Thread 7766036

On a break and browsing /ic/?
Let's talk for a minute, then get back to work.

Try to keep discussion on-topic.

In order to succeed at art, doesn't it make more sense to crab others? There's a finite amount of resources/jobs to go around, wouldn't less competition be better?

>>7766068
Doesn't matter if you're good
The effort you spend crabbing id better spent on improving and producing more

>>7766068
That was my mentality at first. Eventually you realize that you can't catch up with those who are ahead and those who are behind can't catch up to you, with a few exceptions, and assuming you aren't a nodraw retard, so I stopped minding helping others. You also realize that it doesn't matter how much golden advice and help you give others, 99% won't listen or will quit anyway, not worth the effort of crabbing.

Also it feels nice to have some bros on the journey that can inspire you to try harder, it's been pretty barren lately, with everyone giving up or getting crabbed out of the hobby.

I'm currently at that point where I feel like I'm crawling out of total beg and starting to get results that please me, but also entering that loop of "the more I know, the more I realize how little I know", which can be a bit discouraging. This is also coupled with a mixed feeling of me seeing leaps in progress, but my art still being far from where I want it to be, so I'm never fully proud of what I make.
It's not like I'm despairing and about to give up or anything, but it's a frustrating feeling of certain powerlessness, and was wondering if others have felt that way and how they got over it.

>>7766068
While your success is surely someone else failure, someone else failure doesn't imply your success.

You can be the best crab in the world, but if you suck, you suck.

>search for my name on Danbooru out of curiosity
>more than 30 images associated with the tag
>"Wow!"
>only one isn't in the "deleted" section
>they were all uploaded by the same user
>one of them has a comment saying, "stop uploading this Western crap"
I'm glad you like my art, my friend, but even I know my stuff isn't good enough to be there.

I draw too much. is to the point is embarrassing. I draw like 8 hours daily and the only thing I do with my life is draw and study a bit and sleep 4 hours. I wonder what my followers think with me posting an full blown illustration every 12 hours.

Worst part is probably a lot of people think I use AI, that upsets me just a tiny bit, specially because I can get bored of drawing on a singular style and change on a whim. If I did not draw so much on public boards I think I would be fucked, I have tons of eye witness to the fact that yes, is all me and I'm just a no-life loser who only does a singular thing with his life.

>>7766156
this will be my cover story for when people accuse me of photobashing AI (which I am)

>>7766162
You don't get bored? this sounds so boring. Drawing is fun, cheating on it just ruins the whole experience for me and just makes a frustrating experience and exercise on futility. If you are not enjoying the process and doing all by yourself what is even the point of photobashing the AI pictures? just post the AI pictures.

>>7766166
>Drawing is fun
Nta, but drawing is fun when you are good.

I can't stop fapping to my own art.

>>7766170
See? that's the problem. you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. Good compared to whom? The people on social media? the old masters, the slop machine?

Why you are not good enough, anon? And who decided that but yourself. Is one of the reason why I tend to dislike social media even if seeing the numbers go up is fun, at some point it just becomes that, you lose the sight of what is enjoyable in the craft and the point of improving, it becomes about dumb stupid fucking metrics that in the end of the day don't mean anything, specially if a good 1/3 of those are bots. You end up giving up to the this sorta of stupid impure desire and do dumb shit like doing anything you can to outperform anyone, but becomes a miserable cunt in the process, is really even worth it?

Just be better than what you were yesterday, or a week ago, or just try to do new things and improve by itself. You are already good enough, you just need to try to become better and try to have fun while you do it and enjoy the pain, if you are in pain over something like that it only shows how much you care, and that's good, right?

>>7766179
I never looked too much at the numbers on social media, but I do recognize how slow my improvement is, or how bad I am for many things, like perspective, figure drawing, digital painting... It doesn't get in my head...

>>7766202
Even slow improvement is an improvement. eventually things just click and you will see it was all worth it.

Spent all day icing my hands and resting them to no relief until I saw a Rippetoe video where he says "Do twenty sets of neutral chinups"...

I drew for 2hrs completely pain free and finished the piece I was moping over not being able to work on.
He's the real fucking deal holy shit, even talked smack about doctors

>>7766175
It's tough isn't it? I'd like to draw beautiful women without giving in to lust.

