Were you born if your cunt as a male and later in life you wanted to be a girl?

>>211909521 (OP)
What'a with the uptick in groomer posting?

>>211909521 (OP)
no
also thats retarded thats like wanting to become a train

>>211909521 (OP)
why do we have so many trans threads now on /int/?? whats happening here lately lol
also yes im taking hrt in my country etc etc

>>211909888
There is no escape from this shit, tall&thin. Even my IRL friend trooned-out after our friendship fell apart.

So, what about that fat redestribution I asked earlier?

>>211909888
Why do you want to be a girl? I mean what are the differences with your current status
I'm not a chud, just want to know why someone would go that way

>>211910037
i replied to u and the thread got deleted loool

its not magic. but it works. its more efficient if you start hrt early, have good genetics/lucky, eat enough food, have good levels/hrt dosage, etc
the recommended thing is to try to lose weight BEFORE starting hrt or on the beggining, and start eating more and gaining weight after some months/1 year of hrt. then you keep doing this weight cycle thing. lose weight to lose male fat spots and gain weight to try to gain female fat spots

>>211910158
its not "wanting to" its like, gender dysphoria, my weird brain not accepting my male primary and secondary sexual characteristics as normal. the most accept theory rn is hormonal imbalance in the uterus, and there are many causes that can make that imbalance happen, and in my/my mom personal case i/we checklist many of them lol

>>211910158
he's a failed male who spent too much time online and fell for the grooming

>>211910318
>too much time online and fell for the grooming
lol i never got groomed on the internet. if you want to call grooming you can say my irl high school friends used to joke i looked like a girl and i would be a perfect gf if i were a girl lol

>>211910175
These lust delusions are unsustainable. Actual transgenders do not exist in humanity. You're just degrading yourself.
>>211910318
There is no such thing as "failed" male, sex is not a checkbox of successes in a race.

>>211909521 (OP)
yes I want to be a girl stop bullying me.

>>211910379
>men can't be failures
dumb vatnik

>>211910175
It seems strange to me that people are willing to take a wearying HRT course that will fuck up your chemical balance, and not do this weight cycle to look accordingly. Saint-Petersburg has a giant tranny community, and most of them look like all they did is HRT course and then straigt up female wardrobe.

>>211910308
So you don't accept certain parts of yourself, but how can you be sure that getting the snip and shit will solve the problem? That problem could just move to other parts of yourself
I mean if half of trans end up kts, maybe it's deeper issues than a pair of balls and some hair
Again not trying to diminish your suffering or anything

>>211909521 (OP)
No I was born a girl and all trannies should kill themselves

>>211910491
Being a male is not a set of explicitly specific conditions to satisfy, the construction "failed male" quite literally implies an opposition to either:
1)A successful male or normal male, but being a male never was limited to operation in social structures as you assume, and so-called biological imperative is an illusion, while these trannies are simply insane.
I n s a n e, you get that?
2)Or a state of being a male, in which case the construction works.
Barely, because in other respects, trannies are actually explicitly and purely male, they have hypertrophied male aspects. Their libido subsumes their soul, until they warp themselves into what they desire.

>>211910675
>Their libido subsumes their soul, until they warp themselves into what they desire.
my libido have always been low
i never had the habit of jerking off
im a virgin
i rejected sex many times during my life with both girls (for obvious reason) and guys (bc i was scared and not really feeling it)

you guys see some fetishists from reddit posting their uwu girldick polycule stories and think everybody is like that lol

>>211910675
>Actual transgenders do not exist in humanity.
It's more of a social phenomenon than a physical one.

>Their libido subsumes their soul, until they warp themselves into what they desire.
When gays come to equasion, your argument falls flat.

And I'm a straight guy, and my libido subsumed my soul a long time ago. Changed nothing in a matter of my sexuality. That's strike two.

>>211910886
>my libido have always been low
>i never had the habit of jerking off
Libido is a subcomponent of an overarching sexual system. Your example is even worse, it's more abstract.
>a virgin
Irrelevant.
>i rejected sex many times during my life with both girls (for obvious reason) and guys (bc i was scared and not really feeling it)
Also irrelevant.
The point remains unchallenged, there are all sorts of other components in place.

Oh my autogynephilia!

