't make it (90-95%). Drawing takes too much time, it's a long process, even talented people quit art. I know a Japanese artist who started at 30, now he's a pro trad artist, but such cases are super rare. Get real, your chances are extremely low.

>>7709795
>I know a Japanese artist who started at 30, now he's a pro trad artist
What's his name?
>It's a chicken scratch study
I'll try stop doing that

>>7709795
pyw crab

>>7709799
>>7709799
>What's his name?
@theseiji2
>>7709800
I've got enough stalkers

>>7709822
>I've got enough stalkers
you're not important, dude.

>>7709835
then shut the fuck up and stop replying

>>7709839
make me? the fuck?

beg nodraw thread

>>7709781
People generally don't want to post their full completed pieces on here, because it's traceable back to you. That being said that's why like everyone else what you have here is a sketch. You can't tell from that sketch you posted what your lineart is like in a completed piece, or what that piece would look like actually colored (even colored black and white). A lot of people are really good at sketching, but can't keep up that skill level in a completed piece (don't be like that. That's where you don't want to be.). You have a good understanding of proportions. You pretty much copied the reference in that regard (the reference does make use of a stronger jaw line to give an edgier less cutesy look, but I'm not sure that would work in your drawing (she'd just look horse jawed) unless you were exactly copying the line work as well, because the line work is integral there), but the question with a sketch is if you have any understanding why the reference picture works as an image, what it is trying to do, and what you would need to do to achieve the same effect. Most artists aren't going around asking themselves those questions constantly. If they have a character, story, vibe they're going for, and/or consistent style they know what they need to do to make their shit work for that purpose. If you can render properly and output fast enough, your art is good enough now with the right strategy you could get a following. Most of art success is strategy and a threshold of some amount of skill (which you've likely met provided your full pieces don't look awful, and you can follow a full body to that degree of accuracy with decent line art).

>>7708039 (OP)
24 is to old? people are living to their 100s, and you think 24 is to old?
nothing wrong is with starting later than others, i mean i would have rather started when i was a baby but thats not the cards i was handed
here's some wisdom
no one is gonna give a shit if you started late if you're a good artist when you're 60

>>7709904
>people are living to their 100s
And get dementia in their 50s.

>>7709781
I think you're trying to copy a pen and ink drawing on a tiny digital screen and saying one will never be as great as him if you start at 24.
Clowns belong in the circus.

so what was the conclusion of this thread?

>>7709904
millennials are terrified of being in their 30s, they think their life is over at that point. for some reason that is "old" to them. even though boomers were considered middle aged starting at 40. I don't know how you can be "old" if you aren't even middle aged yet.

>>7712823
generic bait + khyleri image = easy replies

>>7708039 (OP)
That's a south east asian that traces his shart. Buy an AD

>>7713593
>millennials are terrified of being in their 30s
millennials WERE terrified of being in their 30s
now the youngest millennials are 30

>>7708604
Sorry bro, I thought this image was a troll initially

>>7709715
>pro level
Laffin

I cant draw fanart because I don't like anything anymore. I cast it all aside to learn how to draw, and now I have no ideas.

>>7714556
>I cast it all aside to learn how to draw


Crazy. Not a single day has gone by in the calendar year for the last 20 years that I haven't engaged with anime. Not one. Not a single day of detox.

>>7714562
anime has been shit for the past ten years so what the hell have you been watching?!

>>7714571
Not true and it's a shame you could not enjoy the last 10. You'll look back at these simpler times.