Thread 211931978 - /int/ [Archived: 842 hours ago]

Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 5:42:17 PM No.211931978
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>Hehe Europeans are so poor unlike us RICH Americans
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 5:48:52 PM No.211932193
>>211931978 (OP)
I have 0 xd
Anonymous Italy
6/20/2025, 5:51:24 PM No.211932268
>iceland
that doesnt seem right
i doubt that entire glorified snownigga village could be worth 400k dollars even
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 5:52:45 PM No.211932307
This shit is based on shit like real estate, not actual spendable wealth.
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 5:53:27 PM No.211932330
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>This shit is based on shit like real estate, not actual spendable wealth.
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Anonymous Indonesia
6/20/2025, 5:56:33 PM No.211932436
>>211931978 (OP)
uhuh
now let's see the tax rates
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/20/2025, 5:59:15 PM No.211932521
americans earn money had over fist and spend it just as fast
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Anonymous Iceland
6/20/2025, 6:02:12 PM No.211932609
>>211931978 (OP)
yea idk what the fuck this bullshit stat is but the average icelander is much poorer then the average american, even if on paper we make more money everything is twice as expensive so it means nothing
aint no way the average person has over 400k worth in usd lol
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Anonymous France
6/20/2025, 6:13:58 PM No.211932983
>>211932609
I know a dude who moved to iceland and he told me there is absolutely no suffering on this island, stop gatekeeping
Anonymous Thailand
6/20/2025, 6:17:20 PM No.211933097
>>211931978 (OP)
In all countries people spaff all the money they have on random shit no matter how much they earn with the only assets of note being house and pension.

Houses are practically free in the USA vs UK and the American state pension is much more generous than the British one so less need to save for one.

Only speaking for the UK where I'm from but I'd be amazed if that (in particular the housing bit) didn't explain it.
Anonymous Mexico
6/20/2025, 6:19:14 PM No.211933160
Screenshot 2025-06-20 at 10-18-26 List of countries by wealth per adult - Wikipedia
???
Yes, US is in the top 5 for mean wealth per adult index
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 6:20:13 PM No.211933191
>>211932609
>Muh anecdotes trump stats
Low IQ moment
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 6:20:55 PM No.211933217
>>211931978 (OP)
why would you try to post this as an own when your countrt isn't even on the list?
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 6:21:15 PM No.211933230
>>211933160
>mean
>The millionaires are rich, that means I'm rich too :)
Anonymous Germany
6/20/2025, 6:22:05 PM No.211933259
>>211933160
Billionaires o algo
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 6:22:26 PM No.211933268
another incel statistics thread, just what the board needed
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 6:22:56 PM No.211933290
>>211933268
>another incel
But enough about yourself
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Anonymous Ireland
6/20/2025, 6:24:49 PM No.211933344
>>211932436
Richer countries have higher tax rates. Food for thought!
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 6:24:57 PM No.211933348
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>>211931978 (OP)
ok, now show us the BBC per capita.
Anonymous Mexico
6/20/2025, 6:25:45 PM No.211933380
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>>211933259
Every other index reflects this nigger
The only way you can make the US look bad (which is what I assume OP is doing) is that if you take wealth inequality into account, which unless you are a retarded pozzbrained commie that doesnt know that barriers and limits of the sort are cancerous, you will disregard.
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 6:26:12 PM No.211933401
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>>211933290
its 18:25 on a friday in june and you are posting wikipedia screencap statistics
Anonymous Brazil
6/20/2025, 6:28:43 PM No.211933474
>>211932330
Yes. Do median income
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 6:40:28 PM No.211933872
>>211933474
You know the point of high income is to generate wealth, yes?
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Anonymous France
6/20/2025, 6:54:42 PM No.211934375
>>211931978 (OP)
there are no excuses for americans not being at the top of this list
the reality is just that they enjoy being poor
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:01:41 PM No.211934617
>>211931978 (OP)
Nazis said Icelanders were a bunch of S0YBOYS who played tennis all day lmao
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:10:01 PM No.211934938
>>211931978 (OP)
Wealth is money that you don't spend.

