if i sell all of my possessions, i can afford a plane ticket; any recommendations on where to go? i want to get out, can't get a job been trying since i turned 18, 23 now. living in grandparents basement dreaming about getting hired for at least 5 dollars below minimum wage so i can move forward in life. i'm looking for somewhere that a able bodied male can find work immediately and buy some (undeveloped/otherwise undesirable) land with mineral rights within a year. ive got nothing in terms of certs, endorsements, or formal education but am otherwise a decently hard worker with a aptitude for making use of whatever i have on hand to complete a physical task. other than that i value freedom more than anything; firearms sure but other aspects too, arguably more important. if i decide one morning that i want to dig a well or tear down my house and rebuild it i don't want to be required to answer any questions or be bound by bogus regulations like in this bs country.

a condensed list of things i'm looking for:

>welcoming or at least accommodating of (civil) english speaking immigrants
>peaceful (but not harmless) country with a sensible ruling class or absence of one. less corruption = better too.
>not assfucked economy, need it to be at least possible to get a entry level job/apprenticeship and land to live on.
>no bs regulations like us/eu; i would be ok with being told to stop doing something if it was causing harm sure but no arbitrary bs for what i do on land i own like having to pay 5-100k to certify my own wood stove.
>reasonably low likelyhood of getting mortared in my sleep (so like, not a active warzone)

i'm new to board, sorry if this isn't the place.
otherwise i'd love to hear you talk about your home country even if not relevant /int/!

>>211664598 (OP)
If you have no skills or money or education or employment history, no country is going to want you dude

>>211664659
i shall try my best to change their minds anyways :)

>>211664598 (OP)
Going overseas is a huge leap; you should master a job first.
Just become a carpenter or a construction worker or something; your country is big enough and in some areas they'll hire anything that lives

>>211665110
well, in italy that may be the case; but not here. if you don't have at least something that makes you stick out from the crowd you won't even be considered, even for my local minimum wage (7.25/hr usd). most entry level jobs are rare, highly competitive, and low in demand. apprenticeships do not exist for tradesman here. almost every job listing posted is fake too. on top of everything else its general practice for employers to just ghost applicants they reject instead of notifying them so you can't even get feedback about why they rejected you and you are left wondering if they actually rejected you or just haven't gotten to your application.

>>211664598 (OP)
Caribbean my friend. You can crew ships and make alot of money. If you have a question ask. It's actually alot easier than you expect. Assuming you are fat, find someone needing a crew mate, usually really rich people. You'll do boring stuff on a boat and sleep in a cabin

>>211665460
After trump deport those illegal immigrants, there would be plenty of low skill jobs available.

>>211665569
https://www.crewseekers.net

Indeed is okay but crew seekers tends to be the best. Work a crew have everything covered make about 4 grand a month after taxes buy a decent sail boat in 6 months that's your rent, electricity and water covered. All you need to worry about is food and gas for your dingy. A used but I'm very good shape 35 foot by 16 foot sail boat with a 30 by 14 foot inside cabin is the way to go.

>>211665569
what country would that be? also lol, i know its stereotypical american and most people around where i live are land whales but i can't afford to be fat. when you're poor like me you end up rationing out your food and every bit of energy you expend is quite calculated. even with all my efforts to maintain a healthy weight in spite of a income less than 10 usd/month i'm still only 100 lbs.

>>211665721
See
>>211665720
You would probably start in like Florida or go or pr and travel the Caribbean for a season. They'd pay a starter 4 k a month all expenses paid after taxes and usually if they like you kick you an extra 5 to 10 gs. The people are almost all huge money boomers who are retired. I worked them a decade ago, the last season I worked I pulled in 60 k but I was pretty much running the ship with two random helpers.

>>211665816
Also I forgot.
You show skinny but in shape the boomers/ship owners will feed you till you are fat. It's just a lifestyle down here. No one starves.

>>211665846
you're painting thim as people with too much money to know what to do with; what are the odds they'd also transport me from the midwest? as of current my only mode of transportation is legs unfortunately.

i can lift 35kg+ no prob, ~250 once with a week of recovery. fitness is not in any way a issue for me; i used to do calisthenics back when people were willing to pay me in exchange for yardwork.

>>211666014
50%

>>211666149
thats some fat chance if true, unsarcastically..

>>211664598 (OP)
oh yeah, in case people were wondering i haven't changed my mind; i need to get out. even if i can get on my feet financially the economy is highly unstable and its getting more and more dangerous to live here by the day. even if it were possible to sue for damages doing so won't unshoot me or resurrect my shriveled corpse.

