How do you cope with the fact that your country's history isn't as interesting as China's?

>>212159790 (OP)
By looking at what my cunt achieved in less than 250 years

>>212159827
Your cunt is slavery and walmart

>>212159790 (OP)
>Ming ZeDing comes into power
>100 million perish
>rinse and repeat for 5000 years

Very interesting

>>212160503
china didn't pass 100 million in population until around 1000 ad, so that's not possible

How did a people so sophisticated end up being humiliated by the Westoids?

>>212160594
1 it was a manchu dynasty, non-han dynasties have no sophistication
2 europeans cheated with the industrialization made possible by colonialization

given the context in any other universe could china survive the european interventions? not really, china always looked down on the mercantile class, chinese imperial government would not support any kind of resource extraction type of colonization the european engaged as china had surplus labor force to work the resources by hand, so yea the large poor workforce did have an oppressive force on industrialization

>>212160689
Basically Westoids be like:
I am rich and intelligent, I want to be even richer and have all sorts of nice things from around the world
Kudos Wypipo for being courageous

>>212160817
lol no, it was because the middle class started to demand rights and the nobility couldn't make money on their own land anymore
the spanish conquistators were all minor nobles that couldn't afford land and peasants
when the british established the company colonies the guarantors were all nobles, it really was all about the nobility trying to regain power and wealth

>>212160273
go back to China if you love China so much, Chang

>>212160909
Did the major plagues that wiped out a lot of the serfs and peasants have to do with allowing the surviving lowborns to gain leverage for their labor?

>>212159790 (OP)
Oh yes mighty battles of 300mln each, sure I of believing in those

>>212159827
>europeans go abroad and make a muttified schizo europe copy that constantly lags behing 50-100 years in development
so what did you achieve really, what is your history?

>>212159790 (OP)
I find my country's history to be most interesting.

>>212160986
generally the plagues wiped out entire clusters of population, the effect is more of a power vacuum and recompaction as historians say, ie, looser feudal hierarchies because many steps in the feudal steps of the society just disappeared

so yes free cities and special feudal exceptions became more common and burgers had more power of negotiation but the peasants no little power, the peasant empowerment didn't happen until the french revolution

>>212159790 (OP)
modern Chinese don't do a good job of telling Chinese history desu. It's all Three Kingdoms, Tang/Qing harem politics and Wuxia shit.
Japs do a better job of making Chinese history cool. They make media about interesting period of Chinese history
>>212160689
Chinese look down on soldiers too

>>212161208
only during song because they didn't want the empire to implode like tang did since the jiedushi were basically kings

>>212161271
this is for military officials

soldiering was just a job for peasants, but merchants wasn't a peasant, they were migrant workers that didn't work the land, and according to old confucian ethics produced nothing

>>212161319

Chinese civil service exams should've expanded to other fields than just administration, like science and medicine. But scientific knowledge building should be a private sector thing so wealthy Chinese could've built private universities

>>212159790 (OP)
How would I know? Mao deleted Chinas history during the cultural revolution.

>>212161358
except "science and medicine" are western categories and knowledge
science itself did not exist as a discipline and medicine was in the realm of mysticism, this is why all chinese discoveries were written in terms of daoism since it provided a comprehensive world view, and how natural phenomenon's all had daoist names
if china had no contact there is very little chance they would even try to relate medicine with empirical experiments

europe had the scientific revolution too so they cheated twice

>>212161460
So the Chinese were very rational and pragmatic when dealing with matters of military theory, strategy, administration, human psychology and diplomacy but they couldn't give two shits about STEM and resorted to voodoo? What do you make of this dichotomy?

>>212161668
"stem" wasn't a thing in the west either until the 16th century
imperial china was basically stuck that that stage

it really is the movable printer, people like to deny it but the speed and the spread of ideas is paramount in changing the dogma of power

sure china had mechanical printers but they couldn't print whatever they want it was a state industry and was closely watched, all kind of heretical materials were printed in the days of the movable press in europe, eventually things settled down but when lay people begin to read the bible all kinds of weird things happened

>>212161400
Kek, china post market reform probably did that in overdrive.

>>212159790 (OP)
China is pretty cool
I was learning about the Shang dynasty the other day
they built by far the largest city in the world at the time, and the main purpose of it was human sacrifice on an industrial scale
this was before the mandate of heaven concept had really come into being, the Shang Kings were Shaman-Kings in a society mainly based around ancestor worship and the appeasement of ancestor and nature spirits, they used animal bones to divine the future and massive amounts of human(and animal) sacrifice to placate them

cool shit, but every country has interesting history and time periods so your post is kind of dumb from the get-go

>>212159790 (OP)
but it kind of is though

by being chinese