Happy Father's day
I took my son to look at some ruins and he hated them
What did you do with your dad/offspring today?

>>211764513 (OP)
My dad is dead.

Want to pretend that I am your son?

Pappa pappa what are those ruins tell me more about them!

>>211764513 (OP)
I'm never gonna be a father

>>211764545
and
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>>211764513 (OP)
You drove 5 hours to encarnacion?

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>>211764513 (OP)
>I took my son to look at some ruins and he hated them
future chud award

>>211764611
This

>>211764513 (OP)
>he hated them
teen or preteen? preteens don't complain much, teens do it a lot more
either way he'll remember that you took him exploring

>>211764513 (OP)
> he hated them
He will remember that visit fondly, keep being a good parent anon

>>211764611
I'm attracted to the idea of being a father, but when I think about the sheer amount of responsibility that comes with raising a child I don't think I could do it. Those responsibilities I can imagine are probably only like 20% of what a parent has to do, in reality there's way more stuff I don't even know about.

It's the same thing with having a girlfriend. Obviously I want sex and I like the idea of having someone else in my life, but am I really capable of dealing with all the extra responsibilities of being in a relationship? Am I capable of compromise and giving adequate attention to a woman and keeping her entertained and finding activities for us to do? Honestly, probably not.

>>211766090
not married nor do i have any kids of my own but... don't knock em till you try em, bud
sometimes all you need is just a little push, and you'll find out eventually how capable you actually are

Godspeed, man

>>211766090
We're biologically built to raise children. People always overestimate the difficulties of raising one. Yes, it's not gonna be easy, but you'll adapt. People (including you) are more resilient than they think, you might not think you're prepared, but you actually are so long as you're not mentally ill or an addicted.

>>211766466
I have never felt like having kids. Where’s the biological bit in that?

>>211766497
If you're young then baby fever hasn't hit you yet so give it time, if you're older (30+) then you're an outlier, an exception, but not the rule.

>>211766497
have you never felt horny?

>>211766090
most parents are absolute morons, it doesnt really matter

>>211766792
Are birth-control pills not a thing in Finland?
>>211766612
>dude it’s a biological law
>counterexamples? Just an outlier, doesn’t count.
Much rigor. Very soience.

>>211764513 (OP)
It wasnt father's day today

>>211764611
this
god its depressing

>>211766875
You're anecdotal "counterexample" isn't a legitimate example as having children is considered normalcy. It's 100 percent biological for us to want to have children and if you don't want them then you're either young or malfunctioned. So which one is it are you young or a bitter old fuck?

>>211764545
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>>211767409
Laws involve universal quantifiers.
>all objects in constant motion remain in said motion unless subjected to external forces
That’s a law
>all biological beings want children
>some don’t, but they’re outliers
That’s a no-true-Scotsman fallacy

>>211764611
thing is I can't even really take care of myself. And I know this doesn't stop other people from getting children, but the idea of becoming a parent feels as likely as going to the moon or something

>>211764513 (OP)
It's not father's day however

>>211767479
We're perfectly curated to creating life, that's our purpose, to reproduce. Without reproducing our species dies so yes going against our biological purpose makes you to be an outlier.

>>211767595
Your statement fails at a basic counterexample. Not just me. Tons of people in history did not care too much about siring children. So you can yap all you want, your proposition needs a single counterexample to fail.

>>211767641
Where is the fault in my argument? Our existence depends on people reproducing, if you don't reproduce then you're going against our existence thus an outlier, malfunctioned.
>Tons of people in history did not care too much about siring children
And billions more people decided to have children. This isn't an argument as the people who decide to have children is far greater than those that decide not to.

>>211767800
>all apples are red
>here’s a green apple
>dude, it’s just an outlier. All apples are red because I said so.
That’s a classic no true Scotsman.

>>211767845
Prove to me this is a Scotsman. Which is considered normal in society having children or not having children?

i wanna join you guys but i realize all my arguments would be anecdotals, i'm not smart enough for academic-tier language

>>211768078
Trust me, the kraut and I are both morons who think we're smart.

>>211768181
the first step is self-awareness

>>211767945
You are retarded if you are failing to understand what I’m saying.

>>211768755
I know what you're saying, but your argument is depended on using a terminology that you don't even know how to probably use. My argument isn't a no true Scotsman, our existence depends on reproducing, it's why we have biological urges to reproduce. There isn't a counter argument against that, this is a fact and if you're against this then you're going against our biological order which literally makes you an outlier.

>>211769410
You “defend” your argument when presented with a counterexample by discarding counterexample. This isn’t even sophistry, this is just dumb.
>b-b-but it’s le societal norm
And it was the norm for men to wear wigs and stockings. So?

>>211769513
*by discarding the counterexample

>>211764513 (OP)
Cool ruins doe

>>211769513
What counter example did you present other than throwing around examples to a phrase that has no use in this conversation?
>And it was the norm for men to wear wigs and stockings. So?
Reproducing is larger than just a social norm, it's biological. Where are you even trying to go with this?