Thread 7777237

DON'T DRAW EVERY DAY, GOY.
MAKE SURE YOU PACE YOURSELF, GOY.

>>7777237 (OP)
i want to fuck her so bad bros

At best, this is vapid, inconsequential "advice". Is all her channel like that? Why do people watch that shit? I hate art influencers so much

>>7777249
That's pretty much all of youtube.
Do you think the let's players who scream all the time are doing anything consequential?

That said, even shallow and worn out advice advice is important.
Bullshit advice like 'just stop being sad', to a depressed person, may seem like it's completely useless and inconsequential, but it's a reminder that you have more power over your emotions than you think and that if you change your mindset, you can likely stop being so miserable; it's also a simple way of letting people know that their sobfest has worn out its welcome and the person exhibiting these traits is now acting out of line; etc.

Likewise, the basic bitch advice in art may seem obvious to all of us, but to those who it had not dawned upon, may find it invaluable.

>>7777249
>why do people watch this shit
Because they think if they watch someone who’s “made it,” that they themselves will “make it” too. It’s the same thing with “dating coaches” who surround themselves with prostitutes, it’s all smoke and mirrors for the person who does this “art advice” to make a quick buck.

Really all of the necessary resources you can find are free on the internet. These are just nebulous flavour of the week opinion pieces. Do you need to draw everyday? Who gives a fuck. At least people here admit this board is mostly a waste of time for bored autists. It sucks that people actually take this persons videos seriously.

>>7777237 (OP)
I've been having nausea attacks recently mid drawing. Perhaps it's the posture...
Any help drawbros?

>>7777263
anon, it seems your art is so dogshit that it is causing you physical harm. I recommend quitting drawing immediately

>>7777265
Lmfao it's something recent though, must be that I'm getting worse hahahaha

>>7777266
heh
Just make sure to not hug your screen/canvas too close and don't go full shrimp

>>7777269
Will do, thanks for the advice

Pikat had a real fall off recently.
Probably because her stream took off and she failed at being a concept artist.

>>7777279
Being a streamer is a cushier gig than being a concept artist at a big studio anyway. More creative freedom and more relaxed schedule.

>>7777237 (OP)
I was looking at her stuff. at least she draws , unlike most of /ic/

>>7777237 (OP)
You bumass niggas don't draw anyway so her advice would only increase your workload.

>>7777252
>>7777284
Pikat, it's OK to be a failed artist turned engagement farmer. Just accept it and stop coping so hard.

Pikat barely learned how to draw after 10 fucking years her art still looks like doshit

>>7777314
Better than anything you could do

>>7777314
looks fine to me

>>7777237 (OP)
Why is his avatar a loli? Is he a pedo?

i really want to draw stinky neet artist gf porn now

>>7777263
At one time (about every 3-4 days in a week, for about 1-2 months) I get bouts of nausea while drawing at night around 9-11pm after dinner. And it's caused by combination of lack of sleep and probably asymptomatic flu

>>7777284
Streaming is basically trying to be entertainer or a performer.

>>7777342
Shit. Why the fuck do I feel like I've seen this artstyle irl.

>>7777342
>looks fine to me
lol

>>7777351
care to share your art?

>>7777342
What a dogshit looking character. Probably made for vtubing. Good skills 0 taste, I understand why she got ditched from the industry.

>>7777347
The loser gf porn category is the most repackaged gamer girl tranny shit I ever seen. You fell for the LARP like a total retard.

>>7777314
>>7777375
>>7777375
Now pyw to prove that you can do better.
>inb4 closes tab and hides thread like a complete baby bitch

But I like drawing every day

>>7777377
Oh no, anyway here is a loose scribble of what i've been thinking

>>7777342
Don't know what these retards are on about, it looks good to me. Only critique is the breasts should be larger. Much larger.

