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Anonymous Brazil No.211899888 [Report] >>211900270 >>211900340
>While at the University of Essex, he joined various political organisations including ComSoc (the University Communist Society) and the Troops Out Movement, which campaigned for a British withdrawal from Northern Ireland. Varoufakis was elected secretary of the Black Students Alliance, a choice that caused some controversy, given that he is not black, to which he responded "that black was a political term and, as a Greek, on the grounds of ethnicity he had as much reason to be there as anyone else."
Anonymous Italy No.211900150 [Report] >>211901169 >>211901362
He's more popular outside of Greece, his party failed to be re-elected in Greece last time. I think Greeks dislike him because he has a very rich wife so he comes across as a champagne socialist
Anonymous Austria No.211900270 [Report] >>211900385 >>211900413 >>211900455 >>211901628
>>211899888 (OP)
>Varoufakis was elected secretary of the Black Students Alliance, a choice that caused some controversy, given that he is not black, to which he responded "that black was a political term
I just thought he was a old school pro open border communist, I didn't know that he was also a racial justice warrior in favor of ethnic division.
That makes me like him even less.
Some of his globalist capitalist critique is alright, but everything else seems to be retarded.
Why don't leftists just focus on the economics rather than this divise social justice(that's exactly what billionaires and cooperations want) bs?
Anonymous Bulgaria No.211900340 [Report]
>>211899888 (OP)
Varoufakis is absolutely excellent as an economist. As a politician...
Anonymous Brazil No.211900385 [Report] >>211900597 >>211900960
>>211900270
Because euro communists are just disguised American liberals, you should stick with national bolshevins instead
Anonymous Austria No.211900413 [Report] >>211900597
>>211900270
I mean really modern Leftists with their pro mass migration and pro ethnic division politics unironically are the best pawns of rich people.
It's so ridiculous, do they really not see that that's exactly what those globalist billionaires and cooperations they pretend to be against want?
Anonymous Canada No.211900455 [Report] >>211900597
>>211900270
>Why don't leftists just focus on the economics rather than this divise social justice
Hijacked by intersectionalists and perpetual activists who want to transform the left into a vehicle for everything: Palestine, gay and trans rights, climate, etc.
Anonymous Sweden No.211900499 [Report]
Varoufakis is a 3rdworldist shill
Anonymous Argentina No.211900597 [Report] >>211900746 >>211900806
>>211900413
>>211900385
>>211900455
>Le left... Is internationalist? No... This can't be... Le based left of before was trad and redrilled... Engels definitely never wrote about the need to abolish the nuclear family, Feminism, and nation... Le left is secretly based

Lmao retards like you is why all of Russia oligarchy are Soviet Jewish remnants
Anonymous Austria No.211900746 [Report] >>211901001
>>211900597
I'm not a leftist, but it's pretty obvious that there are big problems with the current globalist capitalist system.
Fewer and fewer international cooperations and billionaires control more and more wealth and power.
And it's extremely difficult for individual nations to control them, it's obviously not sustainable unless you want to end up in a dystopia where 0.000001% of people control 99% of the world's wealth.
Anonymous Brazil No.211900806 [Report] >>211900872
>>211900597
>abolish the nuclear family, Feminism, and nation

Compare north Korea with united kingdom and think again which one is closer to this
Anonymous Argentina No.211900872 [Report] >>211901066
>>211900806
>Compare north Korea with united kingdom
Lots of random dictators put up some communist larp for political opportunism.
If you read marx or Engels the concussion is pretty self evident in regards to traditional values or nation
Anonymous Argentina No.211900960 [Report]
>>211900385
>national bolshevins
What does that even mean
The bolsheviks (a party which doesn't exist anymore) were openly against nationalism. Orthodox Marxism considers the concept of the "nation" to be a form of superstructural mystification created by the bourgeoisie to divide the proletariat. Nations are to be abolished under Marxism.
Just say national socialist.
Anonymous Argentina No.211901001 [Report] >>211901260
>>211900746
Okay but varoufakis is a communist.
The globalist endgame of capitalism is seen as useful for communists because they deem it a good way to erode the national capital and notions of nationhood creating and homogenizing a global proletariat unified by the only common denominator they share in a cultureless and nationless world: class
The relation these atomized commodified labour units share across all levels by contrast of the Bourgeoise

