Citizens of the Soviet Union, we are dissolving our Great Country, contrary to the results of the referendum for its preservation, and destroying all comfy because the representatives of the West patted me on the shoulder and called me “our Gorby” and promised to show me in every Western movie as a positive friendly character. They are the nice guys so there is no point in being a threat to them. And in the next few years you will face destructive liberal economic reforms proposed by an American advisor on Russia from CIA, a disgraceful weak-willed pro-American president, poverty, unemployment, hunger, AIDS epidemic on the background of heroin addiction, bankruptcy and decline of all social spheres, in particular medicine, rampant organized crime and large-scale corruption, bloody wars over disputed territories in almost the entire post-Soviet space and, of course, widespread ALCOHOLISM. Goodbye, my dear fellow citizens! And I am urgently resigning as president of the USSR, because they are waiting for me on the set of Pizza Hut, since childhood I dreamed of starring in a pizza commercial (laughs).

Cia made me do krokodil ili ugodno

"Pizza Hut! Gather 'round the good stuff!"

How did people afford heroin and alcohol if they became poor silly
How did post-soviet countries afford the wars if they were so broke silly

In all reality, the USSR had been grinding to a halt for almost 20 years - the entire Brezhnev era was a showcase of the fact that the government didn't really believe it could achieve communism itself and the people didn't either. It was settling into the routines of a poor country that would remain poor forever if something didn't change, hindsight is 20/20 on the changes that happened but it was better than willful stagnation

>>211818025
anti-you = good

>>211818053
you disgust me

>>211817896 (OP)
Gem

>>211818053
>pRoPeRtY tHeFt

>>211817896 (OP)
Alcoholism and drug abuse and prostitution and poverty NEVER EVER EVER existed in the Soviet Union.
Just don't ask why male life expectancy was 60.

Gorby saved Russia from civil war II which would be like Ukraine but the entire country and worse, because Ukrainians would have been nazis for real and used gas. Russians who complain about Gorbachev should complain about the state of the mighty CCCCCCCCP Party first.

>>211818162
The Western imperialists made them do it or however the plow is steamed

>>211817921
https://life.ru/p/1226768

>>211818063
>>211818126
Get a job.

>>211818163
Most of ukies supported the preservation of the ussr though.

>>211818162
Okay, zoomer.
- There was no drug addiction in the USSR, people, except for a couple of marginalized people, didn't know what it was.
- There were no beggars in the USSR. There were no beggars at all.
- There were no homeless people in the USSR, everyone had their own housing, the state guaranteed it. There were no people living in tents like on the streets of Sydney.
- There was no prostitution in the USSR, it was condemned by society at all levels.
- There was alcoholism in the USSR, but within reasonable limits of any country, not at the level of the Russia's 90s.
- In the USSR, if you wanted a divorce, first you were both called to a Komsomol meeting to explain the reason, and if you couldn't reconcile, you were divorced. The fact of the divorce was printed in the local newspaper and was a shameful moment for the divorced couple. The Komsomol regarded divorce as an “immoral act” and conducted preventive talks to preserve the family.

>>211817972
Most hilarious moment of the 20th century

is OP a KGB shill or is he an unironic zoomer not even cognizant of there being such an event as the August 1991 Soviet coup attempt

>>211818348
(which is why the USSR was dissolved in the first place)
>inb4 the Communist hardliners were duh CIA frfr

>>211817896 (OP)
Thank you, Vladimir Putin, for getting us out of this shit.

>>211818376
almost

>>211818376
putin? that KGB patsy?
he's only getting you BACK in
fun fact:
even under Brezhnev you had fewer political prisoners

>>211818273
XDDD

>>211818390
>even under Brezhnev you had fewer political prisoners
Oh Alexei Navalny is a fighter for European values and freedom against a bloody regime!!!
1. aka Russian nazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yba-LJ8clgc

2. aka rented an entire bar for his party to meet with an American advisor (who participated in the partition of Yugoslavia) 200 km away from the US embassy
And this in the midst of political elections in which he participated.
https://youtu.be/OLsR0Y9eFO8?t=144

LOL

>>211818390
>Brezhnev
Golden times

>>211818118
K-kino...