We enjoy our wealth with excess consumption.
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:11:01 PM No.211934976
>>211931978 (OP)
It's okay we're all just temporarily embarrassed rich people.
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:14:11 PM No.211935112
>>211931978 (OP)
Median age is a massive factor in this.

That's why Spain is so high.
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:14:46 PM No.211935137
>>211933872
No its to order doordash twice a day and run up bar tabs.
Anonymous Netherlands
6/20/2025, 7:14:50 PM No.211935142
>>211931978 (OP)
>The pensioners are RICH, this is good for me ofcourse
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:18:19 PM No.211935275
>>211931978 (OP)
I'm afraid that any metric that shows Spain as richer than Sweden is flawed.
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:22:02 PM No.211935424
>>211931978 (OP)
We are rich, we just also happen to consume a lot.
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 7:22:50 PM No.211935462
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>>211932268
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:24:27 PM No.211935523
Show these stats for wage. Wealth means little to people below the age of 40.
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 7:25:46 PM No.211935585
>>211935462
>net salary
>€4000

Fucking rich ass volcano living cunts.
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:26:58 PM No.211935635
>>211935585
Does net salary exclude pension contributions?
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 7:28:13 PM No.211935689
>>211935635
Net salary is what you get on your account after everything has been stole...I mean taxed. That includes pension.
Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 7:31:46 PM No.211935831
>>211935635
pension contributions ("social security") is usually paid by the employers after you total salary
total tax margin is net / total + ss + other
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 7:33:43 PM No.211935889
>>211935831
i mean net / gross + ss + other (country dependent)
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:37:34 PM No.211936033
>>211935831
In USA, we have both social security, which is through the government, and 401k, a pre-tax retirement investment account, both of which are taken out before it reaches your account.

Social security is equally paid by employer and employee at 7.5% salary (though it really doesn't matter since this is priced into market price of salary, its effectively a 15% income tax and everyone actually makes more money than they think), 401k is typically 4% paid by employer, then however much the employee wants to contribute, the employee can choose a percentage. I put in 9%.
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 7:42:54 PM No.211936225
>>211936033
Nothing like that here. It all happens before you ever see the money. So what you get paid is what you keep.
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 7:53:49 PM No.211936638
>chuds when crime statistics about browns are posted
>"this literally proves that other races are biologically prone to crime and if you try to explain this with socio-economic factors you're coping"

>chuds when literally every statistic shows that social democratic European societies are the most prosperous in the entire history of humanity
>"umm it's because of pensioners also it will collapse into islamic anarchy in two weeks trust me bro"
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 8:31:33 PM No.211938034
>>211936638
Oh geez, I don't know how to tell you this but... Niggers will never become a net profit.
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 8:39:00 PM No.211938342
>>211938034
its impossible for everyone to be net profit when modern economy is based around outsourced work for low wages
not talking about blacks in usa but in general when people post these graphs about which groups being net contributers. etc. guess what you are not going to be a net tax contributor when you work for a low salary
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 8:42:03 PM No.211938464
>>211938342
Somalis in Sweden have 80% unemployment. The issue is not low wages in Sweden, a shelf stocker makes 17EUR per hour here with +100% bonus on weekends.
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Anonymous Italy
6/20/2025, 8:44:26 PM No.211938552
>>211931978 (OP)
Is it because Amerimutt are in a lot of debt or is their country all propaganda like China?
Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 8:45:19 PM No.211938588
>>211938464
yeah well maybe its not a problem in sweden but the general rule is the more money you make the more you contribute in taxes and it is impossible for the bottom 10-20-25-50% depending on the country to be net contributors because they dont make enough money. unemployment is a different issue altogether but if you idk bartend in vienna as an eastern european you are probably not going to be a net contributor but someone has to do these jobs and there are a lot of these
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Anonymous France
6/20/2025, 8:46:04 PM No.211938612
>>211931978 (OP)
Americans identify with their ultra rich megacorps. You'll witness americans with 2 jobs working in a trailer talk non-stop about how rich they are compared to others because their state's GDP is higher than a lot of nations, as if all that fortune didn't belong to a few megacorps. I genuinely mean it when I say that nearly all of them are insane and should therefore be avoided.
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 8:48:33 PM No.211938714
>>211938588
So even in high salary societies they will never be a net gain. They are just unemployable.
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 8:49:22 PM No.211938750
>>211938588
being a net provider in tax does not mean that you pay more tax than cheques you get from the government
it means you provide more income for the government (overall) than what you are provided by the government in services. everyone uses roads for example which need to be upkept, public transport, water infrastructure etc. the bottom percentage of the population contribute more to the amortization of infrastructure than they do towards funding the government. even if you are swedish if you work a low income job you probably generate more costs to the government than what you help. but there is no mitigation around this, you cant fund the government through taxes if your income is low. unemployment, etc. those are different matter sure
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 8:50:04 PM No.211938776
>>211931978 (OP)
Yeah many cities here are ghettos, this isn't news to us
Anonymous Germany
6/20/2025, 8:51:18 PM No.211938810
>>211933380
Do you know what "median" means paco?
Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 8:54:02 PM No.211938888
>>211938714
in high salary societies the gap is even larger. and because labour costs are higher and there is more serious bureaucracy, etc.. then it is harder to be a net contributor. in the usa the top 10% pays 76% of the income taxes and the top 25% pays 89%
if you are on median income in the usa you get more in services, etc. overall than what you pay.
europe is different of course because the middle class is taxed on similar rates as the upper classes in the usa. but still if you are a low income worker in a factory or something you are probably not a net positive contributor even here
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 8:58:21 PM No.211939027
>>211938888
It's extremely easy to be a net contributor as an immigrated zoomali because you have 0 cost of upbringing. If you pay even 1 EUR in taxes you are a net gain. And even with this advantage zoomalis are completely useless.

