would you live your myth in rishon lezion?

>boring urban shot
if you want to get our (you)s, post some heeby honkers

>>212263590
90% of life in rishon is this

>>212263280 (OP)
No

>Summary of cost of living in Rishon Leziyyon, Israel:
>Rent in Rishon Leziyyon is, on average, 0.2% lower than in Helsinki

>>212264960
cheaper
better weather
quentin tarantino's favorite cinema

but no darude-sandstorm stairs

>>212265008
>Better weather
Dude wtf it's 32°C there right now and it's going to peak at 34°C tomorrow. The mean maximum daily temp is 30.5°C in AUGUST! This poor finn would perish from the Mediterranean sun

>>212263280 (OP)
It is crazy how Israel has like the same or similar GDP per capita to like Sweden and it looks so poor and typical East Euro/Middle Eastern in many aspects

>>212265240
seems better than this
also rishon has a beach, a spaceport, a theme park. what does helsinki have? a bunch of bogs/swamps and the sea

>>212265240
30 starts to be uncomfortable but I would move there for a job

Is Israel East Europeans' Florida?

>>212265342
Florida is much more humid

We have a "Netanya Square" in our city, so I guess Netanya is our sister city in Israel.
It's right in the centre, too, where two historic trade routes through Europe meet.

>>212265299
>1 hour of sunshine per day
Holy based! Finally a place where i wouldn't have to crawl from awning to awning in the street like a parched lizard to avoid being cooked alive by the sun and contracting every skin cancer. No wonder finns are such crackkkas they need every shred of UV light they can get for vitamin D.

>>212265401
underrated city desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GYCcNaW2c

>>212265240
36 where I live, 39 a few days ago, 38 tomorrow. No rain in three weeks. Can't believe we have it worse than Middle Easterners ffs

>>212265470
why does it get so hot in serbia do you live in a heat trap?

here it's mostly comfortable if you get a bit of wind

>>212265401
I live in netanya lol

>>212265470
37° Today, next monday it'll be 42°C. Last time we had any rain where i live was two years ago. That's not a joke btw the sandnigger label is true i only need to step outside to find sand. It could always get worse Serbianon.

>>212265464
Streets are strangely empty for a Friday morning (weekend?) How do these fancy seeming shops at the start keep their doors open if there are so few customers?

>>212265507
Yeah the Dinaric Alps are indeed a heat trap and we get a lot of Saharan sand and dust blowing in these days. If you guys and the Arabs managed your rampant desertification, we'd all be a bit better off.

>>212265464
>>212265511
Very nice. Here's a walk through our city centre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaFNkjXKrGo
However the town was bombed flat during WW2, not a single building in the centre is from before 1945. The really nice parts are the outskirts. There you may still find churches and mansions from the 1600s. Also there are a lot more trees and lawns in the outer districts, and a lot less muslims. I worked at the university on a map project with the land registry office, and from that I know that 63% of the area of my city are parks, forests, lawns or fields. During the industrialization there was a theory in Germany that people who had gardens or at least trees in their streets lived a healthier life. I think they really practiced that in the early 1900s in my town.

>>212265670
i mean most people are at work

>>212263280 (OP)
yuck

>>212265773
Isn't the weekend friday and Saturday? Or do you guys only get one weekend day?

>>212265826
idk what day/hour it is in the video. he livestreams most of his incelwalks but not all it may have been filmed before the upload day

>>212265696
what's this thing? are there plants there usually and they just happen to have died and were removed?

>>212263590

>>212265980
Maybe they just planted them recently

>>212263280 (OP)
looks pretty nice, what's tourism like in Israel? is it a big industry?

Did you attend shahars funeral?

>>212266128
he's still around
he goes to the same cinema as tarantino rumours are they met up a couple of times and tarantino might cast him

>>212265980
Actually I don't know. It looks like brown or gray grass. I know where that is, so I know the plants would only have about 20cm of earth beneath them. That's not nearly enough to retain water in the summer. Summers get very hot here, today it will be 30°C, and 38°C on wednesday.
That's why I said it's nicer in the outskirts. There is actual soil there and plants with longer roots can survive. That square from your picture is above an underground train line, the blue "U" sign in the picture points to the nearest entrance.

>>212266107
We don’t get loads of tourists like other countries, they also won’t visit rishon lol. more pilgrims and such. Although the war and raising costs have driven foreign tourism out of israel

>>212265980
Actually watching that video and seeing the Decathlon shop - that installation may be on or next to the Netanya Square!

This aerial photo is older, so there is a round grass patch that is now grey in the video. You can see the old tram tracks - the tram now runs underground. Netanya Square is a little to the south right where the Hansa Street and the Hellweg meet. It's probably the most ancient part of the town. The Hansa Street used to run from Frankfurt to Hamburg, and the Hellweg from Cologne to Königsberg. Today we have the A1 and A2 motorways in their place, and their crossing is a few kilometers away nowadays.

>>212266446
they planted flowers there the video was probably from before that.
do they all die each winter tho so they have to re plant new ones?

>>212266632
>do they all die each winter tho so they have to re plant new ones?
No. We haven't really had a cold winter for years now. Summers are much worse. I guess those plants would have to be watered daily, and they probably can't pay the city workers to do that. We have a lot of foreigners and welfare is paid by the city, so streets or roofs in schools don't get repaired to make up for the welfare money.

Btw. it didn't use to be that way. I'm old, and I remember winters with months of snow and summers where we had 2 or 3 days when it got 27°C hot. You could count the number of days in a year when it was warm enough to leave the house in a T shirt. Unfortunately, global warming is very real.