>>211910976
>It's more of a social phenomenon than a physical one.
Then it's not a phenomenon at all, it's a dressing. Trans-gender means transition between sex.
A human being adhering to conventional biology can't transition between sex, because sex is a function, and transitory states between them don't exist without unnatural means.
Only things that can be actual transgenders are eldritch abominations.
>When gays come to equasion, your argument falls flat.
It does not. You simply assume primitivity and singularity of outcomes.
Gays are either my aforementioned example, broken toys, or artificial constructions.
Deviations from human spiritual baseline don't happen just because.
>And I'm a straight guy, and my libido subsumed my soul a long time ago. Changed nothing in a matter of my sexuality. That's strike two.
High libido isn't and doesn't guarantee subsumation, Mr. Straight Guy or whatever you are in particular. You don't quite understand what subsumation is at those levels when it does happen, or what subsumation looks like at all, unless you're lying for the sake of it.
You crossdresser or something?

Either way, that was a rhetorical example to quickly reference how such thing happen, not a statement of singular conclusions.

>>211910548
there are unfortunately a part of trans people who bought that stupid thinking of "you dont owe anyone feminility/masculinity (in case of ftm)" "you're valid even tho you don't shave your beard or put any effort on your transition" "you dont need to transition to be trans (lol)" etc etc. so you get these people
>>211910585
>half of trannies kill themselves
that 41% data was from a "do you, a tranny, has ever thought about "omg i want to kill myself" in your life, in the present or in the past where you had a bad unhappy life with no access to hormones?" question. i would answer yes to that lol and i never even tried to commit suicided. ofc it got memed as trannies commit suicide all the time. but whatever
im happier this time ive been taking hormones than any other time i was trying to repress and cope with religion anti-depressants and etc. all the trans ppl i know says the same. ofc i still have problems. i think i will need a rhinoplasty and some other procedures to stealth pass. i will still have to deal with dating issues since im trans. i will need to gather money for srs, etc etc
>>211910989
i'm really, honestly, not understading your point. being trans is letting your libido (agp?) dominate your life. i said i dont think this happens/happened to me and stated why. you said is irrelevant? i dont get your point sorry

>>211911308
I can't even date as a straight 190cm white man, can't imagine as a tranny
I wish you the best anon(ette)

>>211911308
>i'm really, honestly, not understading your point. being trans is letting your libido (agp?) dominate your life. i said i dont think this happens/happened to me and stated why. you said is irrelevant? i dont get your point sorry
My original point is simple. "Trans" phenomenon as you know it is a psycho-spiritual destabilization and deviation from normalcy. Nothing more. It's a combination of malfunctions, an error in rationale of self-assesment that may result in fall to pleasure and a may have a particularly bizarre sort of internal pressure that strives to make one take questionable choices.

Playing with hormones will likely have consequences, all for a short life-time of an illusion of illusory female beauty that is unlikely to last to boot.
As with all trannies, you may debase yourself to any extent, it's your noose to hang it, — but do at least try to consider that giving ignorant and pliable humans in emotionally inbalanced states an advice and motivations to deviate to sate an impetus is an evil act.
That is all.

>>211911517
The way I see it from outside:

HRT is basically the same thing for gender dysphoria that painkillers are for patients with chronic pain (e.g. cancer). The point is that it's meant to if not to remove pain, but to relieve parts of it.
It's already there, whatever you may call it, malfunction, deviancy, abnormality. The options are to do nothing and to suffer, or risk it at the chance of a positive change. Are you suggesting that the former is the only acceptable way?

>>211909521 (OP)
yep
>>211909546
4chins has been a conservative website for like decades wdym

>>211911947
Indeed. Suppose I was controlling your mind to submit to some idea. Do you submit bit by bit, or do you withstand the pain?
Sometimes one can only wait, because what you assume as positive change isn't positive at all, but a concession.

I was born as a girl and aged into a man

>>211912024
Sup mwahnon

>>211912354
Depends on the idea. Depends on the cons and negs of accepting. Depends on the cons and negs of declining.

>>211912471
Convenient. And that is how you lose. Too many worthless considerations for unimportant matters.
But you don't need to know that that supposition even exists.
Pain is what they're allowed to know, and pain is what they submit to, predictably and as intended. And as they're unwilling to battle in their mind for their actual selves, they lose as well.

>>211912581
Dammit, Morpheus. Not everyone believes what you believe.

>>211912758
Such a funny thing to say, considering what Wachowskis have turned into.

>>211909521 (OP)
Almost had a stroke trying to read this.

>>211909546
Psy-ops shall continue until morale improves

>>211912832
I'm not sure at this point if that's a farce, or a genuine thing. And if it's a latter, then
>the most accept theory rn is hormonal imbalance in the uterus
kinda seems kinda probable.

>>211912882
Reading the Russian's posts feels like a stroke

>>211911494
>I can't even date as a straight 190cm white man
This is a joke right? ...