Communism does not necessarily oppose using capitalism for accelerationist purposes, marx praised the capital as fuel of prosperity and abundance in it's inception.
The only real opposition to globalism is nationalism
Which communism opposes ideologically
Anonymous Brazil No.211901066 [Report] >>211901199 >>211901247 >>211901288
>>211900872
I'm not telling Marxism is the solution for anything but is clearly that the globalization brought by the capitalism is imploding the western society
Anonymous Germany No.211901123 [Report]
Incredibly based. He should have crashed the Euro without survivors, too bad SYRIZA leadership betrayed him.
Anonymous Germany No.211901169 [Report]
>>211900150
His party literally got coup'ed by a fucking American banker you homofascist.
Anonymous Brazil No.211901199 [Report]
>>211901066
i love it when the people who can't even speak English try to convey a notion of how the world works
Anonymous Argentina No.211901247 [Report]
>>211901066
The alternative to international capitalism is not exclusively international communism tho
Anonymous Germany No.211901260 [Report] >>211901586 >>211902030
>>211901001
Dude, you live in fucking Argentina, a post-napoleonic masonic colonial settler state that literally obliberated dozens of unique and original human cultures that got rich from being a British shadow-colonial outpost. If you want to fucking return to tradition why don't you go back to rural Sicily?
Anonymous Argentina No.211901288 [Report] >>211901380 >>211901737
>>211901066
>the globalization that was spurred by neomarxists in the 1960s is actually the fault of capitalism
Pro-capitalism leaders like Margaret Thatcher spoke heavily against immigration back in the day. It was always the leftists who wanted more immigration and open borders. You have it completely sideways.
Anonymous Greece No.211901362 [Report]
>>211900150
Yes, plus some other incidences that paint a picture of a cunt (albeit a confident one). In his place we elected genuine retards and corrupt men because they tell it like it is™. We're very American in this part
Anonymous Germany No.211901380 [Report] >>211901586 >>211901618
>>211901288
>Pro-capitalism leaders like Margaret Thatcher spoke heavily against immigration back in the day.

And then she created the European common market as its chief architect that explicitly included freedom of movement of hundreds of millions of workers just right after Ronald Reagan granted the biggest migrant amnesty in human history.

Why do retards like you keep droning on about lame speeches as if they fucking mattered and ignore the actual policy?
Anonymous Argentina No.211901586 [Report]
>>211901260
nta but
>a post-napoleonic masonic colonial settler state that literally obliberated dozens of unique and original human cultures
We killed very few natives actually, we mostly just fucked their women so hard they ceased to exist as separate cultures. It's why this country is full of mestizos nowadays.
>>211901380
>letting Poles work cleaning toilets in London is the real issue, please ignore the Labourites giving citizenship to millions of pakis and jailing anybody who complains
retard
Even letting actual browns in to work doesn't really matter as long as you don't give them citizenship. It works just fine for the Gulf Arabs. The issue is that Western Europeans had leftwing parties that made migrant workers into citizens so they could then bring over their families and all vote for the left and reinforce the trend.
Anonymous Austria No.211901618 [Report]
>>211901380
Sure defending neocons like Thatcher and Regan while hating neolibs is pretty dumb since there obviously is little difference between the two.
Thatcher with her reforms obviously paved the way for Blair.
But Blair was arguably the bigger traitor, since as a labour leader he was supposed to represent British workers but in reality did everything to fuck them over.
Anonymous Argentina No.211901625 [Report]
You don't even know who Enoch Powell is btw. He was the last European politician who wanted TND unironically.
Anonymous Hungary No.211901628 [Report] >>211901749
>>211900270
Leftism was always about social justice you absolute retard. The whole shtick was that the imperialist Western countries are oppressing the global poor and that is why they are rich. Look up any old Soviet poster, it was always pure 3rd worldism
Anonymous Argentina No.211901737 [Report] >>211901896 >>211902075 >>211902467
>>211901288
>thatcher le good
Lol you don't understand the nature of capitalism if you are under the delusion that the capital, which is an ever expanding market force which is also technocratic and oughts for maximization of efficiency, will admit borders long term, despite the forementioned being detrimental to the production of commodities and further expansion of the capital.
The capital is inherently globalist, it will always seek ways to invade mrkets snd by invading markets you are homogeneizing cultures and labour markets, commodity exchange and consumer markets.