>>7777377
the neet gf trend is just the new big tiddy goth gf trend for the terminally online

i was thinking of maybe giving her big ole sagging milkers without going into balloon territory

i find the design rather too busy to fully grasp in a short amount of time tho

>>7777237 (OP)
watched one of her videos, she just gave advice like "if you are bad at drawing something, you can just not draw it" and that was the moment where I blocked her channel lol.
No really, in this case, it's perfectly comparable to someone telling you that you don't need to stretch before working out if it hurts - complete bs, and in the long run will hurt you real bad.

maybe something like this

>>7777423
ic will tell you the same thing
unless you already draw like a pro, don't bother
granted, most here don't even draw and are just here for free art

>>7777427
and insulting people
and whatever they do they loosely call trolling

I just now someone is waiting for that >>7777777 with the hottest take.

>>7777423
That's horrible advice. Stay away from YouTube "teachers" holy fuck

>>7777777
literally nobody but you nodraws cares about numerals
you will post some boring shit anyway

Kill all prebegs

are the prebegs in the room with us right now?

There's literally only prebegs in the room
It's funny how you retards always self-report, 0 self awareness, -1000 skill, no wonder you never improve kek

>>7777470
your ugly failed artist vtuber will not thank you no matter how hard you shill for her, anon

>seething at literal doodles
lmao how mad and insecure can sharties get? LOL

>>7777427
>>7777429
Insane how this post predicted the future. Literal permaseething nodraws here.

>imagine hitting a ugly failed artist stinky vtuber neet woman's face
>with your dick
i love women so much bros

I do better. I don't draw anyday.

>>7777263
That's not normal, go to your doctor

>>7777238
I want to empty my balls into her too. Sucks that she had to tone down the body horror stuff. :(
https://files.catbox.moe/gibcyq.mp4

>>7777593
Grown men watch this shit?

>>7777619
you genuinely sound jealous
Which kind of jealousy is it though? Pikat being an actual woman or you not getting the attention she gets?

>>7777430
>>7777435
already seething lol

seething?
if you mean cumming then yeah
im seething a load

western nodraw roasties cant compete

>>7777237 (OP)
And most important of all, remember to like, subscribe, hit that notification bell, follow me on twitter, follow me on instagram, become a patron, remember to use squarespace and nordvpn, and join my mentorship program

seething all over stinky vtuber artist

browse every thread on /ic/ with text only posts hidden and /ic/ becomes slightly good again

>>7777263
I get this really badly, heres a few things i did that really helped.

1) do not wear headphones. The noise cancelling in my MX5's were making me really nauseaus, but even with it disabled i still got dizzy. I just listen to music on my speakers, and i do so quietly.
2) this might be less relevant, , but regularly flush your ears out with a hydrogen peroxide mix (just google).
3) use a decent monitor, if you're drawing digitally it might be PWM flicker causing it. It can happen on oleds. Research that, YMMV.
4) If digital, do not draw in complete darkness. Add a lamp behind the screen so that the bright contrast stops killing you.
5) set a timer for 20-25 minutes. Take a 5 minute break away from the screen, walk about and get a drink or something, then go back to it. Increase your time gradually to figure out when the symptoms start, and then decrease the timer time to avoid it and add a break accordingly.

Posture might help, but for me this was the most effective. I have a herman miller chair, so i dont think that was the cause for myself personally. I also occassionally consume things with ginger in them. Good luck anon! Rooting for you.

>>7777237 (OP)
yes OP, grind endlessly, fuck up your wrist and get a massive depression from not progressing.

>watch an art youtuber actually draw
>they're feathering in every line at a glacial pace while zoomed all the way in

>>7777237 (OP)
I'd say it depends on the person and how they learn ultimately it depends precisely on the definition of drawing everyday one subscribes too. If you mean draw one complete image everyday regardless of how shit it is yeah that could work for someone, other people might get more caught up on what exactly to draw and it might turn them off because of lack of ideas. some people benefit from doing draw a box type shit or drawing 40,000 circles a year. some people are hopeless and give up before even trying because they aren't perfect draw gods instantly.
>>7777423
>>"if you are bad at drawing something, you can just not draw it"
if that's true then yeah that's fucking shit advice. the things one is weak at are the things you gotta do the most despite it not being pleasant or easy. It's like telling an aspiring bodybuilder to not worry about striving towards good body symmetry.