>>211666190
I'm being serious. It's a 700 dollar ticket. That's nothing to them. They will want you on their ship usually 3 to 6 months however after. Meaning it's just them trusting you not to run off after you get down here. If you do run you can't stay down here. The community is too small. If it's a legit bad fit but you are working they'd send you back home or find another ship needing crewed. So it depends but if you are looking for those types you can find them. There's a shortage of young whitish men down here who can be trusted by boomers

Other countries aren't america, you can't just go there and if they try to remove you call them racist Nazis. You have to follow the rules

>>211666527
Also.
You being skinny is an advantage. It's hot down here but not Midwest in the summer August hot. It's always 80-90 at day 70-75 at night.
Average height down here among non whites is 5'7 tops. I'm 5'11 and I tower over most people even the black men in vi

shithole coded post
yes, we are infinitely better than america, if infinitely worse than Europe

>>211664598 (OP)
>Leaving America to make money

Who's gonna tell him

Just go to a different state , retard

>>211666692
If he's a skinny Midwesterner, unless he's tall his life is a living hell and it's not his fault. The men go after anyone who lets say 5'10 170 below. It's like highschool girls but it effects your work life. I worked up there for a little and had to fire half a turn around crew before they understood how things would work. God bless fire on site.

>>211666799
Affects*
But that's why I'm throwing out decent advice. If you are skinny and a white male in America below 6'2 get the fuck out now. Trust me you will pay as things get bad again.

>>211666606
well, i mean yeah theres always going to be proper channels to follow; for one i'll need a passport, there rest depends on the particular country i'd assume. before i actually move there i'll need to learn their culture and at least basics of the local language(s)

>>211666772
its not just about the money, freedom doesn't exist here, at least in the form that i want. i want to build my own house and live mostly self-sufficient without the fear of being killed/life destroyed over a difference in belief, malice, or incompetence like the police mistaking the address.

>>211666871
>want to build my own house and live mostly self-sufficient without the fear of being killed/life destroyed over a difference in belief, malice, or incompetence like the police mistaking the address.
Moving to some third world shit hole with no regulations as an American will put a fucking target on your head. If locals don't continuously rob you for everything you have the local constibulary will extort you dry. Think

>>211666871
good luck building a house in another country without money or skills

>>211666871
I'm telling you the Caribbean is your best bet. Crew a ship for boomers who will treat you like a grandchild and pay you well, get a sail boat the size of a small house for that amount which will be sroc sufficient with things like solar panels, anchor off an English speaking island get a decent job. Eventually go to hard it land and buy a property which will never hit the open market from a local who you will be friends with or have friends who knows. That's what I did. My house never hit the market and I used *maybe* bribes to get it legal from some Jamaicans who wanted to retire back there.
Most Americans in the states are very sheltered. I live off the grid with panels in a neighborhood that technically doesn't exist but we get mail and have power and police. You wouldn't even know it technically doesn't exist until you checked. The entire Caribbean from VI where I live to pr is like this.

>>211666799
actually no, most of the time i don't even get to see the actual people doing the hiring. best case the shift manager offers to pass on my (extremely short) resume. trypically i end up just submitting applications online and hoping they don't get filtered though so the height/weight doesn't even factor.

>>211666934
its a process; i actually have plenty of skills they just aren't fformally recognised. they're pretty wide and varied, however i'm not gonna claim to be a mastier in any of them.

if you laid out all the materials or pointed at a woody area and a pile of tools i can build a functional house. if you wanted me to build a gold sluice from raw materials and a kife i could. if you wanted me to write code for a microcontroller in a mechatronics project theres a high likelyhood that i could do that too, unless you want it in rust or something. want a tunnel/trench? i can dig it. verticle mineshaft? absolutely, i can even make a integrated ladder. if you wanted me to change out a car part i could do that. want me to make and use a block and tackle, guess what? the list goes on and on; theres little i can't do so long as i have the materials/tools/materials for missing tools.

>>211667100
I would just check the source I gave you and make cold video calls or work indeed. They will have to see you first obviously

>>211666772
america is garbage for making money
america is great if you already have the money.

>>211667160
>america is great if you already have the money.
yeah need money to get money here, sadly. if i had at least like 2-5k i could start my own business instead of helplessly floundering like i have been most of my adult life. the more money you have the easier it is to pile even more on top.

>>211667239
i hate your country but you seem like a cool dude. Consider the following:

https://youtu.be/6pz9px2TqJ0

>>211667239
I pointed you to the way out. Most of them would fly you down, I don't know if most will hire you, so it's 50/50. The being flown down isn't the issue. They'd just deduct 700 out of the future 12000-30000.

