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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/21/2025, 10:54:42 PM No.211979182
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Why are there so many good Asian musicians playing various music instruments, but I have never heard of any composers of them?
Am I wrong, can you enlighten me?
Btw, I really like some of Japanese artists, which produce not classical music, but some electro mix with orchestra. Still sounds quite good, but they're not famous at all
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Anonymous Norway
6/21/2025, 11:07:08 PM No.211979588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PS5QMsGaRw
they lack soul
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/21/2025, 11:11:52 PM No.211979774
>>211979588
Are there any notable composers from Norway I don't know of, aside Grieg?
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/21/2025, 11:55:45 PM No.211981389
The thread is dead.
Anonymous Germany
6/22/2025, 12:01:30 AM No.211981592
>>211979182 (OP)
Classical music is dead unless it’s for a movie or videogame to be fair
Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:04:57 AM No.211981698
I mean there are probably many but only those who are making experimental ones can get some attention
Are there any widly known composer of classical music who is still alive tho?
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 12:05:59 AM No.211981730
Asians can only copy, they can't create
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Anonymous Portugal
6/22/2025, 12:08:19 AM No.211981794
>>211979182 (OP)
The culture of the East is more of a 'learn from and repeat after a master' instead of 'develop on the teachings of a master'. They are pretty great at repeating what they're told to do, but to actually innovate... there are few who can.
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Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:08:21 AM No.211981795
>>211981730
Japan was more creative than most western nations in the past 30-40 years THOUGH
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:14:14 AM No.211981985
>>211981698
>Are there any widly known composer of classical music who is still alive tho?
Probably none, if we don't count some neo-classic.
Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:15:14 AM No.211982019
>>211981794
They still produce some great music. At leas Japanese ones, from what I'm listening to.
Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:15:22 AM No.211982025
it's pretty fucking sneaky bro
it's a western thing and virtually dead as a culture to produce new shit
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:16:38 AM No.211982064
>>211982025
I like that your artists still include some classical instruments into modern electro music. Maybe you use them, because it sounds unusual or something. But it still gives a good sound.
Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:16:48 AM No.211982067
>>211979182 (OP)
Koji Kondo, Nobuo Uematsu, Yoko Shimamura, Masayoshi Soken, Yu-peng Chen
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Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:26:50 AM No.211982362
well, and there's also a factor that it's a typical shit that rich asians let their kids learn
that's actually sad
i hate seeing asians playing tennis for the same reason
Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:28:18 AM No.211982400
>>211982067
nigga lists videogame music composers lol
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Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:30:47 AM No.211982466
>>211982400
thank you for explaining for those who don't know them
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Anonymous Portugal
6/22/2025, 12:33:25 AM No.211982535
>>211979182 (OP)
there are many just search for composeres for annime/movies or other media .the japonese and koreans have really good ones
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Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:33:44 AM No.211982546
>>211982466
lmao!
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 12:34:44 AM No.211982569
>>211981795
Stfu weeb, no it wasnt
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Anonymous Egypt
6/22/2025, 12:35:36 AM No.211982587
>>211982569
10.
visajeet !ZoCaLKZvhkUnited States
6/22/2025, 12:35:51 AM No.211982593
>>211979182 (OP)
Yu Peng Chen
Anonymous Mexico
6/22/2025, 12:36:20 AM No.211982604
>>211979182 (OP)
they arent finance for the CIA and the bankers guild like the 90% of gringoys musicians
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 12:38:03 AM No.211982656
ITT whites who've never picked up an instrument
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:38:54 AM No.211982673
>>211982535
Soundtracks is another genre. I also haven't seen anyone really good one aside Japanese ones in that sense.
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Anonymous Portugal
6/22/2025, 12:38:57 AM No.211982675
>>211982656
facts
me included
Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:39:45 AM No.211982698
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>>211981795
this
Anonymous Australia
6/22/2025, 12:39:47 AM No.211982700
How many modern classical composers do you know?
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Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:40:03 AM No.211982707
>>211982569
well, that's just your opinon, man.

