What’s even the point in learning a foreign language if you’re never going to speak at the same level as a native?

for pussy mostly

>>212117697 (OP)
You can swear in another language and you can decipher if they are talking shit about you.

>>212117697 (OP)
to understand you, lardass

>>212117697 (OP)
Why would you want to speak at the same level as a native?

>>212117697 (OP)
whats the point of being alive if you're never gonna be me?
settle for less

>>212117697 (OP)
I adopt this mentality to all hobbies, skills, or other new things I learn and it’s quite depressing really because ultimately you realise that there’s no point in doing anything

>>212117697 (OP)
The native speakers might not want to speak to you too, maybe they're racist or something

I learn languages without the intention of ever speaking them
Maybe I will one day but it's not important to me

>>212117697 (OP)
There really is no point anymore with Ai, not saying Ai will be revolutionizing everything but as far as languages go Ai will make language learning completely redundant , we already have ai capable simultaneous translations tools for most languages and they are only getting better, in a couple years everybody will possess the tools integrated to seamlessly communicate with every human on the planet without language barriers , it's not science fiction anymore its Ai future

>>212117697 (OP)
For me it was the ability to watch anime without crappy subtitles (and dubs are disgusting), read original manga, play imported Japanese games and actually get around Japan without Google Translate.

it was worth every minute of studying.

>>212120299
how will it be different from what google translate already does
who wants to have a conversation relayed through an ai translator

>>212120567
It will be simultaneous translation and since AI can literally mimick your voice it will be like you speaking in every language and you will also hear the other person's natural voice speaking in your language

>>212120168
Why would you only halfass a language? You want to be B1 for the rest of your life? What’s the point in that?

>>212120363
It’s rewarding to make progress and see results, but at the same time every time you hear
>Your [Japanese/German/French etc] is so good!

It’s like a subtle reminder that you’ll always be the gaijin and even if you look like a native as soon as you open your mouth you’re found out. There will always be some idiom you don’t understand, some word you don’t know, or some idiosyncrasy that you are unaware of. Especially for anglos, since everyone worldwide has already studied English since they were 1month in the womb versus you most likely picking up a second language in your late teens or twenties. Not to mention that English is the lingua Franca so people (even native speakers) are used to ESL’s with an accent or something, and you’re that eccentric foreigner that tries his best to speak Estonian and everyone pities

>>212117697 (OP)
I want to watch cartoons from my childhood in Japanese and maybe go on vacation to Japan if I get crypto rich

>>212117697 (OP)
I also think learning French is just cool and cultured unironically. Go ahead. Mock me. Yeah I'm a namefag too.

>>212117697 (OP)
you can use it to speak to a foreigner who also speak shitty broken enlglish

>>212121044
Nigga this is 2036; 4 year olds in Africa are hitting C1 English now

>>212117697 (OP)
My gf is from Canada and I've been helping her with English, I can almost understand her now.

>>212117697 (OP)
Its possible to speak at or above a native. Lots of natives are only at c1 (c2 is advanced literature and things like that). You will never *sound* exactly like a native which is no big deal

>>212117697 (OP)
learning anything in the age of AI is absolutely pointless

>>212120996
When you grow up you'll realize life isn't a video game that you need to 100% complete.

>>212121414
Burnout detected

>>212121344
Human IQ is normally distributed; i.e. lots of native speakers are retarded (literally). You are not going to speak at a higher level than someone who got through high school or uni. This is like telling an ESL that he can speak English better than some Ebonics gorilla.

>>212120996
>It’s like a subtle reminder that you’ll always be the gaijin
And I enjoy that. I love the Japanese and their love for foreigners who speak the language. It's always appreciated and I've had more conversation because of that, than for any other reason.

>>212122794
And you still get patronized by Japs for holding a basic conversation. It’s the same idea as praising the retard for holding a job at McDonald’s and expecting more of a regular person.

If I came to Sweden and really applied myself at the language you’d appreciate it but I’d always be that goofy American who really wants to learn Swedish for some reason. Odds are you would always have it in the back of your mind that Swedish isn’t my first language and give me a pat on the head when I got something right grammatically but think a native speaker was retarded if he made the mistakes I did. Even if only subconsciously you’d treat me differently. I would rather have every single sentence I speak be ripped apart every day than have some patronizing fuckhead smile and tell me my “Swedish is so good!” for speaking at an A2 level.

>>212117697 (OP)
I just like to suffer, so language learning is an absolute goldmine specifically because I will never be "perfect" no matter what

>>212121132
>4 year olds in Africa are hitting C1 English now
And yet OP is a perma-A2 in Spanish. How does it feel? This is why you need to learn at minimum a second language, so you're not brain mogged by thirdies.

>>212123887
No, I have two Americans working in our office. They speak adequate Swedish and nobody cares.
This sound more like a problem living in our own head than irl.