Capitalism was always liberal and liberalism pro-open everything
Anonymous Hungary No.211901749 [Report]
>>211901628
The most common criticism against the United States was that they were racist against black people
These historic "trad" leftists who care about the "economy" or whatever never existed. Do you think coal miners were reading Marx in their past time?
Anonymous Argentina No.211901896 [Report] >>211902285
>>211901737
>Capitalism was always pro-open borders
>from 1750 to 1950 Western Europe was 99% white
>from 1960s (when Neomarxism takes root in Western Europe) to the present they got infested with niggers and Muslims
>this has got to be capitalism's fault
Amazing work at logic, retard.
Anonymous Argentina No.211902030 [Report]
>>211901260
>that literally obliberated dozens of unique and original human cultures
Thats part of nature, only one culture gets to get the role as dialectical master, kumbaya is actual delusion.
The only way to attain equalty under any possible configuration is by putting down the irregular elements
We didnt shared national project with those peoples
Also argentina since inception was heavily influenced by the catholic church, the masonic elements were also present but not necessarily the only ones.
>If you want to fucking return to tradition
I dint want to "retire and have a nice life", i yearn conflict.
and tradition is used in the text to refer a set of more reactionary values perennial to history for the preservation of one own kind, not by necessity some "older thing"
To be abundant and reproduce is part of what it entails, you have a very limiting worldview.
Capitalism and communism are very destructive, they are first ideologies and purely that.
An ideology is a function of its own, it might kill their hosts, sterilize them and turn them into deplorable mockeries of they used to be, irrelevant so long the ideology reproduces itself
Anonymous Hungary No.211902075 [Report] >>211902456 >>211902542
>>211901737
>which is an ever expanding market force which is also technocratic and oughts for maximization of efficiency
Kek do you really believe this after the past decade? If after all these years you still believe that rich people and corporations don't have any priorities other than money then I don't even know what to tell you. After decades affirmative action hiring, billion dollar grifting industries propped up where obese black women gets paid 6 figures to teach anti-rape techniques to the workforce, entire departments that not just do not create any value at all but actually hinder work? Even in my country there are diversity hires in Product Manager and similar position so they hit the quota. Some of them have no technical skills at all, literally don't understand anything about the work so they actually hinder people because the message still has to go through them.

People like Pierre Omidyar just threw 250 mil to launch The Intercept. He does not even oversee the thing, he checks on them like twice a year, does not even have editorial control, it does not make any money either. The only actual money oriented people are lower and middle class people because they have no other choice. This "rich people only care about money" is the biggest bullshit the left came up with, it is the single most debunked and false myths if you bother to look around for a few minutes and observe that left wing people will literally burn money with no returns just to promote a cause.
Anonymous Argentina No.211902285 [Report]
>>211901896
Almost as if time moved forwards and once capitalism reachs a threshold where there is more energy in the form of commodities produced than it is consumed (a thing that didnt happen until the 1930s aproximately) the behaviour of the system begins altering to exploit the full potential of the produced goods and labour....


Do you understand what an overproduction crisis is? When you reach a threshold of consumer you either invade markets (which requires imperialism, which requires an active MIC with constant streams of money pumped in), increase the consumers, create artificial scarcity or go trough a bubble crash.
Capitalism always seeks the most stable and efficient configuration.
Democracy, docility, migration and surveillance. All these things keep the ammount of labour increasing, cheapening and the consumers in a constant increasing state while making speculation on production reliable, this is naturally what represents a decrease on the agencies of the people involved and their autonomy because they become threatening to the system, for which the system erodes the middle class and centralizes power
Anonymous Brazil No.211902456 [Report]
>>211902075
>After decades affirmative action hiring, billion dollar grifting industries propped up where obese black women gets paid 6 figures to teach anti-rape techniques to the workforce, entire departments that not just do not create any value at all but actually hinder work? Even in my country there are diversity hires in Product Manager and similar position so they hit the quota. Some of them have no technical skills at all, literally don't understand anything about the work so they actually hinder people because the message still has to go through them