>>7777238
>>7777593
you're both faggots

>>7778258
what's the issue

>>7778325
nta, but I've heard many times that you should draw zoomed out to 100%, or less, so that you don't get bogged down focusing on each individual line.
And assuming that, by feathering, that anon means that each line tapers out, she really is doing exactly that and drawing in a really inefficient and slow way.

Though, if that's how she prefers to draw, power to her - it's not how I'd advise someone to draw though.

>>7777279
what happened? i really liked her content, but havent seen her recent vids

>>7778315
>Wants to fill a female with baby batter.
>Gay
Huh?

>>7778056
Thanks a lot anon! I will try it out for sure

>>7777237 (OP)
I remember her humblebraggy "I'm not a real artist actually I'm such a beglet haha" phase, during/after working at riot. She's an attention whore.

>>7778426
When you work on big corpo its a rule that you can't say that, it's even an insult to the people that work there

>>7778426
>during/after working at riot.
who did she draw?????

>>7778426
Where are your 22k likes for this box exercise that you totally needed, anon?

>>7778441
nobody. she was a codemonkey then did a little devops related work before the branch closed completely and she was laid off.

>>7778441
https://youtu.be/AWSMR1ZPX0E?si=X8hVv27e4m3sHk51

>>7778441
She did the concept for star guardian sett. She knew some artists at Riot because she was a dev there and got the chance.

>youtube artist

Youtube is a site full of charlatans and shit people who couldn't make it in their actual career so now they do this. You get the rare youtuber who's successful in his field like brandon sanderson, but otherwise they're all shit. Remember the old saying "Those who can't do teach"? It ought to be revised to those who can't do becomes a youtuber. And if you disagree tell me, what youtube artist you have hanging on your wall right now? What youtube artist you admire the artbook of? Not an artist who happens to have a youtube, but a true youtuber artist like this hack.

>>7778426
Brainlets constantly want to get told things only from authorities and you get mad someone pulls rank when they can.
Like that guy who worked at blizzard for 10 years.
Why do you think he kept saying that? Because normies looooooooove appeals from authorities since they feel they don't have to question anything they hear or think about it.

>>7778490
>Why do you think he kept saying that?

Because of the nature of the beast. It's a common marketing tactic to tell people who you are and why should they listen to you no matter what the job.

>>7778497
why do you reply to a rhetorical question?

>>7778498
Because you needed a rhetorical answer,duh!

>>7778449
>i learn something new
what exactly is it then??? when i draw them i learn NOTHING
why is she gatekeeping

>>7778531
grim

>>7778349
i get the first point but i don't understand the feathering

>>7778606
It seems like that anon used that word wrong. Feathering usually means in art to make something fuzzy/blurry. I think that anon meant tapering. BTW you can do that, the reason teachers tell you not to do so is because it's like mowing a lawn with a pair of scissors. Some artists find the technique therapeutic or are perfectionists others learned this way and built of the cognitive stamina to actually make great art like that. That technique is not for the easily distracted person who would like to make art in an speedy, efficient manner and the downsides is that you can easily lose the scope of the entire drawing doing that unless you're vigilant.

>open /ic/
>vendetta NGMI sharty thread first page
lol

>>7778478
Brando sando is a good example

>>7777342
Pretty slow for 10 years desu. At worst you should be this good in 4-5 years.

>>7778673
Not to dunk on her but she's stagnating for a reason. If an anon posted something similar here he'd rightfully be called /int/ and told to get his hands out of his ass. It's eerie to see the quality of the studies she makes and to compare them with her completed drawings. Everything is clean and good, but then you look at her completed art and it's nothing but flat forgettable OCs or a Mario character on a blank canvas mirroring the figure studies she did.
That's fine if you want to become a shitty vtuber "artist" entertaining beglets with shitty advice and pretending that drawing boxes still teaches you anything at all at a high /int/ level to farm sympathy points. But if you aspire to actually gitgud then you shouldn't just do studies for the sake of it or you'll end up like her. Study in preparation for ambitious pieces slightly outside of your reach.

