Impossible to be happy in Brazil

I know, that's why I left

>>211647816 (OP)
Here you can get picrel for $19,726

>>211647816 (OP)
I thought you built the VW Gol instead. Euro prices are slightly more expensive

>>211648380
Euros earn 5x more than us

>>211647816 (OP)
true

>>211647816 (OP)
What exactly is the problem here?
Price?
No affordable fun cars?
Localised versions of international brands with aggressive cost-cutting sold at global prices?

>>211647816 (OP)
I would shoot myself if I had to drive literally any of those

>>211648433
what's the salary for an engineer in R$ ?

>>211649027
Like $4 a hour in Brapzil

You can just leave it.
Now stop complaining about you country and work so you are able to move to somewhere else.

>>211649027
Between 8 and 14k

>>211649106
>you
*your

let's say 15K a year for a 35yr old normy
he'd have to work 8 full years for a freaking car !?

yeah, you suffer

>>211649173
nigga it's per month

>>211647816 (OP)
Only morons buy brand new cars

>>211647816 (OP)
gay soulless 4-door slopmobiles

>>211649173
Brother thats $1500 per month in America the payment for a used escalade is less

Toyota should produce and sell this car in Brazil.
>prices in Japan
>R$70000 to R$77000

>>211647816 (OP)
I know your suffering, even old cars are expensive in my shithole.

>>211648280
That is around 100.000 brapzilian dollars.

>>211648380
Gol was discontinued in 2022

>>211648824
Primarily taxes. Also, the automakers here formed a cartel to inflate the prices of their shitboxes; they are now seething that the chinese are dumping a bunch of cheap stuff here. Red is taxes and green is automaker profit.

>>211647816 (OP)
Buy a BYD car, support chinese economy for a shared destiny for humankind China Socialist Dream 2050

>>211649027
>>211649173
with our currency going to shit I earn ~35k euros/year gross
t. engineer

>>211648380
Gol is gone and will be missed.

>>211651419
Stop memeing yourself, those 12s are expensive because they are becoming rarer than hell.
Specially the 90s ones, they rusted to oblivion and a passable one with AC will cost you a testicle.
Uber fucked up the Corsa prices too.
Our only escape is "3 door" hatchbacks because they can't be used for Uber or Didi.

Dacia is huge in Europe because they are the only ones not behaving like greedy nose tribe people

>>211652539
Found a cheap one.

>>211647816 (OP)
here in polska aswell

>>211652646
Tetanus-mobile

>>211652644
They sell them under Renault brand here

>>211652158
>>211652443
I didn't know that. I read somewhere they were related. Those who have travelled in both cars, did you notice a step up/down in quality. I read that the dacias sold there under the Renault Brand had way less safety features, and the steel used was worse.

>>211652265
Taxes here are about 22%. All the mandatory active safety features have increased the price a lot.

Why does your country want to tax foreign cars?

>>211654086
These cars are made here, is just that even without import tax, they are taxed like hell.

arent even satellite cities walkable in brazil? just buy a good electric bike or bicycle

>>211647816 (OP)
Buy 2 door Suzuki jimny

>>211654432
You voted for this.

>>211654086
Brapzilian auto industry is dead all we do is assemble cars for foreign companies and design slightly different versions of existing models for the latin american market.
I mean, we still have local companies, but they're either too small or don't do personal cars.

>>211654631
It's walkable in terms of having shit like bakeries, markets, some sort of clinic and a bar at relative walking distance from home, that already enough for most zilians but any good job, education oportunity or better form of entretainment than drinking untill you pass out requires some commuting time, sometimes too much.
Most of our cities are badly planned, we have basic conveniences everywhere precisely due to the lack of proper planning, shit just pop up where they're needed, but some things follow economies of scale, and the government often builds shit like universities and general hospitals in the middle of nowhere, and so does the private sector with malls and exhibit halls.

>>211654432
Is there a flat tax rate?
In Japan, the tax rate varies depending on
・Displacement
・Fuel consumption
・Weight

And 10% consumption tax is added.

>>211655631
No, there is industry tax, interstate transport tax and social tax. The federal gov is going to make it simpler desu, but it's going to be even more expansive by adding a "sin tax" to all ICE vehicles.

whose idea was it to make places that cant afford cars car centric? what psycho thought of this?

>>211647816 (OP)
That's why Chinese cars are running over.

>>211655932
There are more cars in São Paulo than human beings.
I hate cars, though. I'd like the cheapest one to cost a million dollars.

>>211656058
can the average brazilian afford to buy a new car?

>>211656111
Most people do, so probably yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-rv_rc-Bs

>>211656170
they probably finance it for a decade or more, thats how it is in turkey

>>211652429
>~35k euros/year gross
that would be a decent salary in Poland if you lived anywhere but Warsaw. Nothing to be ashamed of.

>>211656220
The chance of this happening is real. I don't know if it's been a decade, but houses and cars are financed here too. Houses certainly take decades.

>>211649588
based ProSucc enjoyer

>>211647816 (OP)
>polo brazil 21k €
>polo Germany 18k €

I thought you make them localy, how can they cost more than here?

>>211656324
Taxes and automaker's cartel

>>211656324

This way
>>211652265

If it were up to me, the tax would be 5000%.

>>211654692
The car cartel was made a long time ago anon. Even before the dictatorship.

>>211647816 (OP)
>79% of Brazilian households have a car
That's higher than the UK or Germany, what are you complaining about?

no car should hve these ugly antenna in 2025

>>211658755
You can walk through most Eurosh*t countries in hours

>>211652646
500k for that? wtf

>>211658867
500k pesos = 420 us dollars

>>211656324
nigga we have two regions living on welfare, someone has to pay for them.

>>211659125
>welfare
has little to no impact on the gov budget
most of those taxes are going to the pockets of bankers who debt trapped the country

>>211655930
duster harlequin edition

>>211647816 (OP)
Lol

>>211647816 (OP)
just buy used cars. sure there is a chance you will need to visit the mechanic shop, but freeing yourself from this headache is not worth 100k+

Just buy used cars bro. Got a 2009 Ecosport for 4k usd last summer.

>>211647816 (OP)
I only buy cars old enough to be free from paying IPVA, besides new cars got even more expensive thanks to ubers and renting companies buying entire fleets for them, I'm unironically will buy a byd next time just to cut on fuel expenses

>>211667251
Here if you buy a car older than 25 years you pay no tax.