>>7766376
>I'd like to draw beautiful women giving in to lust.

>>7766068
You'll fuck up one day and piss someone off enough that they'll fuck you over tenfold.

>>7766068
if you are actually good at what you do, competition should be a non issue

>>7766156
>draws 8 hours daily
>can change styles when ever you feel like
am impress more people need to have that work ethic like you do

>>7766156
I really don't understand how people manage to do this. Don't you feel mentally tired after an hour? I feel like I studied math for hours.

>no-life loser who only does a singular thing with his life
At least you achieved something. I only have a long list of failures and regrets.

>>7766887
Not even close, I go out of my way to multitask while I draw, like listening to audiobooks or lectures. In college I can only pay attention to class if I'm drawing something. I find one of the most enjoyable activities in the world.

I think it helps me achieve flow somehow, maybe you are so preoccupied with getting everything right you can't enjoy the creative process.

>>7766860
Thanks, But I don't get it why changing styles is a high work ethics practice. I just get very inspired by some artists and I try to copy what they do. In a way I'm just greedy.

I think if I focused only on one thing I would be much much better at this singular thing, but I do have a ton of fun experimenting and trying new things.

There's a black dude DMing me on DeviantArt requesting the same thing over and over again. I just thought it was funny. Feel free to fulfill his wish.

>>7766156
Be careful not to get burnt out.

>>7768204
Can't he afford a GPU?

>>7766677
That will never happen if your a pro crabber.

Too sick to draw (or get anything done) today, life sucks

any tips for getting more traction on social media? I'm on Instagram, and I try to interact with other fellow artists, leave a like and comment, I post regularly, etc. What else can I do besides get some bots or other shit like that?

I heard that if you listen to music while you draw that y

>draw
>man this sucks so bad ill never get better
>sleep
>wake up
>draw again
>its not as hard as i thought
>repeat forever

I've been experimenting with brush pens lately, specifically the pentel brushpens that are in every generic artstore and fude pens

>Ink flow constantly runs out
>redoing the same stroke hoping that it will actually come out
>extremely light touch
>pentel pens needs me to squeeze hard
>fude pen comes out extremely saturated if I squeeze the same amount

I like drawing with them because of how thin and thick you go, however finding the right balance and hoping I'll get the right stroke frustrates me a lot. I'm not the perfect artist- not even adequate- but working against your media can really be annoying. I've returned to digital and now see how timid and short my strokes are compared to when I was working with a micron pigma/ ballpoint pen/ felt tip pens. I thought for sure I'd get a glow up like I did then.

>>7766036 (OP)
Im /beg/ and have been staying up late drawing 4 to 6 hours a night for the past week
Im taking tonight off to adjust my sleep

>>7769490
Just did 2hrs 40 mins of drawing and correcting my timid lines and learning to trust that I will get consistent flow showed me the much improved control I have over my lines! Also I'm not using pencil this year so what a blessing erasing an unwanted stroke feels like; to no longer have to go with the flow of a mistake and get rid of it all together, sometimes I forget that I am drawing with a handicap. Lately I've been busy with work so the only real drawing I'd get is with the brushpens on top of trying to do inktober (failed immensely) getting mad at my lack of improvement drawing things over and over again... Digital feels like butter even if it's harder to control lines.

Habits just don't work for me. I drew every day for months and when i stop for one day, I forget how to make myself start drawing.

>>7768860
Halloween is coming up. Throwing something in the wind might not be so bad, you might get picked up by the spooky category. Same for Christmas.

>>7769614
adhd

>>7769614
get some meth that will help

>>7769490
try using one of those watercolor pens that you fill with water, except leave it empty and just dip the tip in ink
Makes a VERY sharp point and the brush is practically indestructible
You can also just cap it and use it the next day no harm done

>>7768860
Shill in other places like discord. post links to your art wanner you can in any places you can as much as possible. have multiple platforms were you post in parallel to maximize your reach. Appeal to niches and milk them as much as possible, focus on fan art of current popular series with dedicated fanbases while appealing in parerel to niche fanbses to multilayered support.