>>7778673
It's not surprising, she's was a software dev and got laid off like 2ish years ago and only started to take or put more time into drawing like 1 year before she got laid off.

>>7778696
>Study in preparation for ambitious pieces slightly outside of your reach.
funny coming from an /ic/ fag.

>rightfully be called /int/
>by NGMI underage pretentious crabs
What a horror.

>>7778696
what's wrong with doing studies to learn though
like right now she's streaming studying arms

>>7778478
>"Those who can't do teach"
the quote is correct to a certain extent, cause a good chunk of those that teach are those that retired or are too old stay in their field. That's why you shouldn't listen to any of the fags here about art advice. (you) included

>>7778709
studying can be a form of procrastination, out of fear of doing the actual thing and failing

Just watched and liked her video from 3 accounts.
Seethe chuds.

>>7778716
nigga do yo you believe a word you just said.

>>7778721
he has a bit of a point. you don't want to end up like that guy from /beg/ who has been doing the same peter han exercises for like a year daily now (on digital no less, which kinda defeats the whole point) and refuses to actually draw any sort of subject out of fear

>>7778733
yeah, the better your studies get, the harder is to deal that your original work won't be up to par

Didn't know /ic/ had developed such a taste for mediocre eceleb cock. At least when people where shitting themselves over the likes of Ruan Jia they had good reasons to grovel. I guess 4channel did change over time, people's standards really are getting lower and lower.
>>7778707
Fine then, fill another sketchbook or two. Never complete anything outside of it, the /ic/ way. See where that leads you. But don't forget what I said.
>>7778709
For what purpose? Learn how to draw arms 0,05% better? You can see as well as I do she already understands arms. Do you think Michelangelo sculpted a hundred disembodied marble arms and legs before popping the Pieta out of his ass? I know it's a shocker for most intermediate artists but that's not how things work.
>sketch idea for a piece
>notice you're stuck on [thing] (there's where you learn what to study)
>study thing you don't know how to do (thats where you learn)
>finish drawing (thats where you directly apply what you learned)
That's how you actually climb your way out of /int/ meddling. Doing studies only is only good when you're /beg/ and need to grasp basic things like volumes, construction, perspective, etc., and this person is very clearly past that. Now watch her stagnate for another 5 years doing nothing but arm studies. Or don't, and follow someone actually worth a shit.

>>7778738
can you pyw real quick

>>7778735
>he
(You) don't draw

>>7778744
sorry... *she

>>7778738
>guys never study because michelangelo probably maybe didnt i think

>>7778738
/int/bros...why are we so oppressed?

>>7777249
The video where her boyfriend started drawing with no help or instruction and came up with a way to mathematically conceptualize 3d objects on his own was pretty good.

>>7777237 (OP)
>DON'T DRAW EVERY DAY, GOY.

What's wrong with that advice?

>>7778856
That's insane, Pikat's content is crazy... I think I'll do another donation or two to show her and her bf some love :)

>>7778771
That anon isnt against studying. What he means is that you have to study with a concrete, short term goal.
i. e. Doing horse poses studies just before drawing a western scene.

Why are you guys so quick to make a strawman?

>>7778731
Crab War 2: The end of Odissey

>>7778873
What kind of emotional meltdown is this?

>>7778738
You have been here for long enough to notice the culture of /ic/ shift for the worst, surely you actually made it can provide proof of your own art skills ,right?

The rule is that when you demand other to post work, you must post work first.

From what I've seen she has the technique down, decent lineart, pretty diligent with studies, and probably more into art edutainment than drawing for herself, I guess she likes hanging around with/for her chat/audience doodling whatever. Some people don't have any specific ambitions about art, maybe it's not her situation but she seems to be comfortable with streaming (78k followers on Twitch) and may be doing well from donations, selling merch and comms if she does any.
I don't know if she's pursuing an industry job still, but this art she posted about 2 years ago on Art Station.