It doesn't matter that higher incomes pay a larger proportion of total taxes. Being a "net contributor" is not relative, it is binary.
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 9:02:24 PM No.211939161
>>211939027
i mean if you just calculate this by looking at the cash inflows from a person to the government you are right. but even then for example if you get state funded education technically you are going to be a net loss for the time being
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/20/2025, 9:46:12 PM No.211940600
>>211933160
>noticeably lower ranking on median than on average
Ok, there are a bunch of gigarich Jews while the median mutt is as wealthy as the median Spaniard.
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 9:50:41 PM No.211940739
this whole board is just eurocope
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 10:01:31 PM No.211941062
>>211940739
>Objective reality is eurocope
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 10:32:02 PM No.211942089
>>211941062
yeah man, spainiards are just slightly less rich than americans; everyone knows that. truly the most accurate way to measure wealth was used
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Anonymous Malta
6/20/2025, 10:36:34 PM No.211942236
>>211931978 (OP)
Americans live on credit and debt, but have high incomes and live more comfy lifestyles.
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 10:37:44 PM No.211942274
>>211942089
Yeah net worth is the best measure of net worth. Over 50% of Americans in the 20-30 bracket have negative net worth.
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 10:44:54 PM No.211942489
>>211942274
thats completely normal
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/20/2025, 10:56:43 PM No.211942831
>>211942489
No other country is like that.
We are not talking about one hundred million entrepreneurs being technically in debt because they structured their assets this way to minimise taxes. Those people with negative net worth are living on credit above their means in their daily life despite living in burgerpunk dystopia.
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 10:59:15 PM No.211942908
>>211942831
europeans are always complaining about lack of jobs and lower wages and higher taxes and talk about how americans make so much more but now suddenly europeans say they're richer than americans haha
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/20/2025, 11:01:52 PM No.211942984
>>211942908
The two are not incompatible. Americans make more money but it's all squandered on frivolities bought on credit and gigantic rents so they don't build wealth and half of them are screwed into debt slavery the microsecond an unusual expense is needed.
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 11:03:25 PM No.211943018
>>211942984
so im supposed to pretend europeans are richer because boomers own houses in europe and because some americans are in debt in their 20s?
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 11:06:20 PM No.211943093
>>211942831
usa economy is extremely strong and large and has enough solvency and trust in it that they can hand out credit cards like candy
theres is absolutely nothing wrong about loans, if you compared the uk or like denmark or something to hungary you guys would be 1000 times more indebted than us.
usa works because there is a lot of trust in the economy and its a giant market. the same way these things dont work in here. there were attempts in the 90s and it was absolutely catastrophic
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/20/2025, 11:07:54 PM No.211943133
>>211943018
Yes, that's what wealth and net worth is. Btw even in the US wealth is also in real estate and financial derivatives.
Technically Americans could easily become richer if they stopped being addicted to living above their means but it's a cultural problem that isn't going away any time soon, and crashing the US trade deficits like the current administration is doing is not going to improve things.
Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 11:10:58 PM No.211943217
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>>211942831
>>211943093
kook at this picture. it is the sum of housing loans in a country compared to the gdp, the income and home loans per capita.
top of the list are sweden, netherlands, denmark, luxembourg. bottom of the list is greece, bulgaria, larvia, hungary, romania. which end of the spectrum is more developed?
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 11:30:56 PM No.211943738
>>211943018
Yes, you are indeed poorer than Europeans. Ameripoor lol :)
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 11:32:20 PM No.211943791
>>211931978 (OP)
You also have to take into account there are probably 120 million people here of a third world race. Some of them here since the founding of the nation and still too retarded to speak proper English. Some of them just hopped a border 30 years ago and still cannot speak English at all.