Keep a few close friend circles that only exist to boost your followers, like friends that have just a bit more followers than you that can share your stuff but not enough were they have a high chance of ignoring you, my rule is 1.5x followers. Keep a handful of underlings with way less followers than you for similar reason. even if you have 1000 followers if you have 10 simps with 200 followers you are nice time to time and trow a bone it will build up overtime, is about maximizing reach.

Personally I also like to use an information net using base egregorians that I created to keep people under my sphere of influence also, but maybe that's a bit too esoteric and schizo to be useful for the avarage guy. I will keep it simple and say having a strong brand and attaching your personality to it is very very useful, because people you relate you to your work and will see anything you do as part of an individual, that is what actually appeals to people in art.

>>7769657
I take weekly drawing classes and we've talked about supporting each other on social media with my classmates. The problem is, they're all retards who don't know how to work the algorithm. Whenever they post something I'll share it, save it, repost it, like and leave a comment. I have them as favorites so whenever they post I see it straight away. But then I'll post something and maybe a few days later they'll like it. Kinda sucks. I'd love to be able to build a support circle like you mention.

>>7766036 (OP)
I dread making art, because I have some kind of ADHD, and a lot of work at university, to boot with everything else. I need to work perfectly on time.
This means I can't have my routine chaotic, but I need enrichment.

So all of this eventually leads to obsession with progress, because "sure if I can't have a varied and rich day, let's at least make this whole routine worthwhile", but it's never worthwhile.

I'm used to big jumps and here I got a fucking slugging match with life and it's driving me a little angry that I could wrestle with anything if it's happening quickly, but go mental if I have to repeat the same motions every single day.

I know it will work, it's just that my soul doesn't trust that, so every day I'm bleeding mental stamina.

Critics and consumers are always the most pretentious and worthless elements of any hobby. Just a bunch of nodraw cretins stroking their beards at the works of people who can actually put in work, and using them as a tool to assert their own intellect and taste.

I wonder if I am merely too genetically disinclined to artistic pursuit to be successful in it. I see people in another thread say they regularly draw for many hours each day, but it was always a struggle for me to hit 3-4 hours consistently even when I had nothing else going on in life.

Lately I haven't really been able to draw at all, just can't bring myself to. Not that it matters, I've only ever been able to spam studies to no end, the second I try to create, it all falls apart. I suspect I lack the creative gene to truly express myself, or I have ADHD or some other such condition that doesn't give me enough dopamine from drawing to regularly engage in it.

I was worried that my one off MDMA use a month ago might have cooked my brain or something, but I feel fine otherwise and I now realize my brain was cooked all along, I just didn't want to accept it. Years of time spent on this hobby with little to show.

It's all so tiresome.

Can I even catch up or get halfway decent as someone who started at 18 a few years back compared to all the best artists who nearly universally started earlier? There's only so much time left...

I hate posting my art/sketches as it feels so exposing, everytime i draw i spend about an hour going back and forth with myself on whether or not i should post is somewhere and its a coin flip whether or not i do, i know it doesn't really matter yet i cant help it.

I don't know what's got into me lately, but every drawing I start has felt like a chore. I don't mind the grind but it's the consistent displeasure of not being able to draw anything that is appealing. I'm beginning to feel the weight of all the years I spent trying to learn to draw from imagination with nothing to show for it, and when I don't draw I begin to experience a form of guilt.
>You're drawing but your not happy and you wonder if you're wasting your time and chalk that off to with feeling burn out.
>You take a break and don't draw and begin to feel depressed
What's happening to me.

>>7770725
Even if it took decades to get really good, which it doesn't, you'd still have time easily. Of course if someone is going at full throttle and has started earlier than you, you can't beat them but just the same you can always be better than artists than started after you did. Given you have the talent and means of course. I think the great filter is just that for someone to start drawing after their formative years and draw a ton is very rare. A brutal blackpill is how much you will be left behind if you can't make art into a job right away. Everyone else will be drawing 8 hour days minimum, art as their sole focus. It's also such a mind fuck that if you drew an hour everyday on average from like 14 to 20 you'd be likely nearing pro level if you weren't totally just diddling around. It's not even just time since you learn during the night so it's compounded by just the sheer amouny of sleep cycles. My favorite things to think about when procrastinating to destroy my already weak mental yipee

>>7770725
You've already lost if you're thinking like that.

