Thread 212255951 - /int/ [Archived: 779 hours ago]

Anonymous Japan
6/30/2025, 12:30:53 AM No.212255951
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why is the US literally the only already developed country that can consistently grow its economy?
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 12:33:02 AM No.212256016
>>212255951 (OP)
Unrestricted finance capital and immigrants o algo
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Anonymous Turkey
6/30/2025, 12:33:46 AM No.212256032
>>212255951 (OP)
America did not just build businesses it reinvented the global economy. Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft these are empires. They started in garages and dorm rooms and now shape the digital world. Europe? It gave us Spotify and even that had to expand to the US to stay alive. Why? Because Europe fears risk, clings to outdated regulations and resists disruption. Try launching a startup in France or Germany you will drown in paperwork before you even raise your first euro.

Europe is stuck in its own echo chamber. It brags about its history, praises its safety nets and talks endlessly about ethics and equality all while slowly falling behind. The population is aging, the economy is slowing and innovation is stagnating. It is a museum pretending to be a rocket ship.

America is a capitalist beast and its not sorry. It builds giants, embraces chaos and turns bold ideas into billion dollar realities.
Anonymous Canada
6/30/2025, 12:35:45 AM No.212256080
>>212255951 (OP)
it's the only country that truly still innovates

all of the genious entrepreneurs creating billion dollar unicorns are subsidizing the rest of Americans and big government spending
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 12:47:46 AM No.212256384
>>212255951 (OP)
the spike you see in 2020 to now is inflation, real growth is different
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:02:04 AM No.212256736
Government and corporations non stop importing millions for cheaper labor. Helps the economy go up but destroys everything else for the average citizen
Anonymous Denmark
6/30/2025, 1:07:22 AM No.212256867
>>212255951 (OP)
They can strongarm everyone into deals favorable to them. Kinda like a rigged casino.
Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 1:08:07 AM No.212256883
>>212255951 (OP)
1. Military hegemony means you can divide et impera worldwide.
2. Worker rights are communism, so wagies make more slop for less benefits.
3. The said wagies cope with their shitty working conditions by consuming the same goyslop they produce.
4. Military hegemony means you can have virtually unlimited imports for the production of said goyslop.
It works like a Swiss watch desu. You cannot pull something like Nord Stream on America. America can pull a Nord Stream on others and then sell them expensive LNG goyslop. Itโ€™s that simple.
Anonymous Argentina
6/30/2025, 1:11:08 AM No.212256960
>>212256016
And US immigrants have to pass through a filter, i.e. risk their lives and spend their life savings to enter illegally, or wait 10 years and don't miss a single appointment to enter legally. You're getting people who work. Europe imported 30 IQ inbred refugees and handed them money.
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Anonymous Finland
6/30/2025, 1:16:49 AM No.212257078
American inflation adjusted wages have gone up by like 25% in 50 years while productivity has gone up like 100%, interesting innit?
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 1:18:28 AM No.212257115
Their economy is fake, they get to import 500 billion/year in free gibs because of the privilege of the dollar being the reserve currency
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/30/2025, 1:19:35 AM No.212257138
>>212255951 (OP)
They're the largest economy in the world, with the strongest military backing them up. Everyone wants to put money in America because they know it'll make more money.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:19:48 AM No.212257140
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>>212256384
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:20:51 AM No.212257162
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>>212257140
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:22:20 AM No.212257188
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>>212257162
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:23:20 AM No.212257208
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>>212257188
life expectancy
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Anonymous Finland
6/30/2025, 1:32:05 AM No.212257382
>>212257208
This is the actually dire statistic, wealth/poverty usually tends to have a direct correlation with life expectancy
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:33:43 AM No.212257425
>>212257078
The result of importing 80 million third world immigrants that shouldnโ€™t even be here within the past 60 years and also probably computers
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Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 1:40:32 AM No.212257543
>>212255951 (OP)
It was because they could just print dollars and everyone would exchange it for actual things with value. Now orangeman blew this up lmao
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:40:41 AM No.212257546
>>212257208
this is due to obesity over anything else. Preventative measures are much bigger factors for health and there are too many obese here that get no exercise and eat fried chicken, chimichangas, and little Debbie snacks all day. Fat camps should be mandated for anyone over a certain bmi/bf%
Anonymous Finland
6/30/2025, 1:42:36 AM No.212257584
>>212257425
The implication is that amerigolem goycattle get breadcrumbs while making increasing amounts of profit for their hook-nosed owners
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Anonymous Ireland
6/30/2025, 1:45:32 AM No.212257626
We have consistent growth too but then again, our economy just parasites off American companies so it's just a function of their growth anyway :)
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:46:56 AM No.212257644
>>212257584
>>212257115
These two. Also remember that a lot of American economic growth comes from exploiting working people in ways that wouldnโ€™t be possible in first world societies. Europeans are right to not fall for the GDP (goyim domestic product) meme.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:51:19 AM No.212257711
>>212257584
Exactly, when you import millions of workers you increase the supply and subsequently the wages are depressed. With third world workers they are depressed even more as these people will work for less and work longer hours so they donโ€™t have to live in their shithole country anymore. Increased artificial population puts a strain on housing as well, decreasing supply and raising demand subsequently increasing property values, which the rich are heavily invested in.