>>7779362
Haven’t watch her stuff for a long time, but i remember she was selling commissions for 500-2k dollars and said in a vid she has so much money saved up from her laid off software engineer job at riot, she can “jobless” for like a few years and plans on going back to being one later. Who knows, she might have made a lot of money from just art streaming where she doesn’t need to go back. She might join the art industry cause she’s getting pointers and advice from a lot of industry vets.

i dont get why the end goal has always be the "industry" in art
You genuinely want to avoid the industry or wageslaving for some shitty company that would replace their workers the instant they could (i.e. all of them, no exception)

if it was me and i made good money from social media, patreon/donations and selling merch/other shit and the occasional comm, why in the everliving absolute fuck would i want a job? If the social media gig fails, i probably would also enough saved up to never work for the rest of my life.

>>7777237 (OP)
only autistics can't pace themselves lmao

>>7779393
>i dont get why the end goal has always be the "industry" in art
Guaranteed income, just like any other job. Being your own boss doesn’t with stable income. Most people don’t take on risk and rather go for the “safe” option.

>>7779399
One would be a fool to try to get an industry job unless he already salivated and lubricated the cocks of whoever will give him the office slut cubicle

>>7779393
you learn and improve more in an environment with motivated peers
you get to work in more complex and intricate projects than you could do on your own

>make 10k+ monthly from social media shit
>can pay all your shit and set money aside
>"no bro get an industry job that pays maybe 1.5k a month and you have to work 12 hours a day and go homeless but you get to work on epic projects!"
make it make sense

>>7779393
I don't get it either, I mean
>Spend years learning art
>Subject yourself to bouts of depression over not being good enough
>Carpal tunnel is an inevitability that you have to live with
>Draw and study like you have an exam the next day except there is no exam and you're doing this every day
>All of this just to get a minimum wage contract job at a mobile game company designing UI elements for 3 months then you're back fighting in the ring
>God forbid if you're an animator because it's this but on steroids
Like, how is this appealing in the slightest? I got paid far more working at a fucking shoe shop for 6 months than I ever did through industry contracts. You can say skill issue but I don't care.

>>7777237 (OP)
Is she Asian? She sounds Asian.

>>7779426
Nah, not a skill issue, just common sense.

>>7778873
Lol.... I actually chuckled at this.

>>7779393
It's clear that everyone has a different definition of "Making it". Being forced to spend your life cynically reinforcing parasocial relationships while endlessly stagnating sounds miserable to me. Everything has a catch depending from where you view it, including the job you glamorized in your post. I find >>7779404 's reasons more appealing from a personal growth perspective. It's still art we're e talking about and not everything has to be about money.

>>7779315
Stop calling me out

>>7779393
it's just an american thing

>>7777238
>>7777593
sexo with pikat (the artist, not the egg)

>>7777290
>unlike most of /ic/
hey, i draw.
its just that sometimes i lose inspiration.
so i edit my drawings from time to time to see if i can't wake up the schizo in me and start up again.

you dont get how difficult it is to draw without ones schizo powers being activated.

>>7777237 (OP)
This is the kind of stuff people who have no problem drawing a lot every day say. They have genuine problems with burnout, and to them a break is 1 day without drawing. I've noticed prolific artists tend to share this advice.

The issue is the majority of struggling artists have the opposite problem, drawing every day is a challenge, and taking "breaks" or burningo out can range from weeks to years. For those people, it's very important they try to draw every day. Took me far too long to realize this myself.
I still don't draw every day but I draw much more than I used to.

>>7779575
>American thing

Most people I knew who wanted to be in the industry was not in america, they were often european or brazilian. Americans were bought up being pioneers , on the fake stories stolen by samurai and placed on to cowboys, they would want to be freelancers because it has the word "FREE" in it.

>>7779599
I think we have a winrar

>>7779393
industry jobs are reliable
>replace workers
thats every single job where you aren't the boss, cope harder
>>7779400
>i cant get in so i have to write more cope
>>7779514
>Being forced to spend your life cynically reinforcing parasocial relationships while endlessly stagnating sounds miserable to me
you just learn what it means to be a working adult? how old are you?
>>7779609
nope it's an american thing, cope ameritard

>>7779609
lol, bro forgot dadaism existed, and pollock, and ready mades.
American "art" is built on a foundation of lie and hateboner, artificially inflating their own egos for some trans-national agenda of superiority while they never had any significant amount of culture due to all but wiping out natives and cutting themselves off fully from the rest of the world.