>>7770725
Artskills plateau after certain point. there is honestly a limit of how good you can get and after certain level it just becomes how well you use the tools you already have in your belt, like stylization and aesthetic. That incredibly subjective.

The reason why people who started early and from childhood take so long to get good is exactly because they started too early and are probably self taught. A child would never understand or have the proper cognitive skills to now what to improve, so they often improve at snailpace. At least it was like that for me.

I would say the avarage joe will take 5 to 7 years to become a true master. +3 years trying to find what he actually want's to do unless you are aiming to something really really ambitious like mastering every single style possible from ultra cartoony and abstract to ultra photorealistic. In all honesty, if all you want to do is just draw naked anime girls standing in the void it would take you something like 3 to 4 years tops. (with the right study and training regime)

I bought an Android tablet years ago so I can draw digitally while traveling (for work)
I still feel like it's impossible for me to do anything decent on it

idk why. I'm using the same brushes and everything but I use it and think
>I wish I was at home
>using my home tablet at my desk
It's just different

>>7766068
depends on what you mean by success. if it's a studio job working 9-5 (lol good luck finding that) then sure, since there's a finite amount of those around.
otherwise you're better off spending your time researching a market and making a product targetting a specific niche. in different niche hobbies and interests there's often only a handful of artists servicing that group regularly, or you get the dynamic of one bigger name artist and a handful of smaller ones. you don't really gain anything by crabbing other artists in these situations but you definitely can lose a lot.

>>7766068
yes and the best way to crab is praise
praise someone for their mistakes and you might just make them stagnate for years

>>7771919
I had something similar, I honestly think standalone tablets just kind of fucking suck?

Caleb Arty uploaded a new video today, now I can draw clothes.

I was browsing some 3D jobs, when for the very first time, a listing for an AI intern popped up.
The job was in Tel Aviv.

>decide to go back to trying to make music
>open up the program I had downloaded
>version is from 2018
Fuck, I feel old. I could be SOMEWHERE if i managed to keep going.

>>7772868
>look at the modified date of some reaper scripts i wrote
>3 years ago
>i probably spent more time customizing it than making music in the short time i tried to get into music
fucking shit

I am reminded why I hate posting to discord servers. Such a vapid activity full of 2 faced actors and conniving admins.

After upgrading from Windows 10 Education to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, I had to manually recalibrate my monitor for the first time in years. Now, I'm paranoid because many of my drawings don't look the same.

>>7772933
>>7772868

i still haven't made a full song...

>>7773654
plus now you have AI spying on you 24/7. Thank God I'm in Europe where they've given us Win10 support for another year. I'm switching to Linux before then

>>7774064
it just so happens my old pc is acting funny the moment support ran out like it keeps freezing. this shit sucks. i’m gonna buy another optiplex but with the best upgrades it can offer and stick with that for a few more years and if the internet gets so unusable in the future then so let it be i’ll just keep my pc offline.

>>7774064
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC has no AI and is supported until 2032.

>>7773654
Every monitor device is different (even same model) and needs calibration with expensive equipment.
Don't worry about your old drawings being different, as you were never visualizing them correctly in the first place.

>>7774064
Everytime I tried Linux it was driving me insane, but also I don't know how many things I will miss that I have on Windows.

I went to Window 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC a year ago. They don't even sell it, I don't know why Microsoft want to fuck up everything.
Hopefully Windows 12 will be fine, as I want to skip 11 altogether.

>>7774111
>Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC
I'd never heard of this before, thank, I'll keep it in mind

I caught a cricket in a plastic water bottle and have been observing her for a week, feeding her oatmeal/water. Today, I guess due to excessive grooming from stress, she tore her hind legs off and I feel really bad now.

But I tell myself this cricket was a pest who came into my house to eat my food and poop and pee everywhere. And it's not like I'm intentionally torturing her, I want to observe her but I'm not going to spend money on an enclosure for a pest I was gonna squish. What would you do? Should I feel bad?

>>7774210
release it back outside asshole. there is a bird that’s hungry.