>>211818390
>he's only getting you BACK in
You've been promising us this for so many years. But in fact, you are the only one who has serious problems because of your own sanctions.

>>211818025
>How did people afford heroin and alcohol if they became poor silly
Heroin was incredibly cheap and very poor quality, quite a few died from it, alcohol was made in any basement to sell and survive.

>>211818521
xD
well, poopt- err KGB is bringing you back into the 1950s
the soviet 1950s...

>>211818582
bro our nominal GDP has literally surpassed $1 trillion right now, our nominal export surpassed yours in 2023, you can also check the exchange rate... and we're not manipulating any data, exchange rate or anything
our inflation was at 10% for a couple months, now it's at 3%

what the fuck are you saying, oh you! my eastern bydło! lmao

>>211818747
why don't you compare debt with russia

>>211818053
Now it's the other way around, apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmHv6y4HQbA

>>211818752
Poland's debt-to-GDP ratio: 48%
the vast majority of it domestic, złoty-denominated, too

>>211818756
>posting Tucker the CIA operative's psyop which was successful: it made a mockery of propagandized NATO member state citizens
xD

>>211817896 (OP)
I find it hilarious how your nation's oligarchs successfully blamed Gorbachev and you all ate their bullshit while they dismantled your nation for profit.

>>211818768
and russia

>>211818788
and your point? am i speaking to some neolib austerity-fan? eww

>>211818747
And what does Poland produce for such GDP? You have neither resources nor significant brands, you mean Poland's economy is kept on GOG and CD Projekt?

>>211818787
>your nation's oligarchs
i find it hilarious how you think oligarchs exist and the KGB doesn't.
protip - there are no oligarchs, there is only the KGB.

>>211818799
you are speaking to a communist

>>211818800
we produce this:
>POLAND OVERTAKES SPAIN NEXT YEAR: IMF
And you zipperhead will claim Poland ISN'T developed. The GALL of you LMFAO. By the way, I bet we've already overtaken you in standard of living quite a few years ago
>Poland, 2026: $58,250
>Spain, 2026: $58,150
Polish GDP per capita, adjusted to the CoL will surpass the Spanish one next year according to the IMF
At the same time, Poland will have reached additional records:
>80% of Germany's standard of living, and 65% of America's level.
>Back in 2019, Poland was at 60% of Germany's and 55% of America's

In addition, Poland just elected a based far-right chad as President again (the office cockblocking ANY potential bad move of the government; since the outgoing pres has already been doing this, as far as politics is concerned, we're golden forever, baby)

I've stopped idolizing the Soviet Union once I grew up but I'm also past the edgy, ironic anti-commie neocon posture. The Soviet Union was a source of stability globally and thats a fact. Theyre not the ones who backed demons with long beards playing soccer with severed heads; they were the ones building huge dams in brotherly countries and infinitely resupplying Egypt and Syria for free when these two were fighting a Western outpost in the Middle East. The world went to shit a few years after its collapse and the beacon of watchful steel and iron it once incarned to demolish tribalists, billionaires and religious extremists of all kinds is no more. That's a fact. I couldn't care less about the fate of bitchy states like Estonia and Latvia when the SU kept American imperialism in check and was powerful enough to deter them from reckless aggression. Dont even get me started about that den of criminal thieves and mafias of all kinds that is Ukraine, just a miniaturisation of the current Russian Federation.

>>211818833
pic related

>>211818833
>And you zipperhead will claim Poland ISN'T developed. The GALL of you LMFAO. By the way, I bet we've already overtaken you in standard of living quite a few years ago
sorry, i copy-pasted a post from a Jap-flag OP thread...