California is one of the best examples of this, as the state was ~90% white in the 60s and it is now less than 40%. California is full of wealthy people, but what about the average person? Adjusting for the cost of living difference caused by so many people and inflation over time, the median household income in 1965 was 2x the median today. When you factor in the median household back then was closer to 1 breadwinner, and today it is closer to 2, it results in a 3x difference.
Anonymous Japan
6/30/2025, 2:44:20 AM No.212258436
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>>212255951 (OP)
Actually, S&P495 isn't that different from Japan in growth. S&P5 is just too powerful.
Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 2:46:07 AM No.212258467
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Because it forces the entire world through its blue water navy to use the US dollar or face the consequences. But China is soon contesting that blue water navy on Taiwan and we will probably see WW3
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 2:46:45 AM No.212258480
>>212255951 (OP)
German ancestry (millions of krauts coming over for centuries) without the bullshit of German culture.
Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 2:50:48 AM No.212258536
>>212258467
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 2:57:32 AM No.212258626
>>212258467
>But China is soon contesting that blue water navy on Taiwan and we will probably see WW3
It's far more likely that the DPP will shit itself and Taiwan will voluntarily move towards reunification with the mainland over fears of an unreliable partnership with the US. Any possibility of military action will 100% be a result of the US trying to prevent this scenario from playing out.
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 2:58:46 AM No.212258637
>>212255951 (OP)
Invested into high tech instead of oldtroon shit third worlders can do like welding
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Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 2:58:49 AM No.212258638
>>212258626
Anyway China is pumping up ships like there is no tomorrow. Even if taiwan folds, it will contest the US hegemony on blue waters
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:02:35 AM No.212258681
>>212258637
High tech like... uhm... a website that can be copied with a 3 hour tutorial but was run in a limitless multi-million annual loss for 15 years to collect market share!!! (China is evil by the way, and fully automated factories aren't technology)
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 3:04:40 AM No.212258701
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>>212257188
That graph is misleading and fake.
Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:07:24 AM No.212258734
>>212258681
Nvidia alone is worth 4 trillion $
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:08:52 AM No.212258754
>>212258734
>he fell for that boomer AI bubble
kek
Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 3:09:57 AM No.212258771
>>212258734
It is easy to aggregate all worldwide talent when you basically force the entire world to accept your your currency and your country as the best place to invest.
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:11:29 AM No.212258794
>>212258734
And Tesla is worth more than the entire test of the global automotive industry combined despite making less than 0.1% of vehicles
Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:14:46 AM No.212258841
Are airplanes technology?
Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:17:39 AM No.212258877
>>212258771
It's really curious how Britain stopped being innovative overnight after they handed the keys to the North Atlantic and all naval infrastructure in the western hemisphere to the usa
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Anonymous Philippines
6/30/2025, 3:20:22 AM No.212258921
>>212255951 (OP)
Every big thing in America was made inside someone's room or a garage. From tech companies to musicians
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:22:29 AM No.212258944
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>>212258921
In contrast to....?
Anonymous Israel
6/30/2025, 3:25:26 AM No.212258971
>>212255951 (OP)
*Ahem*

36 trillion dollar debt.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 3:30:29 AM No.212259040
>>212255951 (OP)
It's the leader of the western empire. Wealth extracted from other nations principally flows into the US.
Anonymous Saudi Arabia
6/30/2025, 3:33:13 AM No.212259095
>>212258971
>36 trillion dollar debt.
who are they indebted to? *stares menacingly*
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:34:57 AM No.212259120
>>212259095
China, Japan, Germany among others
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Anonymous Saudi Arabia
6/30/2025, 3:45:00 AM No.212259244
>>212259120
>Global world debt is 305 trillion USD
so what is humanity indebted to?
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Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 3:47:40 AM No.212259276
>>212258971
Net debt
>>212259244
Gross debt

