Australia is empty. How can we fix it?

>>211750454 (OP)
Empty it further

terraforming

Plenty of roos

Quite envious. I wish my country had 10m people and the average town had 1,200 people. No light pollution, no Mexicans, just one great, glorious frontier.

>>211750454 (OP)
you try setting up in the gibson desert and see how long you last

>>211750486
>endless frontier is just farmland and desert
Very cool bro, I'll go die of thirst.

>>211750454 (OP)
what secrets are they hiding in interior austrilia?

>>211750454 (OP)
>>211750476
Is it empty because of a lack of infrastructure and inability to support a big population? Or do people just not want to live inland?
>>211750486
All of that exists in the Rockies.

>>211750513
Aliens in Pine Gap

>>211750476
I don't understand why no one lives in I1 and I2 when the same climate types in SEA and India host literal billions of people

>>211750454 (OP)
>>211750454 (OP)
Unlimited migration from Africa

>>211750454 (OP)
>How can we fix it?
Import Indians

>>211750580
North Australia has less consistent annual rainfall and the soil is less productive - Indonesia has heaps of volcanoes that produce fertile soil that Australia doesn't have.
>>211750522
>Is it empty because of a lack of infrastructure and inability to support a big population? Or do people just not want to live inland?
A bit of both. There are inland cities like Canberra, Toowoomba and Ballarat but they're usually not far from a major coastal city and are all in the temperate climate zones.

Alice Springs only exists because, as the name suggests, there is a water source nearby, and its on the road from Adelaide to Darwin.

Alternatively you have Mount Isa which exists entirely due to the resource extraction industry in the area.

People don't just say "here is some open land, lets build", you need a reason and a means to survive.

>>211750454 (OP)
Let more blacks and pakis in. They know how to survive in a fucking desert.

>>211750522
Both. The government also has no interest in people leaving the major cities, since it would crater out inflated house prices and mean they have to build infrastructure. A lot of areas of the desert (except the middle) are also about the same temp as it gets in Vegas or are even cooler in some cases, but there's no way we'd ever get something like that, not even a shitty Phoenix or Albuquerque.

>>211750486
I would declare war on you and send 1B Brahmin to your country.

>>211750454 (OP)
build a big Amazon warehouse

>>211750476
TRVKE
DIG. THE. INLAND. SEA.

>>211750476
You'd have to destroy the great dividing range to do that.

>>211751052
I know Australia has a pretty nice social support network, but would you say your tax money goes far? Is your government slacking with subsidizing growth in the cities it does have? I had a buddy fly over to Melbourne for an apprenticeship and all the photos of the place looked kino

>>211750454 (OP)
Go back in time and settle it with humans before the 18th century

>>211750454 (OP)
By acquiring human resources from Southeast and South Asia

>>211751614
Mixed bag on our tax dollars. Our health system is good (a little burdened at times, but overall good since it's free) and the roads are well maintained in the highly urban areas. There's also a good amount of public transport, especially in Melbourne (infamous for having the largest tram network in the world) and also a subway system, constant trains, buses etc.

Major cities definitely get the most cash injection and attention from the government, while smaller cities are second class.

>>211750522
>>211751052
it's because of water, the American west (and other places that look dry but support people) are able do that because they have glacial melts from tall, all year round snow covered mountains. Not even Mt Kosciuszko has snow outside of the winter months.

We also generally have shit soils

The areas where we could genuinely build new cities are the northern rivers region of NSW (the whole region from the sunny coast to coffs is probably the best land in Australia), Margaret river in WA and Cairns (due to the tablelands). All fertile and get enough water (often too much)

>>211751614
The Australian beaucracy, as much as people complain about it, is remarkably efficient for a public service. It's why Australians tend to still have high trust in government, stuff does get delivered.

The major cities are genuinely cleaner, nicer and well run than anywhere else I've visited in the western world and the region are well maintained given how sparse they are.

The only real problem we have is housing due to a combination of immigration (both too much and a lack of trades), stupid housing investment incentives and NIMBYs.

>>211752068
Gippsland in Vic also has Appalachia style mountains and small towns with beautiful lakes and rivers, but somehow none of the towns ever expanded into cities. How people preferred living in Bendigo or Sheparton over something like Marysvile is beyond my understanding.

>>211752068
>The major cities are genuinely cleaner, nicer and well run than anywhere else I've visited in the western world
I think it's funny how people bitch about Melbourne or Brisbane, it just means they've literally never left the country and have no idea how just good things really are here.

>>211752152
>preferred living
They grew around industry. Bendigo had one of the richest goldfields on the planet, people came in droves, and once a city is established it becomes self-sustaining. Sheparton is based around agriculture in a similar way.

>>211750476
Are you sure that's a good idea ecologically? Greening the Sahara would kill the Amazon, for example.

>>211752230
In Texas, your state tax goes to the sinecure of some politician's child. Potholes everywhere, cops will rob you, and every part of the big cities (the only places with jobs) are warzones. Then your federal tax sustains the military,
I got a friend out in Sydney that makes the place out to be like Compton for some reason.