>>211818348
>>211818390
why didn't shill OP respond to this >>211818348 post

>>211818810
They're the same thing. Don't half of all oligarchs have former KGB ties anyways?

>>211818857
the KGB was the source of instability globally, among others being responsible for the anti-nuclear Green peacenik movements in Germany and elsewhere, also responsible for much of the poverty in the Third World, but go off, retard

>>211818887
the Truth of the oligarchic system itself being a creation of the post-communist KGB defuses "but muh pooptin whacked muh oligarchs" and nothing boils the blood of the zegroid zombie harder than the Real Truth (pravda, in russian)

I would support preservation of USSR only to continue occupy Poland and make Polacks butthurt

>>211818787
Okay, zoomer.
They did seize power in the country in the 90s by privatizing people's property, but they never blamed Gorbachev. Moreover, they tried to preserve the power structure established under Yeltsin and fought against Putin. According to Vladimir Putin, in the first days of his presidency, an oligarch burst in on him and said that he was not the president, they were in charge, and if they wanted, Putin would be gone. Which did not please the former FSB chief. In fact, the oligarchs declared war on the legitimate government. After that, the oligarchs started to die in accidents, some went to prison for economic crimes, some fled Russia and hanged themselves in a British bunker on their favorite scarf, and some of them signed an agreement (and Putin openly spoke about it) that the oligarchs do not get involved in politics and serve the interests of the state, in return the state will not revise the results of privatization, in fact, making the remaining oligarchs a tool of the state. On each of their strategically important property there is a department of the FSB, which not only protects this property, but also monitors the actions of the oligarchs. Oligarchs in Russia are non-public persons, they are not noted anywhere, they do not give interviews, the media does not report on them, except for Abramovich, who is an intermediary between Russia and the EU in some cases, as well as the organizer of the exchange of Ukrainian prisoners. In fact Putin has won the war with the oligarchs. This is a fact that is hard to deny. So don't get smart with your superficiality.

can poland be proud of anything as of today other than being an obedient whore

>>211818918
you thought the same in 1989 which is why it survived a couple years longer. only a couple, though xD
now all you have left is seething in seemingly endless poverty. just like the 90s, eh

>>211818984
except with the election of Nawrocki we've proven we're not "obedient" and that's why your commietard ass is seething so hard
but to answer your question, yes, three things that I think would interest you are
>1. Poland's export surpassed Russia's in 2023 ($469 billion vs $465 billion)
>2. 51% of Poland's export value is created by domestic Polish-owned companies, the highest % of any post-communist country
>3. Poland's forex reserves surpassed Russia's
a true and total success story if i've ever seen one

FUCK COMMIES
throw em off helicopters

> xD
the heights of intellectualism
>>211819077
>we're not obedient
pis to obłuda

>>211818921
cool a new cope pasta just dropped

USSR collapse was inevitable due to the fact of engaging in international trade with capitalist countries, thus introducing money into its economy. This surplus money made the upper crust of the party to be able to accumulate capital (something which they couldnt do with the state-owned enterprises). With accumulation comes a push for privatization reforms.


Unfortunatly, Marx never finished his work on international trade, this is one of the main reason why marxists struggle to explain why socialism fail

Its seems to be that the only way socialism can win its if it happens as in a chain reaction globally, thats why Marx & Engels believed it need to happen in the western more advanced countries and then it would spread globally

>>211818025
you know that afghanistan is not far from russia, right?
moreover heroin was of very shitty quality
no one controlled the situation, there was no money to organize border protection, the police was actually destroyed as a structure for some time, they were in some cases stopped even paying salaries - all this was used by the criminal world

>>211817896 (OP)
America always wins, baby

>>211819115
Well, then why did you come here?