So if you took an average European person and raised them here you would be much better off than those metrics suggest. I am two years into my first job out of college, after required payments like taxes, rent, utilities, food, and putting $25k into a few different retirement accounts, I have $50k per year I can spend on whatever I want. I am in a medium cost of living area in the Midwest too so houses are $180k-300k for a normal one
>>211932521
This is true, so many consumerist people that will be living “paycheck to paycheck” making $100k+ per year because they HAVE to get every Netflix, Hulu, Disney, etc subscription. They HAVE to get ubereats every other day. They HAVE to get a new car because their old one is 5 years old. They HAVE to take a few vacations or cruises abroad every year, etc. If people didn’t try to live above their means so much here then the problems would be fixed overnight
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 11:36:40 PM No.211943955
>Our averages don't count! Only the top %'s count!
Lol not this retardation again. Yes your billionaires are very rich and your kids make burgers for 7USD per hour.
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 11:39:36 PM No.211944039
>>211943955
our burger flippers do not make 7 USD an hour lol.

$12 is typical fast food starting wage in low cost of living areas.
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Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 11:40:01 PM No.211944052
No one said anything about billionaires retarded ahmed. Half my friends work normal jobs out of college and will have houses before thirty. You will scrap shit off a kebab shops counter for 30 years before you can afford a house anywhere near the same. youll probably get blown up by a grenade attack before long anyways
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Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 11:41:38 PM No.211944105
>>211944039
Yes whatever, midwit nitpick. The point is that the you only caring about the top earners instead of the median person is retarded. If you save 50k per year you are in the top 0.1% of Americans. Who gives a shit about your anecdote?
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/20/2025, 11:43:16 PM No.211944151
>>211931978 (OP)
Wouldn't this be skewed by students at university? The more adults in tertiary education you have, the lower your median wealth.
Anonymous Sweden
6/20/2025, 11:43:52 PM No.211944173
>>211944052
Wow your anecdote about you and a handful of friends totally trumps the statistics collected about net worth from 250 million Americans.

Please tell me you aren't an engineer while being this daft.
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Anonymous Hungary
6/20/2025, 11:44:59 PM No.211944206
>>211944105
no hes right. why would you compare yourself to a median? for what reason? especially in a country like the usa where the ranges are a lot more wider than in europe. compare yourself to your surroundings, the opportunities you have, etc. if you were born in a large city and went to a good school or something there is no reason to compare yourself to someone who grew up in a really poor area. never understood this statistics obsession, for what reason?
Anonymous United States
6/20/2025, 11:52:33 PM No.211944426
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>>211944173
>dude isn’t it crazy how this country with over 100 million people from third world races and cultures that can’t even make a functioning society in their own homelands and can’t even learn the language of the country has a median person with no wealth wow this is crazy guys!!!
Pretty obvious how it doesn’t matter for anyone living here with a normal brain. If you think you are on the level of negroes it explains a lot of your posts