>>211752479
the one thing that truly boggled my mind about America when I learnt about it is how nearly every government post (like chief prosecutor, judges, sheriffs, sanitation) are elected. How the fuck does the public know about who is suited for these roles. It just seem like you get people good at raising money for themselves and not actually competent people.

>>211752479
Is Compton a bad thing? I'm not familiar with it. Our taxes defienently go to work for us, because people get really pissed off when we don't see it making a difference. It's most likely helped because our taxes are so high that we get irate if it's not being used in a way we can actually notice.

People in big cities tend to hate big cities, and Sydney is about as big as they come. It's overtly expensive and busy, so I can see why people would hate it. Melbourne is one of the outliers in infrastructure since it has an insane amount of focus on public transport and new projects, while some cities like Adelaide and Brisbane drag their heels on improving infrastructure.

>>211751758
Healthcare isn't free. You're clearly in a fortunate position to never really need it. Medicare and bulk billing has been aggressively gutted for decades now. Give it another 50 years and our system will look like what the yanks have now.

>>211752068
Can confirm about Aussie bureaucracy. I'm a Brit-German who has lived in the UK, Germany and is now in Australia and Australia is by far the best one in terms of public services being responsive and generally competent. Australia is actually quite "German" in how strict it is about enforcing regulations and abiding by the book, which I think is good for maintaining high standards and civilised behaviour

>>211750454 (OP)
We don't, it's better emptier, this place must've been fucking heaven on Earth when it only had 10 million people in it.

>>211752920
I've used it frequently and get bulk billed all the time, then just take the slow but free route with public hospitals. I'm planning on getting private care at some point since the ER at public hospitals has absolutely retarded wait times in recent years and the same goes for waiting for any surgeries.

>>211752974
Pretty accurate. I know Americans love to complain about the DMV and how that is hell, but I've only ever had quick and very easy interactions with our own department of transport since everything follows guidelines and rules so efficiently, so it's something I can't relate to in their media or posts. Same with the taxation department too, I'm not sure I've even had to call them before, all the tax forms are so easy to deal with.

>>211752844
Most don't know anything until some big stink pops up. Nowadays there's more info on sites like ballotpedia but it's still obscure. The sheriff in my area has had deputies who colluded with CCP agents and no one has said a word.
Some politicians openly do a shit job but they got an entry on their repertoire to show to show on a ballet and boom theyre elected by the public. Thats how Chesa Boudin, the son of a terrorist, got his gig ruining San Francisco. But honestly, since we have so many incompetent self serving politicians, it's best that these positions are elected. I don't trust any governor here to know what good merit looks like.
>>211752904
You know the ghetto areas in GTA San Andreas? That's Compton. It's a different now than in the 90s but if you're over there you're gonna have a guy pressing you about "where you from cuhz?" looking for issues.
My buddy drew parallels with what your OMGs and aboriginal do but it always seemed exaggerated

>>211753224
Australian bureaucracy only becomes a nightmare when you want to immigrate here (you could be a Swiss millionaire and they'll still treat you like a Biohazard lol) or when you want to deal with the Australian government abroad in things like Consulates/Embassies

>>211750454 (OP)
send more jeets

>>211753263
I've only spent a limited amount of time in Sydney, so I've not seen any of the shitty suburbs. I've no doubt they exist, but idk where they are.

>My buddy drew parallels with what your OMGs and aboriginal do but it always seemed exaggerated
OMGs?

Abbos are almost like an IRL version of racial caricatures, in that they drink all the time, aren't that bright, high level of homelessness etc and pretty much every meme about them is accurate. They're getting to be pretty rare in more recent years, I don't really see any in Melbourne or Adelaide anymore, but they still exist in droves in Northern Territory and northern Queensland. They make up something like 0.3% of the population of Victoria and South Australia as I recall, so you won't really see them there.

>>211753398
>when you want to deal with the Australian government abroad in things like Consulates/Embassies
Is that only if you're a non-citizen? I've not had to deal with them overseas yet but it'd be annoying if I needed their help one day while I'm on a holiday and they are completely shit at helping.

>>211753465
I'm the Pom-German so I deal with them as a foreigner yeah, but my Aussie mates who were abroad when COVID shenanigans started all share the same opinion that they were treated like scum by their own government during that time. One guy missed his sister's funeral because he wasn't being let inside the country and he'll still go into a (justified imo) apoplectic fit if you bring up the whole closure of the country then.
I've heard Aussie passports are also ludicrously expensive for no explicable reason.

>>211753440
Also note that some "Aboriginals" are just white folk wanting to feel special. Some blue eyed cunts will say they're Aboriginal even if they're white passing and look like any Anglo-Celtic Aussie, just for the social credit

>>211753625
COVID was a unique time, I'd be more interested in stories from when things weren't in that state.

>I've heard Aussie passports are also ludicrously expensive for no explicable reason.
I don't think so. It's been a while since I renewed mine (since they last 9 or 10 years). I had a quick look and US passports are about $250USD, so they're not too far of our price tag (pic related).

>>211753654
True, that shit is the funniest.