>>7774210
people did this all over the world you aren't special. I remember that my grandpa, back when he was younger, used to catch mice from our garage and put them in jars with air holes and some grain for a day or two, to observe what they would do.

Humans are just weird like that, we like to experiment with what we can get away with.

I havent drawn in 3 days and every time I try to start, my brain fogs up and gets stuck. Like I have to draw something worth 4 days of wasted time.

>>7774210
I caught a small moth that burned its leg and wing off on a candle and couldn't do anything but spaz around upside down, I thought it was dead but it started doing that when I tried to grab it, kept in a bottle for a bit so it didn't fall, I was wondering why people thought they were retarded insects, maybe that's what they meant. I also caught a dead bee and did a few studies of it. Also found a dead sparrow, probably a cat killed it, but couldn't find any visible wounds, I think I got to do a couple studies before burying it.
I generally don't give much of a shit about anything but my pets but I've saved a couple insects from drowning or from being accidentally squished, even brown recluse which I hate (especially large ones because they act like niggers every time they're spotted). Now that I remember when I was a kid I'd do torture flies, took their wings Raziel style and released them into the wild. For some reason I thought worms were pretty cool, thinking about it they still are but
>>7774257
>Humans are just weird like that, we like to experiment with what we can get away with.
Some even shove them inside their pee hole.

I wish anons on /v/ are more receptive to posts asking for requests, like the anons on /co/ are. I guess it's because there's a lot more drawfags on /co/, so the culture is more familiar to having them drop by

>>7775029
Nope, it's because few years back in /v/ drawthreads it was revealed one guy spams 90% of requests there and other boards' drawthreads. It's about control, power and having other people draw for you for free. /v/ drawfags opted to use the weekly drawfag threads with no requesting because artists don't tend to like to enable people like request spammers with their art. I recommend dropping drawing requests altogether. If you absolutely need to draw requests, simply asks requests from other drawfags. You don't need the validation and sense of community from drawing 4chan drawthreads' requests.

>>7775029
all the requests are coomer and fetish shit these days

>>7775040
No I meant like on random threads. The drawthread thing definitely plays a part, but on /co/ you could drop "post your requests" on a random thread and you'll get tens of replies.
>>7775071
That's what I'm looking for, I like it because the references and ideas are coming to me instead of me having to look for them

>>7775142
You are overestimating people's will to reply to you. Majority of anons lurk and simply read/skim the threads. It's a hurdle to click the post number and type a reply. It's so much easier to simply consume insteaf of contributing. When you realize it, you start to understand just how few people there are posting.

>That's what I'm looking for, I like it because the references and ideas are coming to me instead of me having to look for them

Eh. You are asking others to provide you ideas. And you are doing that on site where people are not expected to go solely to offer ideas for others to draw. Maybe you looking for interaction, maybe you are actually looking for ideas, maybe you need validation, maybe it's something else. But what I gather, you are looking from the wrong place whatever it is you are looking for. If I had to guess, you have some sort of tie to 4chan, maybe 4chan has offered you dopamine and entertainment in the past and now you want to combine 4chan with drawing. It's what lot of 4chan drawfags go through. Unfortunately reality seldom goes the way you want. You can keep bashing your head to wall or you can start learning and adapting new ways to think and operate.

If you want to keep bitching about 4chan or particular board not acting to your liking, feel free to do so. But personally I doubt anything going's to change. It's an old cliche: Be the change you want to see. Maybe you can't change 4chan or /v/. But you can change how you operate.

>>7775157
>You are overestimating people's will to reply to you
Maybe this is true on /v/, but from what I've experienced people on /co/ would more enthusiastically jump on the chance to request stuff whenever there's a post asking for them. I get if there's a lot more lurkers than posters, but the people that do post seem more receptive on /co/ because they have a more open culture for creativity and lurking drawfags.

>And you are doing that on site where people are not expected to go solely to offer ideas for others to draw
I'm actually not familiar, are there any sites that's solely dedicated to giving and receiving ideas for others to draw? I suppose there's artfight but that's more for OCs. I could use Twitter to ask for requests, but that's really also a site that's not solely there to offer ideas for others to draw. It's true that I do feel a sense of giving back to 4chan though, but that's neither here nor there.

