You may not believe it but there is no suffering in Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7lePGbWQc
Hi, today, I would like you to give our Japanese first reactions

Japan is becoming increasingly poorer — the average salary is now half that of the United States.

I suffer as a Japanese from a Western country
No proper firm here took my overseas degree seriously
I can only do meme English-Japanese bilingual jobs

>25 hours of overtime a month
I don't think I have totalled 25 hours of overtime in my career.

>8 million yen/yr
lmao

>>212162784
Japenis goverment most likely want English speaking Japenis people there

>>212162846
>>8 million yen/yr
Sadly, this is pretty good income in Japan...
We are poor now.

>>212163134
Is this pretax or post tax?

>>212162846
I haven't totalled more than 25 hours of work in the last two years.

>>212162730 (OP)
That's because he is in a developed nation. He could be the same inkwell in Bangladesh and he'll be working as a textile worker 20 hours a day for $10 every month

>>212163175
It's pretax.

>>212162846
>>25 hours of overtime a month
Japanese "overtime" is watching YT videos and waiting until the manager finally leaves

>>212163247
It depends on company though.

>>212162730 (OP)
Kek my life is exactly like his except I'm 30

>>212163211
Got it. Is this a good salary in large cities or just the provincional regions?
If we're talking outside of major cities then 8 million yen equivalent in złoty before tax would be an amazing salary in Poland.
But in places like Warsaw it's average.

>>212163265
The western ones where people are actually productive don't overtime that much
>depends
Yeah, no doubt that some % of people actually have to work a lot, I doubt it's somehow different in London or New York tho

>>212163314
>But in places like Warsaw it's average.
Google says its 8k-9k zlotys tho
I think you are a little delusional about "the average"

>>212163314
It's good salary even for Tokyo. And he is in Yokohama, basically 10km from Tokyo.

>>212163376
>I think you are a little delusional about "the average"
the average counts in room temperature IQ muppets who have been earning nothing but minimum wage for the last 4 generations, it has very little to do with reality.

H8>>212163376
Average in warsaw is 11600 and average nationwide is 8100 lmao

>>212163314
Average in Warsaw is not 5 000 EUR per month

>>212163435
Well then your "average" (this is what you wrote) must be different from the Japanese "average" because there are shittons of grandfas whose yearly income is somewhere around 20 million of yen a year, but then we would end up in a copious conversation where our averages are not averages but delusions. You said "average" which does not correspond to the reality. That would be some 90th percentile

>>212163462
mathematical average? It isn't
average as in it affords you to have a comfortable life? very much so

>>212163494
I meant average as an intermediate term between "bad" and "amazing" not average as in mathematical statistic. I don't know what exactly about my post indicates otherwise.

>>212163513
If your "average" is the average required to sustain standard quality of life then I have no questions.

>>212163524
I sincerely apologize for the confusion. I have read my previous posts and realized I have been confusing the two terms as well.

Statistically average poolack is poor as shit no question about it because our population of low-income earners in rural areas is still a siginificant portion of our country.

>>212163579
lmao my sides dude

>>212163579
shut the fuck up already retard

>>212163695

>>212163316
>The western ones where people are actually productive don't overtime that much
I heard the other way round. Those Japanese workers who worked in famous western investment banks work from early in the morning to the early in the morning.

how much are you guys paid in your cunt(net)

>>212163247
Is it really true that everyone just sits on their hands and do nothing for like 2 hours per day pretending to be busy, waiting for the manager to leave first?

>>212163579
His income can afford him travels to USA and UK and lots of visits to soapland. Average Japanese don't travel abroad once a year

>>212163316
I work about 2 hours of (unpaid) overtime per day. There is a lot to do all the time. But I'm in the minority, most businesses don't do overtime, it's not seen as a good thing to work extra hours, it's a sign of inefficiency and poor planning

>>212163789
Don't take my word for guaranteed but let's try to be a little objective here and compare Japanese overtime with the German "I'm not gonna bother working more than 5 hours a day". Why did the German economy surpass the Japanese one? Maybe because it's not about the number of hours but quality? I'm not saying that Japanese are lazy and just pretend to be working, that would be a huge lie because Japanese people are very detail-oriented and their product has high quality, I'm just saying that some rumors about Japanese overtime are a bit exaggerated.

>>212163821
>it's a sign of inefficiency and poor planning
and rightfully so, but in the Japanese society it's seen as a good sign of dedication. The sooner that meme dies the better.

>Frequent visits to soaplands
True they cannot suffer

>>212163747
I am paid more than 10M yen but I work for American company. If I work for local company I'd earn 8M like the OP because here salary is decided by age (I'm 40 too)

会社によって違うとしかマジで言えないんだよね。
血反吐吐きそうなほど濃い労働密度で長時間残業してるとこもあれば、残業代のためとか上司がいる手前帰れないみたいなふわふわした残業もある。海外の大学出て英語が堪能になってもこればっかりは一概にこうって言えないんだよ。

>>212163939
Do you feel like in Japan that workers can afford to buy a house on 8M-10M yen salary?

>>212164073
Yes. You can buy a house with cheaper salary. But house is only important if you have a family.

>>212162730 (OP)
>going on holiday to the UK when you live in Japan
Can't imagine a more awful experience.

>>212163873
Germans are very unproductive however. Their economic "miracle" was mostly just rehabilitating the east, funded by cheap fossil fuel and massive influx of eastern european labor. The German economy is doing very badly as its poor decisions are catching up to i. And germans themselves work poorly. They are overly rigid, to the point where it often impacts performance.

>>212162730 (OP)
I’ll move there someday

>>212163310
Would you consider it a good life ?

i'm travelling to japan next month

>>212165534
hope you have a nice time

>>212165586
thanks!

>>212162730 (OP)
>Weekend and holidays off is seen as a flex in Japan
grim