>>7779599
if drawing every day is a challenge then stop drawing
faggots like you will never ever get it, you don't take it seriously, it shows and then you make excuses. you live in kansas or some redneck shithole? I knew a faggot from Georgia that is just plain stupid as fuck and just repeated the same mistakes forever.

>>7779741
>if drawing every day is a challenge then stop drawing
No, faggot. I like drawing.

>>7779745
then i better not hear your bitchass whining unless you're paying me for it, bitch ass nigga

>>7779748
I am literally not whining you autistic spaz.
I'm saying drawing every day is important and the OPs advice only applies to people who can do that in the first place.

>>7779362
She's already in the industry, she used to be a programmer for League and later she got a skin made. I think she prefers to stream now despite being self-deprecating about being unemployed.

>>7779750
nah you are a whining bitch ass nigga because you took offense specifically
>tHIs DOesNT aPPly TO mE and HeRES WHy
you have a victim bitch little whiny faggot mindset. You are a kansas nigga I can tell

>>7779754
>You took offense
?

>>7779599
Basically

Why are 3rd worlders so enamored with vtubers?

>>7779768
Because nobody knows you're peruvian behind the 2D mask.

>>7777279
qrd? I've always liked the (few) vdieos of hers I've seen, arts pretty good too.

her Vtuber model so cute

>>7779798
Is she an actual girl vtuber or a "girl" vtuber.

>>7779798
vtubers are weird imo because the moment you do a face reveal and youre ugly its like a betrayal
has a vtuber face reveal that was butt ugly irl ever gone well?

>>7779809
People who enjoy vtubers will usually ignore and avoid face reveals because even if they're attractive it undermines and diminishes the experience.

I prefer old man vtubers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0uULs9oPu8

industry wageslave shill in full force, uh?
I will never get a job, wagie.

>>7777237 (OP)
>>7777249
her video popped up when i was searching for drawing software comparsion
and that was the only one i can recomend
try Ctrl+Enter in Krita

>>7777375
>I understand why she got ditched from the industry.
yay story time
please?

>>7779976
so you're just going to let your parents subsidize your whole life? not the flex you think it is

>>7780090
My government, yes, and even if it was my parents, what is it to you?
You're fucking miserable holy shit
If you want to wageslave so much, just go do it, no reason to keep dragging others into your cum bucket

on the bright side, EBT is getting pulled so some of the schizos will straight up just starve to death

i thank god every day i don't live in the americas

>>7780136
this except hyperborea

>>7780136
sour grapes. America rocks! Though I'm happy you don't live here as well, we don't need another dirty brown person shitting in the streets.

>>7780256
what's it with americans and obsession with skin color? You know america has more black people than literally any other place in the civilised worldd?

>>7780278
hit the nail on the head, saar? we wouldn't want your shitty europeans seeing how they allowed immigration to fuck up their countries as well.
>You know america has more black people than literally any other place in the civilised worldd?
And london is now a muslim mecca enjoy the police arresting you for tweets while allowing grooming gangs to run rampant.

>>7780095
lol hit a nerve did i

>>7780129
we might reach an ic golden age

>>7780278
As far as my research goes; americans have a lot of worms and parasites in the bodies, which heavily influence their behavior.
Explains why they are genuinely so weird and low iq.
All the anons posting the same high school tier insults and canned replies, you can always assume it's a brain and gut worm infested americattle.

>>7780285
ungrateful englishmen with inferiority complex due to having no history, sperging out, per usual lol.

This is why art youtube is how it is, you motherfuckers are taking it into the grave pretending to make it into a business, and screaming at everyone else for being worse in the self-made by you fake ass field which doesn't correlate with reality of making art, or creating culture for that matter.

Also I'm not british you fucking piece of shit stoner.

>>7780129
ebt?