Thread 212195996 - /int/ [Archived: 727 hours ago]

Anonymous Lebanon
6/28/2025, 9:43:31 AM No.212195996
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>The Ottomans enslaved European boys primarily through the devşirme system, a levy that required Christian communities to provide young boys as a form of tribute
why were they like this
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 9:48:10 AM No.212196075
Pretty wacky that one person could be a virtuous caring good neighbor or a ruthless warlord pedophile depending on what prophet they follow, right? Haha islam is such a vile, disgusting blight upon this planet.
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 9:53:47 AM No.212196173
>>212195996 (OP)
it is not enslavement
devşirme and slavery are different things
it's more like conscription
it only lasted up until mid 1600s and there were extra rules to it like only taking 1 boy per 40 households in a village etc.
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 9:56:45 AM No.212196225
>>212196173
>1 boy per 40 households
Of course you dogs turned gangrape into a cultural tradition.
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 9:57:46 AM No.212196238
>>212196225
what does it have to do with gang rape you retard?
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 9:59:26 AM No.212196262
>>212196238
You REALLY think swarthy barbarians would take child slaves and be nice to them? Here comes the taqiyya..
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:01:53 AM No.212196308
>>212196262
i already told you they weren't slaves
they had better lives than their peasant families
muslim bosnians and albanians sent their to children to devşirme on their own
why are you so retarded
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Anonymous Italy
6/28/2025, 10:03:00 AM No.212196328
>>212195996 (OP)
>>The Ottomans enslaved European
>svlavshits
>european
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 10:04:38 AM No.212196356
>>212196308
Sure buddy, those white Christian boys weren't seen as a sex trophy in a culture where conquest of everything that isn't brown and retarded is seen as a virtue, uh huh. Like I said, here comes the taqiyya.
Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 10:07:05 AM No.212196387
>>212196075
The Ottoman empire was far more humane than any of its contemporaries. Europeans were murdering eachother for being a different flavor of christian which led many of them to become refugees in the Ottoman Empire.
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Anonymous Germany
6/28/2025, 10:07:26 AM No.212196394
>>212196328
this
Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 10:10:07 AM No.212196431
>>212196173
>>212196308

I'm always surprised seeing Turks trying to defend this system. Yes, they were given training and relatively good living standards, but they were still stolen from their families, converted to a different religion and used in war as a tool. If someone took your son, converted him to a different religion and used him possibly against you as a soldier, would that be nice?

Also, my countryman brings up a valid point. Turks are notoriously gay and like boy fucking. It probably happened a lot too, it just isn't talked about a lot in source material.
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 10:12:17 AM No.212196468
>>212196387

Hello my Turkish friend. You might want to read a little about Turkish campaigns in the Balkans and what they did to the locals. It was absolutely bestial. Not that Europeans were free of sin, but the whole 'muh Ottomans are so humane and tolerant' argument is horseshit and simply not true.
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:13:35 AM No.212196492
>>212196431
it is definitely better than what europeans did which was straight up murdering everyone who wasn't following their own religion
also it's you guys who are constantly talking about having sex with children you should stop projecting your subhuman fetish towards us
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/28/2025, 10:16:23 AM No.212196537
>>212196492

>it is definitely better than what europeans did which was straight up murdering everyone who wasn't following their own religion

Some conflicts aside, this also isn't true. Religious violence happened, but some places like The Netherlands and Poland were fairly renowned for their religious freedom and we did it without enslaving children, converting them and using them as soldiers. It's hard to understand why you keep defending that system.
Anonymous Norway
6/28/2025, 10:17:35 AM No.212196557
>take children to make them soldiers
>rightoids start talking pedo shit
im no fan of turks but you are a mentally ill gay little fag
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:21:35 AM No.212196627
>>212196468
of course ottomans were human and tolerant
why are you projecting so hard it's fucking hilarious
ever since the start and the end of the ottoman empire they tolerated religious and ethnic minorities and lived together with them
when there was a genocide of jews and muslims in spain ottomans send ships to rescue them and likewise it was ottomans that saved hundreds of thousands of circassians when russians were genociding them
when crusaders were beheading every muslim turks in the cities they conquered ottomans spared the knights of rhodes after their conquest
it was anti ottoman wallachian rebellion that murered thousands of civilians by putting them up on stake and they are seen as heroes against the ottomans in western literature
you guys are the barbarian vile subhumans but just because you won over us in later stages of history you think you get to rewrite it to seem you were the good guys
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Anonymous Sweden
6/28/2025, 10:23:32 AM No.212196651
>>212196557
>cuts off their balls
yeah nothing weird going on here my unibrow friend
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:24:55 AM No.212196679
>>212196651
they were not castrated
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Anonymous Sweden
6/28/2025, 10:26:00 AM No.212196696
>>212196679
>Yes, the Ottoman Empire did employ eunuchs, and castration was a method used to create them. Eunuchs served in various roles, including palace servants and harem guards, and were often imported as slaves. The practice of castration was forbidden for Muslims, so eunuchs were often brought from other regions where it was performed

uhm????
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:27:06 AM No.212196714
>>212196696
devshirme were not castrated you retard
you don't know what you are talking about
it was harem guard that were castrated
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Anonymous Norway
6/28/2025, 10:28:48 AM No.212196752
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>>212196651
>janissary were eunuchs
ok sven
Anonymous Sweden
6/28/2025, 10:29:32 AM No.212196769
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>>212196714
yes sir nothing gay here
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Anonymous Italy
6/28/2025, 10:30:25 AM No.212196785
>>212196387
I suggest you go back quietly and peacefully while you still can, because within the next decade there will be brown blood flowing through the streets of Evropa like rain in October
Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:31:15 AM No.212196808
>>212196769
>starts talking about gay sex out of nowhere again
why are you guys like this
genuinely
is it in the water there
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Anonymous Sweden
6/28/2025, 10:33:13 AM No.212196846
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>>212196808
pictured - turks gangraping a boy
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 10:34:30 AM No.212196865
>>212196846
why are you so obsessed with this
no one here is interested in your twisted fetishes so stop sharing them with us
Anonymous France
6/28/2025, 10:58:56 AM No.212197363
>>212196627
Kek I bet you didn't commit genocide against the Armenians either? That's Western propaganda too.
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Anonymous Turkey
6/28/2025, 11:02:40 AM No.212197443
>>212197363
kek i bet you didn't commit genocide against algerians either? that's anti-western propaganda too.