Thread 212081331 - /int/ [Archived: 755 hours ago]

Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 9:57:38 PM No.212081331
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What is the best version?
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sage France
6/24/2025, 10:00:13 PM No.212081415
Nobody cares about Brazil.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 10:01:48 PM No.212081477
>>212081415
This is about a language used in many countries
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Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 10:47:39 PM No.212082930
bump
Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 10:55:11 PM No.212083164
>>212081331 (OP)
I'm obviously biased, but I much prefer proper written brazilian portuguese. Of couse, on day to day life the average brazilian doesn't even come remotely close to speaking proper brazilian portuguese.
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Anonymous Portugal
6/24/2025, 11:00:24 PM No.212083351
Anything that removes etymological cues is cringe.

>direção
>farmácia
Cringe
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Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 11:01:33 PM No.212083394
>>212083164
But what is your favorite spelling? The current one?
Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 11:11:43 PM No.212083783
instituto ludovig anos 20
instituto ludovig anos 20
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>>212081331 (OP)
older portuguese had a more aesthetic feel to it
Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 11:16:44 PM No.212083965
>>212083351
Some degree of modification on the original etymological roots has always been used. The Ancient Greeks wrote φαρμακεία and not pharmacia. Currently the etymological cues are still there, just slightly adapted, as they always been. If you read the word "farmacologia" you instantly know it's about the science of drugs because you recognize the Greek affixes, the etymology is still clear.

Considering pharmacia more etymologically consistent than farmácia is very arbitrary
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Anonymous Finland
6/24/2025, 11:20:53 PM No.212084104
>>212081331 (OP)
I think, in practical terms, the new orthographic accord changed many things for the better.
There are a couple of niche exceptions though, such as the word "Egipto" without the "p"; every other word that derives from it maintains the "p" except the original word.
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Anonymous Portugal
6/24/2025, 11:22:13 PM No.212084152
>>212083965
It's not arbitrary when it becomes increasingly difficult for other romance speakers to understand each other's written language.

The argument that the written form should reflect what niggers are speaking on the street would just mean

>Ele xtava trancuilu, max foi agilmente em diresão à farmácia dela.

You can't have it both ways, that is the arbitrary option because there is no logic to what should reflect speech 100% and what should keep etymological relatable.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/24/2025, 11:39:16 PM No.212084675
Cantiga de Amor
Cantiga de Amor
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>>212084152
>It's not arbitrary when it becomes increasingly difficult for other romance speakers to understand each other's written language.
Why should we care about that? And it's really easy to make transformations like ph->f, ll->l, cç->ç in your head

>>Ele xtava trancuilu, max foi agilmente em diresão à farmácia dela.
You can't write like that because a lot of Portuguese speakers don't speak like this

>You can't have it both ways, that is the arbitrary option because there is no logic to what should reflect speech 100% and what should keep etymological relatable.
The answer to that is very simple. We have to hold the language to a standard common to all people speaking the different dialects of that language. The most obvious way to do that would be to prefer the spelling used before dialects diverged, modifying it when it's necessary to reflect global changes. If you do this you will respect the inner etymological rules of the language but it will imply in modifying loan words and therefore "disrespecting" the etymology of foreign words.
Anonymous Brazil
6/25/2025, 12:06:18 AM No.212085616
>>212084104
>There are a couple of niche exceptions though, such as the word "Egipto" without the "p"; every other word that derives from it maintains the "p" except the original word.
Because the p is pronounced in these words but it wasn't in "Egipto". It's an inconsistency but it was caused by how people actually speak. Now native children who learn how to speak before learning how to write have less surprises with silent letters.
Anonymous Spain
6/25/2025, 12:13:14 AM No.212085823
>>212081477
I care about the original, not monkey-pidgin
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Anonymous Brazil
6/25/2025, 12:13:56 AM No.212085840
>>212085823
I don't care about you at all
Anonymous Brazil
6/25/2025, 12:15:18 AM No.212085876
>>212085823
Very low effort bait
Anonymous Brazil
6/25/2025, 12:38:29 AM No.212086450
>>212081331 (OP)
kys attention seeking whore. Go fuck yourself
Anonymous United States
6/25/2025, 12:49:03 AM No.212086725
>>212081331 (OP)
Spanish
Anonymous United States
6/25/2025, 12:51:40 AM No.212086802
>>212081331 (OP)
neither. diacritics are retarded.
Anonymous Portugal
6/25/2025, 1:03:51 AM No.212087128
>>212081331 (OP)
In Lisbon you can still find some really old Portuguese written in some buildings, like warning people not to put "annúncios" on the wall
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Anonymous United States
6/25/2025, 1:20:50 AM No.212087514
>>212081415
I care more about Brazil than Algeria Jr.
Anonymous Brazil
6/25/2025, 1:21:21 AM No.212087526
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I dislike shitflinging threads, I don't mind either.
although if you're from recife please refrain from speaking to me
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Anonymous Brazil
6/25/2025, 1:47:56 AM No.212088137
fachada-theatro-municipal-rio-de-janeiro
fachada-theatro-municipal-rio-de-janeiro
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>>212087128
We have some of these in our cities too
>>212087526
This isn't about shitflinging