>>211819139
>homelesness epidemics
>school shootings
>civil war in xxi century

>>211819139
>America always wins, baby

>>211819155
>Memes
Talking crazy ain't gone get you nothing but choked and that jealousy is only gone leave you broke

>>211819170
you're talking to a self-professed communist, m8, watch out:
>>211818811
watch out CUZ THE TRANNY MIGHT KILL HIMSELF SOON LMFAOOOO

>>211819168
>The same pic of the same street in Philly that's always posted
Youre better than that Yorgi
That's one street in one city, your entire country looks like that

>>211819170
are you planning on fixing homelessness
or is it going to get worse

>>211817896 (OP)
>poverty, unemployment, hunger, AIDS epidemic on the background of heroin addiction, bankruptcy and decline of all social spheres, in particular medicine, rampant organized crime and large-scale corruption, bloody wars over disputed territories in almost the entire post-Soviet space and, of course, widespread ALCOHOLISM

all of this was literally a product of communism where useless people and bad genes are spreading with no filter

>>211819094
>t.ranny
>>211819189
are you planning on fixing your "gender dysphoria"
nothing fixes it except a magik

>>211819201
za prl-u nie było lgbt

>>211819189
Nobody is homeless here who doesn't want to be. Darwinism is real

>>211819219
that's how you explain your dysphoria? splendid, it should only hasten your conclusion

>>211819291
z jakiego kraju wzięło się tęczo-sam-wiesz-co
powiedz mi czy to jest promowane na kubie, w korei północnej, iraku, syrii

>>211818162
What period are we talking about? About the WWII? By the mid-1960s, life expectancy in the USSR was 70 years. The USSR experienced massive and most severe destruction during WWII and has been recovering for several decades. It's so easy to live on an island with kangaroos - think about it more often when you build your opinion about other countries.

>>211819187
>That's one street in one city, your entire country looks like that
No part of my country looks like that, lol. Nowhere in my country have I seen crowds of schizophrenics and zombie-junks living on the street, and they exist in every state and every city in the United States. But that's not the worst part- the worst part is that the state doesn't give a shit about them. In Russia, the governor goes to prison for such things.

>>211819122
this

>>211819421
Moscow is not Russia, zigger

Marx hated Russia and called all Russians subhumans though. Imagine larping to a man who hated you kek

fun fact: production of toilet paper in the USSR started in only 1969 and remained a luxury deficit commodity until the very end

>>211817896 (OP)
Hey, folks, so we're calling it quits with the USA, even though the people wanted it to stick around. The reason? Well, the folks from the East kinda liked me, called me "our Trumpie," and promised to make me look good in all their movies. They seemed so nice, so I figured why mess with them.

Now, here's what's gonna hit you in the next few years: super tough economic reforms from some russian dude from the SVR, a weak-ass pro-China president, tons of poverty, unemployment, hunger, an AIDS epidemic, heroin addiction, bankruptcies, a mess in healthcare, a ton of organized crime and corruption, bloody wars over land everywhere in the former USA, and, of course, a whole lot of ALCOHOLISM!

So, yeah, I'm stepping down as president of the USA. They're waiting for me at "Avtovaz", and I've always wanted to be in a russian auto commercial. Haha xD

>>211819441
Drop your VPN, pigger

>>211817896 (OP)

>>211817896 (OP)
Oh and I forgot to mention, they are going to blame our widespread welfare state and security net as the reasons for this economic asteroid.

>>211817972
I remember my father and me watching the commercial when I was a kid (although I thought it was much earlier than 98) and I thought it was a nice and well-made ad, but my father looked disgusted and he said "look at this sell-out motherfucker".

>>211818025
Bro just shut up. You know nothing of Reagan's aggressive foreign policy doctrine

>>211818053
That is Yeltsin. Do you even history?

>>211818163
Ukrainians are nazis for real though.

I've come to complain about recent Russian activities in Kaliningrad concerning using electronic warfare jammers. I don't give a shit about GPS but jamming 4G is extra cruel. If you don't stop I am gonna go to the border and sling a bag of feces on the fence.

>>211818787
>while they dismantled your nation

It hasn't reached to that point yet, although it is what your state wants i.e. a complete dissasembly/balkanisation of Russia.