>>211664598 (OP)
Australia

>>211667500
wow, was not expecting this one. whats your logic behind saying Australia? isn't it like one of the most regulated/restrictive places to live with lots of corruption? or is that just how outsiders like me perceive it? i think i'd get along great with the people ive seen from there and i already speak most of the language and know a lot of the cultural stuff. i can handle dangerous/venomous critters too.

>>211667644
Not alot of corruptions. Crew a ship going there, buy a ship there anchor it, start the process then crew another or work odd jobs. That's 6 months at least. To Austrialia 50 k all expenses paid at least plus probably 25 k tip if you just do your job and don't get hung over. They won't kick you off if you are in process plus you at that point would be a sailor and deck hang with your own mobile property and cash to pay. Once they see that's your job if you want it and you'd be rotating in and out and ships they leave your boat alone as you process. At least 3 years to get everything done unless you spend serious money this includes the trip out and set up then process. It gives you multiple skills sailing, deck hang stuff like ropes, if they ask why you say this where your job is which is crewing sail boat ships which proves you have income and you are there for income. I have a friend who did this.

>>211667847
Also id go to new Zealand because with their point system and having those skills you get points for having job training, having income coming from there, you have no crimsl record, you have income and you have job offers from there. You can be working a new Zealand cruiser's (large sail boat) ship that won't get there in 6 months.
You'd get enough points to get in id have to imagine

>>211664598 (OP)
You can come live with me for free as my own personal plaything. You will not have to do anything other than take estrogen, take care of yourself, eat somehow healthy and not be too messy. I work overtime and make a very high income for my country, so you'll be living very comfortably and will not have to deal with me often.

>>211667948
it was only a matter of time before someone said something like this kek

>>211667990
How cute are you? I am serious. You can come over and live with me. I could even get you some average job to start a bit and you won't have to pay rent or anything. Would be a good way to save up cash for a bit, build experience, then you can do whatever you want. If I were in your situation, I'd consider it. Sometimes good opportunities are just a matter of luck or grit, and you have neither, so the third best option is relying on a helpful hand.

>>211668057
oh, i 100% assumed this was a joke. the estrogen is a major dealbreaker, i'm not jacking up my body chemistry except as a absolute last resort. i'd have to be actively dying before i even considered something like that. but i have other issues with it too.

estrogen would not be enough to transform me into a femoboy, it's degrading slowly but i have years of intense training ive built my body with.

i would in no way describe myself as cute. i'm 5,8 but very clearly not feminine. i still have most of my winter beard, broad bones, lean and visible musles, veiny limbs, and ribs exposed due to malnourishment.

>>211667943
yeah, i don't think i'd go with nz. after looking it up that place would be like hell for me.
australia has a bunch of corruption in many areas and guns seem to be illegal, but the people there are so much more my speed. i'd actually consider giving up my gun/self defense rights to live in australia - it might be worth the risk. but in new zealand, while i might be wrong from what i gather they're really stiff and require proper manners/etiquette n shit, i can't stand that for more than a short period of time.

>>211668250
No offense but if you're 23 and still can't get your first step in the job market, I'd consider this a last resort situation. That's especially true considering the trajectory the job market worldwide is going. A jacked body is no issue and the estrogen will fatten you up nicely. You'd just have to take it easy on the physical training. I'm sure you have a very good potential to be a nice plaything. As for the opportunity, EU is a regulatory hell so it would take you a long time to build something. But the job I could get you is in a field that can find you work easily in any country you go on top of paying for international certifications you can carry over even after quitting. The hiring process could be very fast as well, after 2 weeks of arriving here you could start working. You don't need to be feminine, just shave, stay clean and be willing to do certain favors.

>>211668670
nah man, last resort isn't even close for me. i'd honesly rather resort to crime before estrogen.

>>211668857
Don't worry about that, after reading the thread and seeing what your plans are, I can assure you that soon enough you will have to resort to crime.

>>211668939
nah. i'll make it somehow.

>>211667286
>safety
Holy shit this guy is living in lalaland.

>>211669099
friendly reminder that you can fit almost 16 frances in Brazil both in terms of area and population. Places differ.

>>211664598 (OP)
Canada. Just claim political asylum.

>>211667160
America is the easiest country to get rich in. You just have to not be an utter retard like OP

>>211664598 (OP)
I could probably sell everything and live on a beach in a thirdie country for the rest of my life, it's very tempting
but I know i would go broke faster than I imagine

>>211664598 (OP)
North Sentinel Island