>You can keep bashing your head to wall or you can start learning and adapting new ways to think and operate.
>If you want to keep bitching about 4chan or particular board not acting to your liking, feel free to do so
I do need to engage more media and watch movies and read books etc. to get more ideas in my head, but I could bitch a lot more about looking up references on Pinterest than I am lamenting /v/'s lack of enthusiastic requesters. I swear the algorithm shit there sucks so bad, I get that it's trying to remind me of past images I've had interest on in the past but it just means I'm seeing the same pictures over and over again. I wish it had a more randomized feed so looking up the same terms gives you new stuff more. I just thought it was an interesting observation how people are more receptive to calls for requests on different boards, just like how people on /vg/ would probably react more openly to requests than /v/. I'm not saying /v/ sucks because of that, I'm saying /v/ has a different culture to other boards.

>>7775181
>I do need to engage more media and watch movies and read books etc. to get more ideas in my head
Do it. I encourage that.

>looking up references on Pinterest
Yeah, stop that. Instead browse art and artists you like and who draw subjects you interested in. It also helps if you check 3D posers who produce same sort of stuff you draw. One of my creator friend is a 3D poser of shared genre and I can simply ask them to whip up reference poses for me to draw from different angles.

Go where the other artists of your genre go and mingle and chat.

>>7775184
>Instead browse art and artists you like and who draw subjects you interested in
I already do that a lot though, but subject matter aren't the same as finding poses and references for them. Or if it is, then I'll be looking at the original artist's work to reference and that can easily lead to copying.
I should find 3D posers, sounds like a reliable source

>>7775184
pinterest i use every once in a while, but i kinda noticed that i was spending more time scrolling for the perfect ref than drawing

>>7775212
Id recommend finding images you like and putting them into a program like pure ref instead of using pinterest. organizes your refs while removing that scrolling factor

>>7775214
I already use Pureref, but I gotta get the refs from somewhere and that somewhere is Pinterest

>>7775029
/v/ has been flooded with shitposters, semi-unironically bots and the mentally ill beyond all levels, the notion of fun requests, scribbles and OC have been basically wrung empty on the board and said shitposters will not comply to your request because it might starve them of (You)'s from their latest sperg session.

I unironically suggest running into random /vg/, (or /vm/ / /vst/ / /vrpg/ if you're in it for the long run) generals that you have a slight interest in the theme of and asking for draw requests, you'll be spammed with them beyond limits.

I'm to the point where I've been drawing for a few years learning things here and there, making my own original pieces, decent ability to copy and replicate other art. all of the sudden it feels like anything I try to make on my own is dogshit. It takes so much more effort to brute force trying to create original work over reproducing. ideas have stopped coming to me no matter how many days I try so I'm just kind of spinning my wheels aimlessly re-practicing various things, but it doesn't go anywhere because I'm not putting my full effort into it because I've done it already somewhere along the line. I know you never stop with the basics but it's like I can't get over myself and regain that humility. changing mediums didn't really work and I'm just going through the motions if I try to study. It's like I yearn to create but my abilities aren't where I want them to be, and I don't even know what I want to create anymore. The last finished thing I really applied myself towards was 3 months ago, since then I draw most days but most of them don't go well. I'm afraid of taking a break because I might as well have been this whole time, and it will just push everything off longer. the only thing that doesn't feel painful is copying, but that's because it's not really my work that I'm having to face

>>7775029
I usually do draw requests as warm ups but i won't actually put any effort in it
How it comes out first try is what i'll post

/v/ and other request heavy drawthreads on other boards? i completely avoid.
Ultimately, i am not drawing to farm numbers for social media but merely for shits and giggles

I think I'm not going to bother posting art next year. I want to focus on studying entirely whenever I can because I hate my art so, so god damn much. Being stuck in mediocrity and not being able to do more ambitious and lively pieces because of my amateur technical skills makes me so mad I could pop a blood vessel.

>>7776184
I understand, but be careful to not get stuck in the fundamental/tutorial hell forever.

