have shitalian mafiozi run the already disreputable public transport infrastructure to the ground in your country?

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yes they have

>shitalian company closes down physical ticket booths
>makes people download and use the app which was created with EU and greek government dividends
>shitty pajeet tier app cant communicate with the server and doesn't send the ticket in pdf form(yes a pdf you heard that right) but it draws money from your debit card without any trouble which are non refundable since there is no ticket except one random number which you cant paste anywhere

>>212242566 (OP)
No, we did it to ourselves

>>212243904
why would you ever use a debit card for this? With any credit card you can just dispute the charge and win because visa knows all transit agencies are corrupt, incompetent, and don't have modern computers. You can also just buy a car anyway.

>>212243924
>german complaining about infrastructure
was your train to the umbfelstrumfandeplastebahnfurher 2 minutes late again ?

I keep forgetting that Greece has train technology. Why don't you just take a ferry as your ancestors did? Soon all the ferries will be self-driving and will be basically free anyway.

>>212244154
grok?

>>212244012
>debit card
there is no credit card culture here we are not like trumpland

>>212244241
all your pos terminals take visa and mastercard, I know because that's how I paid for my train tickets. And when they fucked it up 1 phone call it was fixed. Unfortunately none of you take my AmEx which is how I paid for my connection flight (main flight paid by taxpayers because GI)

>trenitalia is the best train operator in europe
>hellenic trains the second worst
sounds like you are the problem, it's like if terroni ran our whole infrastructure lol

>>212244186
greece is a water country so you'd think that your entire civilization would be based around boats

san francisco still kinda does this but not as well, and the ferry rides are basically free since the california clean transit mandate forces companies above 1,000 employees to offer free prepaid transit cards to employees. They also take credit and because nobody uses the ferry it's very easy to just dispute the payment and ride free

>>212243904
Name literally one thing with PDF tickets (that you can transfer to any device or even print out if you really want to) compared to an app (that only works on a phone and requires battery or sometimes even network connection)

>>212244301
I had issues with trenitalia. They were completely useless in getting me to pompei because their computers don't talk to campania rail and apparently campania rail is still cash only. I figured it out, since I take transit a lot in America and it's the same way here, but it was lame because I was trying to do digital only to reduce the amount of cash I had to buy. Also naples transit employees are clueless and they had teenagers drive my train.

>>212244301
>trenitalia is like the reputable michelin star restaurant where the mafiosi hangout
>hellenic train is the equivalent of the public infrastructure constructions /garbage disposal business controlled by the mafia where all the racketeering via underbidding cheap materials and intentionally lousy service takes place

>>212244471
what do you mean??? im not the one who issues tickets in pdf form

>>212244471
uhm you certainly didnt understand my post the electronic tickets are issued by the company itself in pdf form with a qr code on the pdf, the app more often than not fails to sent the pdf to the email you filled in

hellooooooo?

>>212242566 (OP)
>>212243904
very rude hepitet, I hate gayreeks now.

>>212247548
I enjoyed greece when I visited but I didn't stay in athens longer than it took to leave athens. Why would you voluntarily live in athens?

gayrecoshitalian excellence

>>212247731
i live in patras the dirtiest city in greece and the mafia doesnt even control garbage disposal

>>212247813
the trap listening zoomie ticket inspector told me that if the situation was different he "would tell me"

>>212243904
>>shitty pajeet tier app cant communicate with the server and doesn't send the ticket in pdf form
Speaking as the guy on the other side of that equation, companies would have cheap ass software and quick development time then pay up just a bit more or not have unrealistic deadlines. They'd rather gamble then actually put out something stable but not as cheap and needs consistent maintenance schedules.

>>212248848
dont make me tap the sign, oversight that is profitable and persists after it has been noted and reported multiple times is no longer oversight due to incompetence it becomes intentional planned and malicious, same goes for supermarkets overcharging you or not taking into account an advertised discount, precision strikes, with bombs, that are never precise. The oversight is almost always preventable but always accounted and a welcomed serendipity

>>212242566 (OP)
borrow the jew trains during Shabbat

>>212244301
I think Spain and France got us beat, but yeah Trenitalia got decent in the last 10 years

>>212249565
don’t know about France but Spain is only marginally better in high speed trains, they don’t have as good a regional service as trenitalia.