you know, ''asian can't create, only copy'' is a cliche and i still see it a lot and i'm honestly like IS IT STILL NOT ENOUGH???
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:40:15 AM No.211982718
>>211982673
I mean among Asians.
>>211982604
To be fair I haven't heard about famous gringos classic either. Even British aren't good at this.
Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:42:15 AM No.211982759
>>211982700
Why do most of the anons always look at the "modern"? Asians started to pick up this music much early on. Are there any significant composers of 20th century among them?
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Anonymous Portugal
6/22/2025, 12:46:16 AM No.211982853
>>211982673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tKt5hrpZ4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DxjFs_dsR8
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Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:47:26 AM No.211982881
>>211982759
>Are there any significant composers of 20th century among them?
yes, there are many, you are just not aware
it's like asking, are there any russian composers? you might answer, there is prokofiev and shostakovich. but, most people do not know them either, and their music is mid.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:48:23 AM No.211982906
>>211979774
Grieg was Irish btw
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Anonymous Portugal
6/22/2025, 12:48:38 AM No.211982911
>>211982881
prokofiev music is not mid, fag
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:49:28 AM No.211982944
>>211982400
what's wrong with that
Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:52:02 AM No.211983024
>>211982881
>but, most people do not know them either, and their music is mid.
Bullshit. Also there is Rachmaninoff and Stravinsky (if we don't count many others). Russian music turned the flow of the overall music.
>yes, there are many, you are just not aware
Provede an example. Enlighten me. I didn't create this thread to cause a butthurt among overseas Asians. I created the thread in wish to learn more.
>>211982906
Didn't know that... Just looked at the wiki, it says his grandpa was Scottish.
>>211982853
The first one is kinda generic. But still good overall.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:52:22 AM No.211983032
>>211982881
>Dance of Knights, one of the most recognizable compositions of all time
>mid
cretin
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Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:53:08 AM No.211983057
>>211982911
well I can't listen to any of his pieces and enjoy them. I can repeatedly listen to compositions by uematsu and soken and enjoy them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfIXHgAq6Kw
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:54:03 AM No.211983073
>>211983024
rach fucking sucks
Strawiński was half-Polish and i think he was crypto-jewish too (he's the only russian-language composer worth a damn)
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:54:04 AM No.211983075
>>211983024
by Irish I obviously meant Scottish
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 12:54:43 AM No.211983092
>>211982707
Wtf do you care, you're not Asian you're just a weeb
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Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:54:57 AM No.211983102
>>211983024
jpop is one of the most influential music genres of the late 20th century. go look up its composers.
Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:55:06 AM No.211983107
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>>211983032
it is the very definition of mid.
boom bah boom boom

check out what high-brow music sounds like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6hKinnZKM
>ruschinks could never
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:55:13 AM No.211983110
>>211983073
>he's the only russian-language composer worth a damn
You serious? What about Czajkowski? He's the goat
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:56:13 AM No.211983142
>>211983057
>t. nigga who listens to only neo-classical music
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 12:56:28 AM No.211983150
>>211982400
Name 3 living noteworthy classical composers from the west that don't do video game/movie music, retard
Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:56:37 AM No.211983157
>>211983107
romantic era composers are just monkeys trying to ape the simplistic perfection of baroque and classical era music. all russian composers fall in the latter category. it turns out only italians and germans know how to do music.
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 12:56:51 AM No.211983172
>>211983092
why do you care? you know nothing about classical music
Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:57:26 AM No.211983188
>>211983107
An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity
Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 12:58:22 AM No.211983214
>>211983157
the only exceptions are chopin, franz list and verdi, and some other italian opera composers. that's it. french composers are actually shit.
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 12:58:33 AM No.211983219
>>211983157
Sounds like you just hate us for no reason.
Also the early 20th century musicians including Shostakovich and Stravinsky were creating modern, abiding the past norms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwqPJZe8ms
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 12:59:26 AM No.211983247
>>211983110
shut the fuck up noob, you know nothing about classical music
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Anonymous Japan
6/22/2025, 12:59:58 AM No.211983262
Aren't Stravinsky and Shostakovich the last ''greats''? Even Rachmaninoff died in the 40s
>>211983092
I'm Jap
Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 1:00:30 AM No.211983277
>>211983219
>were creating modern, abiding the past norms
lol the same thing can be said about the philistine schopenhauer
I've listened to stravinsky, a bunch of unbearable russoid ballet followed by even worse experimental american shit. should have stayed during the revolution and got killed.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:01:22 AM No.211983301
>>211983214
Debussy (not the overrated clair de lune tho, blargh, but La Mer, Reverie, the list goes on) and Saint Saens are pretty good tho

Liszt is overrated, he was a music teacher first and foremost and it shows in his pieces which are more like physical exercises
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Anonymous Canada
6/22/2025, 1:01:52 AM No.211983321
>>211983219
I will give you some credit that whoever composed soviet songs like hymn of the ussr, polyushka polye, song of the northern fleet etc. has some skill.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:02:07 AM No.211983333
>>211983107
Bach bores me. I may hate Russia but their composers are the best. Czajkowski's Hymn of the Cherubim speaks directly to my sovl, Bach feels like listening to a mathematic equation compared to that.
>>211983157
Absolutely fucking horrible take as expected from a leaf
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 1:03:17 AM No.211983360
>>211983321
>>211983277
Nigga... You're pure cringe.
Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:03:29 AM No.211983366
>>211983277
nah, stravinsky is OK man. the only good "russian" composer
Alice Coltrane makes the trippiest part of the Firebird sound so heavy at the beginning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfes05QtaQ