>>211752152
>Vic also has Appalachia style mountains
STOP USING OTHER COUNTRIES TO EXPLAIN WHAT AUSTRALIA IS LIIIIIIIKE!!!!!

>>211753910
That's how explaining something to someone works, anon.

>>211750454 (OP)
perfect place for a billion poojeets

>>211753910
using a familiar example is a pretty typical way of explaining how something else looks, feels, tastes etc

>>211753440
> OMGs
Biker gangs. I talked to a cop out in NZ and he made them out to be real hardheads but they mind their business.
What I gather about abos is that they live a certain way that I find weird (but dont care to change) but there's no ethnic or racial animosity. Like they'll do vandalism, but they rarely go overboard
>>211753654
We have the same thing here
Blue eyed whites, especially girls, larp as natives, but will NEVER verify their ancestry at a reservation (an ethnostate city for natives only that has its own branch of government who administers it, often highly violent) and live there. They don't do it for their benefit, it's just to larp. Very strange.
Mexicans larp as natives the most, but reservations turn them away because they rarely prove their ancestry

>>211752479
>In Texas, your state tax goes to the sinecure of some politician's child. Potholes everywhere, cops will rob you, and every part of the big cities (the only places with jobs) are warzones
literally none of that is true at all

>>211754199
>there's no ethnic or racial animosity
Bro are you kidding? There is extreme hostility from abbos towards everyone, especially white people. They basically hate every race that isn't their own and they've gone after Asians and Indians purely based on race. The thing is that they're pretty fat and can be tipped over, so they don't pose a threat if unarmed or not in a major group.

Ask any bus or train driver in this country about abbos and they will have a story about them shouting racial things at people and being kicked off for not having a ticket, then call the driver a racist for asking them to pay for a ticket.

>>211754366
That's unfortunate to hear. I figured the nonsense we have here would t exist there. Oh well.

>>211754508
It's different to the US. While you guys have black people burning shit down or robbing or looting pretty regularly, abbos are incapable of doing that here. They just aren't able to organize things or group together in numbers to do anything like that, they just give up pretty easy overall.

>>211754366
Growing up in a rural town, late night after every christmas pageant the aboriginals and greeks would get into 20+ man brawls outside the pub, you'd walk down the street the next day to find blood splattered everywhere, smashed bottles and windows, it's funny seeing people think it's purely a white vs black issue, you're right, they hate everyone, even the new africans.

>>211750454 (OP)
I am fixing it.

>>211750522
a curious thing about it is that there are so many flies in your face all the time

>>211755416
I'm not sure that's still a thing anymore, I almost never even get bugs on my windshield after driving around in the absolute rural areas. I heard something about how climate change or some shit has been killing off bugs in the last 20 years, and it seems like there might be some actual truth to it.

>>211750454 (OP)
make it even emptier by killing the anglos

>>211753654
it gets kind of pushed on them really and they go with it because why wouldn't you. i remember a guy i knew being put off by it and thinking it was stupid. i think abos are so embarrassing and also un-PC that they need to have a group they can pass off as abos who play nice.

>>211754957
i think they hate non-whites a bit more than they hate whites. they have some sort of relationship and understanding with whites, but non-whites are mostly newcomers, foreigners who couldn't care less and barely see real abos anyway.

>>211755677
I don't know what the fabric is like now with all the jeets, chinese and africans, back then greeks were the only real other "minority" around here. I bet they're wondering where all these cunts came from in the last 10 years too.

>>211756055
I've seen abbos in far north Qld go absolutely apeshit at Indians and they've even mistaken each other for being abbos or Indians. It lends a lot of credence to the theory that abbos are just Indians that came here a long time ago.

>>211756098
There's a huge mob around here that are full blooded but have the last name of Singh so it makes you wonder.

>>211755677
Yeah i think the fact that basically anyone who isnt anglo-celtic doesnt think of the selves as part of Australia as a colony really fucking pushes aborignals buttons

>>211753943
>>211753990
You need to develop the concept of Australia being its own centre from which to view other places. It's hard to explain to low IQ individuals, sorry. I hope you see what I mean some day.

We need to import thousands of big booty latinas

>>211750522
it's arid as fuck and can't grow much, as a result everything would have to be imported inwards which is expensive as shit, same with the north here

>>211750454 (OP)
What happens here?

It's all emu land, hands off

>>211750454 (OP)
Dig large rivers through Australia.

>how?
20 good germans.

>>211756098
Proof that you should import unlimited Indians to right historical wrongs

>>211757725
Go to the Gold Coast or inner city brisbane

>>211750580
lacking a big ass river

>>211758607
booking my flight now

>>211758786
Rebel rebel. XD

i env new worlders so much, their countries are HUGE

>>211758786
I would be an incel if not for latinas god bless them

>>211750580
Anywhere you have massive populations the explanation is some environmental quirk that creates outstandingly fertile land. It's true in India, in China, in Africa. It enables things like double harvests, which is why any place with such land and the weather that enables it has a habit of having long standing ancient empires.

>>211756098
>I've seen abbos in far north Qld go absolutely apeshit at Indians and they've even mistaken each other for being abbos or Indians.
Would love to see it

>>211755112
v_v