>>212249565
weird how trendy italia became good in the same time-span they acquired greek railway use.....almost as if all the monopoly money from greece werent reinvested in the greek trains let alone the greek railway system on which these trains operate on

>>212247548
Hello what nigga?
The italian company is responsible for the condition of the trains, the schedules and the issuing of tickets.
The functions of the railway network and its supervision, maintenance, control oversight, track upkeep and design were being managed by ΟΣΕ and ΕΡΓΟΣΕ, GREEK public companies.

>>212249970
omg le gonspiracy

>>212250037
hello hellenic train is a defacto public company just like dei, specifically because the railway network is operated by the state, same as the electricity network, who will bail them out if the fail?


https://www.metaforespress.gr/sidirodromos/%CE%B5%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%B2%CE%B5%CE%B2%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%89%CF%83%CE%B7-metaforespress-gr-%CE%BF-%CE%B1%CE%B8%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%AC%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%82-%CE%B6%CE%B7%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%BA%CF%8C/

>>212250239
Nice non-answer.
Is it a greek public company?
Is it responsible for greek dumbfucks sending trains on a collision course?

>>212250236
stating facts is now a conspiracy...apparently the way to have a successful locomotive company is not to reinvest profit towards bettering the network and trains but have low tax remittances given to ceos who are appointed by the shitalian government....i dont know how someone would call this but this is LITERALLY what racketeering is

>>212250371
you mean mitsotakis and karamanlis? yes shitlaians are also partially and indirectly responsible for not reinvesting any of their monopoly profits and EU subsidies issued to their company by the greek state, when the shitalians first came they brought their own public contractors supposedly to install etcs and take on other safety and infrastructure projects and finally connect patras-agio with athens, they stalled and made excuses until karamanlis rightly decided to annul the contract but not take them to european court so that they could give back around 500million in dividends and advanced payments, and karamanlis also decided to continue reimbursing instead of withholding eu funding as some sort of fine for them oney they had received

>>212250418
shouldn’t your government be planning and building new infrastructure? has Greece really become such a banana republic where a train operator is expected to build railroads and shit? grim if true.

>>212250418
all railroads are like this
if your railroad was owned by usa it would have been dismantled and the villages exported to usa for reeducation into american society, as what happened to my homeland (mexico)

>>212250805
how can a state invest money in something that doesnt render them any profits ? why do shipping companies invest and acquire stakes in big ports?

>>212250877
damn Greek education also be looking kinda grim, did somebody steal the schools too?

>>212250779
>incoherent rambling of no account
>could/should/partially responsible
Guy, ΟΣΕ and its subsidiaries are of greek STATE interest.
Face the fact that greeks are worthless little specimens who can't even manage a railway network properly, a task even pajeets and a sundry of failed states do successfully every single day.
You are more incompetent than a cow-dung eating indian and jungle-tramping africans. Let that sink in.

>>212250968
greece has always been a banana republic but in most countries there is something called public–private partnership which is apparently an unknown word in thel and of the mafiosi see>>212250779 for more of what you did. And there are more interesting trivia when shitalian ceo/lawyer stopped all construction because of a puddle claiming they had to do the designs and studies all over again and demanded around 50 million more


https://www.capital.gr/epixeiriseis/3231507/upografes-gia-to-ergo-pou-fernei-pio-konta-tin-patra-stin-athina/

>>212251481
shitalians stole more than 1billion worth of funds along with galazies akrides! next you will say this was all PAPANTREO FAULT

>>212251609
time to invent tribunals I guess?
lmao what the fuck

>>212251851
>tribunals
greece elected to not take further legal actions against the contractor company and you can imagine why that was, because a significant amount of that money had gone to the pockets of greek politicians civil servants etc

>>212251962
>whole country is corrupt
>yeah but this ONE company though
I think you can see for yourself the problem is bigger, don’t get me wrong I feel your pain but seems kinda shortsighted to conveniently blame it all on the nondescript foreigners.

>>212252084
that never happened with german contractors,


"when in rome do as the romans do especially when you are the romans yourselves then you feel right at home"

>>212252283
never happened as far as you know*