Arab shown to be a dumbass once again
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 4:16:27 AM No.212259642
>>212258734
stocks are a fucking meme. the products and services NVIDIA produces are in no way worth 4 trillion dollars
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Anonymous Norway
6/30/2025, 4:39:24 AM No.212259924
>>212259642
>he attempts to distinguish value as a distinct quality
That way lies only madness, turn back to save your soul.
Anonymous Finland
6/30/2025, 4:51:36 AM No.212260086
The virtual economy is nothing but hot air. Wild times ahead.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 4:55:45 AM No.212260129
>>212258467
>But China is soon contesting that blue water navy on Taiwan
China literally doesn't have a single nuclear carrier nor any under construction. The US has 11 in service and 3 under construction.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 4:56:54 AM No.212260149
>>212258638
>Anyway China is pumping up ships like there is no tomorrow. Even if taiwan folds, it will contest the US hegemony on blue waters
Diesel ships can't contest hegemony in blue waters. It's really that simple.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 4:58:03 AM No.212260160
>>212258877
It wasn't overnight, they drove themselves bankrupt during WWI and everything after that was just downhill.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 5:00:49 AM No.212260198
>>212258971
You kikes really played us like a fiddle, kudos
Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 5:31:42 AM No.212260618
>>212260149
>>212260149
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_004_aircraft_carrier
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 5:34:47 AM No.212260655
>>212260618
>mobile view
Oh shit, they supposedly started building one a year ago? Oh fuck, the US might be under serious threat by 2042!
>In 2017, China hoped to complete the carrier by the late 2020s, and indicated that up to four might be built.[1]
Oh sorry, make that 2058
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Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 5:36:55 AM No.212260684
>>212260655
lol, i find it funny that you guys are so desperate to defend the usa online.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 5:44:12 AM No.212260761
>>212255951 (OP)
It's just inflation. The streets of america look like fallout 3 in the east and fallout new vegas in the west
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 5:45:11 AM No.212260773
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>lol, i find it funny that you guys are so desperate to defend the usa online.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 5:45:27 AM No.212260776
>>212257078
>American inflation adjusted wages have gone up by like 25% in 50 years
People are getting paid the same wages they were getting paid the 90s while the price of everything else is up 10-20x
Anonymous South Korea
6/30/2025, 5:48:23 AM No.212260809
>>212260684
H.R. 1157. U.S. literally pays people to spread anti-Chinese propaganda online.
Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 5:54:41 AM No.212260883
>>212260773
yes, I am clearly a russian shill
Anonymous Sweden
6/30/2025, 6:14:23 AM No.212261119
California*
Anonymous Taiwan
6/30/2025, 6:19:54 AM No.212261204
>>212255951 (OP)
America gets hard working beaners
Europe gets lazy Muslims
The EU would be the world super power today if they choose SEA migrants instead of Mudslimes
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 6:22:17 AM No.212261228
other countries are too risk averse
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Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 6:27:54 AM No.212261296
>>212261228
lol
Anonymous Poland
6/30/2025, 7:36:51 AM No.212262232
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>>212255951 (OP)
because pic related
but orangeman wants to stop it for some reason
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:47:26 AM No.212262420
>>212257078
But total compensation has tracked I believe. Healthcare as % of GDP has gone up everywhere as other sectors become less labor-intensive
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:18:47 AM No.212263987
>>212256960
holy fuck the only good argie post
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:21:16 AM No.212264029
>>212257078
Why the fuck would wages match productivity? Fuck off dumbfuck
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:23:17 AM No.212264065
>>212255951 (OP)
Our GDP growth is fueled by the continued suffering and stagnation of the middle class.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:24:07 AM No.212264078
>>212264065
>middle class keeps getting richer
ok retard
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:26:05 AM No.212264115
>>212262232
He can't figure out high quality input goods produce even higher quality goods and services. He's an entertainment man after all.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:27:05 AM No.212264137
>>212264078
>Get 20% raise
>Everything still costs 40% more
Okay retard
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 9:50:54 AM No.212264616
>>212264137
>durr he must be talking about nominal wages even though the truthfulness of my claim is only one google search away
ok retard!
Anonymous Germany
6/30/2025, 9:57:24 AM No.212264736
>>212255951 (OP)
>money printer goes *brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 10:49:38 AM No.212265785
>>212259276
He's a jeeto working for the Saudis (No national has a real job there)