but desu i only know firebird & rite of spring
firebird is great, rite of spring is OK.
not very "great" of a composer if he only has 1 great composition
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:03:46 AM No.211983375
>>211983247
you shut the fuck up nerd
I don't need to know about it, I can feel it
Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:05:07 AM No.211983416
>>211983301
>debussy
zestiest surname of all time
Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:05:38 AM No.211983432
>>211983333
you're an easily impressionable pseudo-intellectual and that's why the shallow kitschy russian culture appeals to you
it's very low-brow stuff. at best mid

i used to like it when i was young, especially rimski-korsakov's scheherazade. but when you grow up, you grow out of being impressed by tricks, sleights of hand & showiness (and ruskie bydło seemingly never grows up)
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 1:05:59 AM No.211983436
>>211983333
>Bach bores me.
No way... I kinda get it, but still has many 'lyrical' good pieces like Invention 9 and Invention 13 for example.
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 1:07:27 AM No.211983486
>>211983366
>but desu i only know firebird & rite of spring
Seems like you haven't listened to other Russian composers then. heh
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:07:50 AM No.211983500
>>211983486
im talking of stravinsky's pieces
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 1:08:40 AM No.211983526
>>211983500
What other pieces of other composers have you listened to since you don't like them so much?
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:09:22 AM No.211983549
>>211983432
I am not intellectual at all you pompous nerd
how can you not enjoy the Sugarplum Fairy, it's pure mischievous joy
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:10:05 AM No.211983568
>>211979182 (OP)
Their parents rape all the soul of music out of them by making them practice for hour after hour everyday so they can brag to their relatives that Diane Chang is the first oboist in the middle school orchestra. I dated the pianist from my highschool's jazz band (1st gen Korean) and she wasn't even able to jam with me and one time she cried because she said if her mom or dad heard her playing anything besides jazz and classical they would scream at her and hit her knuckles with a ruler as punishment.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:10:24 AM No.211983576
>>211983436
never heard those and I don't intend to
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:11:59 AM No.211983620
>>211983568
what does "jamming" here mean?
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/22/2025, 1:14:08 AM No.211983674
>>211983576
Negga...
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Anonymous Egypt
6/22/2025, 1:15:02 AM No.211983693
>>211983674
Pool.
Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:16:31 AM No.211983734
>>211983526
romantishit isn't good music in general, and russian "classical" music is almost all romantishit. overly sentimental, melodramatic/tearjerking and brash (russian lit and cinema suffers from the same illness, so in general russian culture is of no interest to me, unless it's in the vein of "slum tourism" like the Brat movie, it's cool to watch russians suffer and live in squalor)
rachmaninoff is the worst offender

music from this period can be good tho.
there's a Polish neo-romantic composer who died prematurely in an avalanche in the Tatra Mountains, he was part of the Zakopane scene and featured virtuoso violin work in his music that was inspired by Góral music. that I like very, very much (high quality violin compositions)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOi7C5dXmk
you see, this isn't primitive music. russian culture, russian people are very primitive & naive, i've found. like any third worlders, like brazilians or indians, you're easily impressionable and you have the memory of a goldfish and everything is always "new" to you which is how your rulers manage the cattle herd (bydło) that you are with such ease despite being so brutal any civilized people would've long ago rebelled and established a civilized government and society
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:18:10 AM No.211983785
>>211983620
Fucking around and playing improvisational music together (aka the basis of jazz music).
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:19:59 AM No.211983828
>>211983734
>he doesn't like romanticism
Contrarian faggot lmao. As a neutral observer, you just sound like a ruzzian-hating pole. They have way better composers than you. Chopin is the only one I can think of for you guys
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:26:23 AM No.211983999
>>211983785
yeah i don't believe you.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:28:33 AM No.211984057
>>211983828
romantishit is babby's first "classical" music
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:29:27 AM No.211984089
>>211983999
Good to know, Ken.
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:30:05 AM No.211984109
I already linked a good Polish composer lol
here's another one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDJdh13gHrE
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:31:16 AM No.211984138
>>211984057
Actually that would be movie soundtracks
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:31:34 AM No.211984145
>>211984089
>i "jammed" with a jazz pianist
>she didn't know how to improvise
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:36:24 AM No.211984271
>>211984145
Jazz recitals in highschool = playing take 5 or The Entertainer from a songbook
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:39:27 AM No.211984338
>>211984271
Your high school had low standards
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Anonymous Poland
6/22/2025, 1:41:56 AM No.211984399
Polish modern classical:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FNPsnCZQj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSInnR9Q9_o
Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:42:39 AM No.211984415
>>211984338
No shit, it was a public high school in America. Didn't keep her from going to Georgetown
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:44:57 AM No.211984468
>>211984415
I went to a public high school and we were expected to improvise. But then again I went to a public high school in wealthy New England.
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Anonymous United States
6/22/2025, 1:46:38 AM No.211984508
>>211984468
Well be glad you didn't grow up in Idaho my friend.