>>211818833
You didn't answer his question

>>211819191
>KGB created AIDS o algo

>>211818893
>for the anti-nuclear Green peacenik movements in Germany

Oh dear Manitu, that is 50s propaganra in the 80s. The fucking usa brought missiles in the borders with east Germany, you absolute fucking retard, you probably have a Brzesinski poster in your room. MILLIONS of workers protested the installment of the missiles in the border, and such a movement is what we are missing now! Very dearly missing!! You already had a radioactive cloud flying over Poland two years aho when the Uranium depot blew up.

>>211818921
>On each of their strategically important property there is a department of the FSB, which not only protects this property, but also monitors the actions of the oligarchs

Probably whaylt is happening with the Pentagon/cia in Microsoft, Pfizer, Amazon, Meta etc.

>>211819122
>USSR collapse was inevitable due to the fact of engaging in international trade with capitalist countries, thus introducing money into its economy. This surplus money made the upper crust of the party to be able to accumulate capital (something which they couldnt do with the state-owned enterprises). With accumulation comes a push for privatization reforms.

More or less on the right path, but it doesn't have to do with international trade as much as capitalism needing to upgrade and for that Russia would have to become like China (which it eventually did).


>this is one of the main reason why marxists struggle to explain why socialism fail

That is why "marxists" are religious dimb dumbs, there is only historical materialism, not marxism, and historically-orientated analysts could explain the collapse of the regime, which waa capitalist and not socialist.

>>211818857
In other words, the world has become monopolar.

>>211817921
https://archive.org/details/TimeUSMeddlingOnRussia/mode/1up

>>211821213
Does it seem monopolar now?

>>211821421
Right now it feels like a period of transition. A period of struggle. We will see in the future. The American oligarchs will never give up their dominant role and the role of the dollar in world settlements under any circumstances.

>>211821483
Like Asterix said:"the sky is going to fall on our heads".

We need a decisive anti-war front. Workers movements are the only solution to stop nuclear escalation.

>>211817896 (OP)
>you will face destructive liberal economic reforms proposed by an American advisor on Russia from CIA, a disgraceful weak-willed pro-American president, poverty, unemployment, hunger, AIDS epidemic on the background of heroin addiction, bankruptcy and decline of all social spheres, in particular medicine, rampant organized crime and large-scale corruption, bloody wars over disputed territories in almost the entire post-Soviet space and, of course, widespread ALCOHOLISM
Maybe for you, boy, but we had smooth sailing overall
Thanks Gorby!

>>211817921
im a russian patriot and heres a random ass link as a response

И тaкoгo пидapacтa нeктo нe нaкaзaл

>>211822915
What are you saying? Do you speak greek?

>>211821584
Because you are an instrument without sovereignty.

>>211822915
This. The faggot died before he could answer for his actions.

>>211822968
Ναι, τέτοιον πούστη δεν τον τιμώρησε κανείς.

>>211817896 (OP)
>single handedly killed the most powerful communist country so he could star in a Pizza Hut commercial
Based Gorbachev

>>211818787
high iq post

the hull of the ship was breached by brezhnev and gerontocracy after him, gorbachev just was left to be a captain of sinking ship

>>211824002
A captain of a sinking ship goes down with the ship, he doesn't take pictures with the iceberg.

>>211817896 (OP)
KWAB

>>211818783
>>211818434
>>211819030
>>211818712

>XD
>XDDD
>xD
>XXD

polack's rage

>>211823753
I don't know what the fuck was he thinking. Maybe the boomer myth of his wife being a CIA agent sabotaging the country has some merit

>>211824002
truth nuke
brezhnev and especially subhumans ustinov are the reason for ussr terminal decline
gorby and to a lesser extent eltsyn were left to pick up the pieces
sablin was right about late soviet gerontocracy

>>211818273
you forgot to mention the soviet ice cream

>>211823753
>most powerful communist country
Even if the Soviets survived they still would've been utterly mogged by China.
They were an economic dead end.