>>7776184
I think it's healthy to post even stupid, few-line doodles.
People like engagement over quality, ideas over skill. It could be freeing to you to stop holding yourself up to a standard all the time and from time to time, post a silly doodle.

Another DM ignored. I ask for advice and it feels like every artist turns their nose up at me. Do I just not have enough followers and likes to be respected? It's not like my art is bad. Sometimes I just want to disappear because no one wants to talk

>>7776257
You're either ignored or given cookie cutter takes that aren't really useful for most people. Thats why you never ask for advice anon, sorry

>>7776257

Yes, because you don’t have shit. If you had followers, status, and notoriety in the game every knee shall bow in the server when you speak. Every keystroke, enter, and ping that alerts all members immediately shifts the whole vibe because you’re present only because you have something that can help them. If they have nothing to gain from you, you will be ignored. And anyone helping you without being paid either is an extremely lonely individual, a neet with nothing to do, or in my experience, is a ticking time bomb sheep in wolf’s clothing who wants to be perceived as the most helpful in the server only to poach right under the admins nose once promoted to build their own brand.

>>7776257
Who are you DMing?
If they’re higher status than you then you can’t just expect them to give advice for free, unless you’ve already spent time building up a rapport with them.

>>7776330
not that anon but there's this guy who was my teacher for months, and now he's getting some recognition on insta and out in the real world. I follow him and support him, repost his stuff and write funny, supportive messages from time to time. He doesn't even bother following me. Again, he was my teacher for months, in person. Fucking asshole

>>7776410
I had a manager who he would trauma dump on me about his life during 1 on 1 meetings and every time he would casually ask me what games I play and what not. So I send him a friend request on Steam and he leaves me hanging to accept the friend request knowing it’s me that sent it then on his very last day before leaving the company that same very night he cancels the friend request and blocks me. Some people are just downright genuinely 2 faced.

It fucking happened, the file I was drawing from was somehow either corrupted or the save didn't go through before I shut down the PC. I double checked it on the external drive and saw it saved but when I went back to the file it was fucking gone. What the fuck, luckily I saved a copy locally by pure habit but I have to do the clean up again - always make copies bros.
I'm still seething.

>>7776462
Stay calm and realize in the grand scheme of things, this doesn't matter.

I was trying to backup a new file, but instead overwrote the new with the old instead. 4 hours of drawing gone. I was on the floor in despair, so fucking stupid of me. But all this is just a tiny blip in our art journey. That was my cope and it helped.

>>7774210
i feel pity and disgust towards them. Torture is subhuman behavior so either dont bother them or kill them quickly

wow mithrilda is alive and just uploaded a youtube short
still drawing still beg

cool signatures?
https://www.zengyotaku.com/artist_seals.html
i want to make one for my crappy art, looks like something fun to get sidetracked into, ya got any signatures on your artwork? need some inspiration...

>>7776462
>>7776510
Something similar happened to me yesterday.
>finish a comic page for a client
>blend all layers and resize it
>save it as a preview
>proceed to close Photoshop
>"Do you want to save the changes you have made?"
>"Yeah, sure. Whatever..."
>Photoshop saves the changes and closes
>"Wait... What?"
Fortunately, I still have the Krita file at its original resolution. However, I'll have to recreate all the speech bubbles and rewrite the dialogue.

>>7777189
She needs to grind more boxes

>>7778550
this thing... it scares me.
Did he ever leave low/int/?

>>7778314
it's called Ex Libris you megafaggot, go research it with that name and you'll find plenty

>>7776257
DM me friendo!

>>7776257
trying to teach other artists is very hard and not for everyone, especially in this benighted age where everyone is demoralized and has no incentive to pursue the hobby. i've tried to do it at the request of others multiple times and it never amounted to anything, i've had people full blown cry to me on voice chat over the gentlest critique ever, people randomly saying stuff like "could you retweet my last drawing" in the middle of studying, people trying to use me as a therapist/internet girlfriend, etc. too much for me to handle

at the end of the day if you were meant to be an artist nothing can deter you and you'll be one against all odds, with or without help

>>7776510
When I copy for a backup, it gets renamed. The old ones are not deleted until I finish.