Anyone who already worked in a multinational company knows how true this is
Anonymous Italy No.211902467 [Report]
>>211901737
This is obviously true but arguing with a Milei's balls gargler is a waste of time
Anonymous Argentina No.211902542 [Report]
>>211902075
These quirks are good to prevent unionization and nationalization of enterprrises.
Capitalism is employed and co-employs certain international elements (ehem, namely, Jews)to facilitate its intrusion in the domestic economy of enemy nations, then erode their nationhood in order to facilitate the secularization of institutional power amd forbid cooperation, at the same time it employs cheap labour from the third world.

It is very logical that capitalism facilitates sterile social types like trannies, or libs, to thrive, using its capacity to store and amplify them to reach larger segments of the populqtion and spread their mental diseases
There is a deliberate intention to integrate markets in a way no nation is self sufficient, for this institutions like the FMI employ diplomacy, the EU, advocacy, lobbies, propaganda, NGOs, migration, law firms, advertisement companies.(migration largely erodes the working class by locking housing market costs into a speculative rush, facilitates its acquisition by large hedge funds and complicates its retention by small owners, which in turn facilitates the migratory streams which constantly inrease housing costs, consumption and pillage the state by leeching welfare and recirculating it into the markets)
Anonymous Argentina No.211902599 [Report] >>211902982
>bro capitalism just like... completely changed coincidentally at the time that communists in Germany and France started openly agitating students and trade unions to denounce racism and bring ten trillion niggers into Europe but that was completely unrelated, capitalism just became pro-niggers because uhhh overproduction or something
>the solution is to give power to the communists who openly support open borders and say that all white people are racist, they will create a trad society

Meanwhile, in reality
>The May 68 movement also contributed to the growth of feminist, environmentalist, and LGBTQ activism, and inspired radical thought in philosophy, media, and academia, influencing figures like Michel Foucault and Jean Baudrillard.
>Mitterrand abolished the death penalty as soon as he took office (via the Badinter Act), as well as the "anti-casseurs Act" which instituted collective responsibility for acts of violence during demonstrations. He also dissolved the Cour de sûreté, a special high court, and enacted a massive regularization of illegal immigrants. Tighter regulations on the powers of police to stop, search and arrest were introduced
>Foucault was also active in anti-racist campaigns; in November 1971, he was a leading figure in protests following the perceived racist killing of Arab migrant Djellali Ben Ali.[citation needed] In this he worked alongside his old rival Sartre, the journalist Claude Mauriac, and one of his literary heroes, Jean Genet. This campaign was formalised as the Committee for the Defence of the Rights of Immigrants, but there was tension at their meetings as Foucault opposed the anti-Israeli sentiment of many Arab workers and Maoist activists.[128] At a December 1972 protest against the police killing of Algerian worker Mohammad Diab, both Foucault and Genet were arrested, resulting in widespread publicity.[129]
Anonymous Argentina No.211902670 [Report]
The level of mental gymnastics required to say that communism is trad and pro white people are outright schizophrenic.
Anonymous Argentina No.211902982 [Report]
>>211902599
>bro capitalism just like... completely changed
No. It was always like this.
It was also caoitalism that facilitated for females to enter the workforce which began a orocess of liberalization of social structures by breaking previously consoldiated economic dynamics within the familiar core.
Im also clearly not saying we should advocate or empower communism lmfao.
This is a false dichotomy, if anything how trump was unable to close the border and push chicanos away because the oligarchy and lobbysts would leak over losing their cheap workforce.should reveal a clear pattern

Capitalism and nationalism are not compatible.
At most you can situationaly employ the later under heavy strain to enable competition and developement
Reminder that the Trotskist jews in america like irving kristol rapidly shapeshifted into Neoconservatives the moment israel was threatened by egypt and syria, and that the communist jews in russia rapidly shifted into oligarchs once the soviet.union reached its threshold

Both are systems that prioritize ideals and productive forces. Neither are necessarily or explicitly tied to race or nationhood, which is preserved the best with a welfare policy which is not necessarily the most efficient productive model. They can at best employ fifth collumns like jews to erode closed systems and access its resources (labour and natural ones)