>>7776462
>>7778518
On Photoshop there is an obnoxious mechanic too.
Everytime you close the program, I think it rewrites on the disk the entire brushes file.
This means that if you shut down the PC as soon as you close the Photoshop, you might lose all the brushes.
It happened to me twice, but backups saved me.

Really good artists that are good looking kinda feels like bullshit
like, fuck you. pick one you fucking asshole.

>>7778550
Bros... he was supposed to save art...

Logically, I know it's better and more straightforward to try and garner an audience bases on my own fetishes and grow it over time, but there's a part of me that wants to throw all caution to the wind and tell the shitty little story inside my heart by making the comic I can as best I can in the narrowing window of time I have to not be plagued by financial worry. But that's such a naive perspective.

be honest. how many of you fucks have adhd?
How did you beat it? Assuming I'm bad at bluffing and can't get my meth, how do I fucking draw

>>7780345
me
How is this fair? How did people deal with this shit without meds? No way caveman didn't have ADHD, they must have had it. Is it fake? am I just coping? I need answers.

>>7780354
I think our ancestors scammed long enough to pump out a kid before being executed for being useless to the tribe. We're just unlucky to be born in a time when can't grift on childhood talent

>>7766068
>doesn't it make more sense to crab others? There's a finite amount of resources/jobs to go around, wouldn't less competition be better?
you are assuming the person you are crabbing would even make it to be direct competition for the job you want, the reality is that someone who spends time crabbing and someone who gets crabbed are both people who simply arent drawing enough to actually make it

>>7766299
>Rippetoe
>the real deal
he's got a loud personality and he repackages super ultra basic info for beginners who dont know better, but otherwise is a complete fraud for anything that matters, shit powerlifting totals, no pros coached under him, forums and community of eternal DYELs follow him and the only credentials he can take pride on is that he "collaborated" with actually successful coaches (which almost all of them ended up burning bridges with him later due to his arrogance)

>>7780345
>adhd
How do you really know if you have it? I've always thought most people, with the exception of a select few, are generally geared towards laziness but know they can't survive on doing nothing and push through the work. Even the way google describes it makes it seem extremely generic. I literally have all these traits and I'd think most people do too but just know to work through it.

>Difficulty focusing, struggling to sustain attention on tasks, especially those that are monotonous or uninteresting.
>Having trouble with time management, planning, and keeping things in order.
>Making errors due to a lack of attention to detail in work or daily tasks.
>Frequently forgetting appointments, deadlines, or details of daily routines.
>Often misplacing personal items like keys, phones, or wallets.
>Feeling fidgety or having the need to get up and move, even if internal.
>Difficulty waiting for one's turn or interrupting others frequently.
>Reacting strongly to frustration or disappointment.
>Having a mind that wanders or gets overwhelmed with thoughts.
>Making decisions without thinking through the consequences.

>>7780458
from every description and anecdote I've found, it seems to be that the procrastination comes with immense guilt, you literally can't get started and it's troubling and causes distress, the actual term is executive dysfunction which I think is a symptom of ADHD where you simply can't focus and it's not even your fault, it's literally a chemical imbalance
I just want legal meth. Is it hard to get? I know you need a psychiatrist prescription but I heard you're not supposed to outright ask for it. Why do I need to pussyfoot around it? Just give me the fucking drugs, I hate living like this.

>>7780458
>>7780594
the kind of laziness that's detestable is the careless laziness. The "eh I should do it but why bother" laziness.
I think adhd laziness is much more like >>7780594's description. It's full on executive dysfunction wherein you KNOW you need to work but you simply cannot bring yourself to start or stay focused.
Honestly I think I warrant a diagnosis just on the number of tabs I have open. I think I'm north of 100 on just the two windows I don't have cached

>>7780615
forgot my rare alan

Give me one reason not to give up and kms

>>7780644
Because you won't be able to wake up and see yourself become the person you want to be

im seeing things, doing my daily sketch with my mechanical pencil, and you know how sometimes mustache hair fall off? well a small hair fell into the nose on the character i was working on, and i was trying to blow it off, but shit was moving like it was stuck on the paper, but it was moving! so i try to wipe it off with my hand, and the mark is just stuck all of a sudden, crazy i swear to god it moved, the little mark moved clock wise. ahhhhh!