>>212266772
>I guess those plants would have to be watered daily, and they probably can't pay the city workers to do that.
isnt that shit automated? it is here
also i thought that area was much colder this seems pretty warm. ive only been there during summer for like 1 day (koln)

>>212263280 (OP)
Only in Herzliya

>>212266874
>ive only been there during summer for like 1 day (koln)
I haven't been there in a long time. I think it was with my class in school. The bus ride was really long, like I think 3 hours. (I lived in Münster 70km north of Dortmund when I was in school.) The cathedral was closed on the day we were there. Which is a pity, because they have the coffins of the Three Wise Men in it that visited Jesus when he was born according to legend. We went to another, older church from Roman times and got told about archaeological digs. Also there's a museum in cologne where you can see a Roman altar that some cologne citizen actually found when he dug in his own cellar. And we went shopping. Cologne's "Hohe Straße" (High Street) is Germany's busiest shopping mile, and my town of Dortmund's Hellweg is second after that.

However, city centres here are a heat trap in summer. Best thing you can do on a summer day is find the nearest park (they're in the outskirts of town) and buy an ice cream.

>>212265464
So I finally finished the whole video. Very nice, I like it a lot.
Impressions:
There's a lot more green than I would have thought would be in a middle eastern country.
So many cats! And so many statues!
The walkways are sometimes narrow, but I may have been spoilt by the ones in my own town.
Also do blue and white curbstones mean you can park your car there and red and white means parking is forbidden?

>>212267456
blue = paid parking (usually only paid during rush hours and free otherwise, price changes in every place but you just turn on an app and it handles everything)
red is no parking so the car in op is breaking the law thats a 250 shekel fine

also the walkways there are fairly wide by israeli standards i guess our city designs are more cramped that way

i matched with someone from there on 23andme but i have no jewish ancestry

>>212267905
> have no jewish ancestry
they probably dont as well

>>212267905
how did you match 2000km away, isnt it geofenced to a radius around you?

>>212267887
>paid parking
We have that, too, but there's usually a sign on a post on those streets, and a machine where you can put money into it and depending on how much money you fed it it spits out a ticked for so-and-so long that you then take and put on the dashboard.
We also have apps, but they're different for every city and fraudsters have been putting stickers with their own QR codes everywhere recently. You scan the QR code, you pay the fraudster instead of the city, your car isn't legally parked then and you get a parking ticket on top of that.

So because of that I still carry 1-euro and 50-cents coins with me when I have to park somewhere. Parking fees vary and are around 2 euros to 2.50 per hour (8 - 10 shkalim) in the city centre.

>>212263280 (OP)
Looks like Italy

>>212263280 (OP)
I would live there with my state mandated ashkenazi (east european) gf

>>212265401
Netanya is french jewish owned

>>212268331
Sacre bleu!

>>212268479
I will retire there with my (future) sephardic wife

>>212268118
its more standardized here, there's more than one app and each works in every city and paid parking lot, it detects where you are by the gps and pays to the correct municipality/lot operator automatically and they have your car number so their inspectors know you're paying.basically park anywhere in the country, press 1 button and you're fine it. i think the same app also works in paying for all public transport and toll roads but i havent used that

>>212268685
That's how it should be! Let me tell you about how things are here. I needed a monthly pass for bus and underground. First thing I noticed is that they stopped selling those. They now have the "Deutschlandticket" that costs 58 euros and is valid almost everywhere in Germany. I downloaded the app of my local municipal bus operator and it told me the ticket was not available this month, I could buy one for next month. Then I downloaded the app of the transport conglomerate my city is a part of. Registered myself, provided PayPal data, everything - and the app told me I needed a third app, the ticket app from my municipal bus operator. Installed that, registered myself again, provided PayPal data once more, and I finally got the ticket on my smartphone. Only 3 apps and 2 complete registering runs with password and email and click confirmation link in the email and enter the password again.
I think my old parents would not have been able to do all of that.
Every town, every municipality, every office of those municipalities does their own shit. Because if services were unified, you'd have a lot of paid positions that would suddenly be superfluous and people would get fired or retired.

>>212268855
buses are regulated here as in the company needs a license to run a given line and it lasts like ~6 years and i think theyre partially subsidized. if a company wants to win a public tender to run a given bus line they get priority if they have newer,better buses and if theyre integrated better with national standards (like a central system for ticketing for all buses,trains...) so if a company doesnt do that they lose lines to ones who do.

i do think our system is over regulated and has disadvantages. for example the government subsidy is paid per kg driven so they're incentivised to run very long bus lines with few stops and often the drivers rush, barely give you time to get in at the stop and a very common complaint is buses not stopping for a station if you dont make it crystal clear to the driver you wanna get on, if you lazily and slowly get up for your bus the driver might just assume you're not getting up for it and keep going.

for the most part it works even if imo it should be more laissez faire

>>212269277
That is indeed a different system. Most of our buses are run by the cities themselves. Sometimes like in my city the part that operates the buses, electricity, water, gas, rubbish removal gets so big that it's split up in independent companies that are then hired by the city. Sometimes they don't have enough buses or drivers and then they hire buses and drivers from tour companies that usually drive tourists in travel coaches to their holidays.

I don't know, but I think in principal they have to offer those jobs for additional buses to all bus companies in Europe. In practice what I see is companies from two towns over. I don't know if corruption is involved or if it's simply that those buses must get to my city, and if a company from Portugal said "we want to do it", it wouldn't be profitable for them to move their buses and drivers all across Europe.

We have S-Bahn (train-like, fewer stops but stops in different cities), U-Bahn (tram, underground in the center and district centers, over ground where possible), bus, and H-Bahn (suspended monorail at our university). Stations and schedules are checked every 10 years or so. Inspectors ride with the buses, trams and trains and count who enters or steps off at what time at every stop. This determines if the stops are still needed, if the invervals on the schedules need to be thinned out, or if the lines have to run on other streets.

>>212263280 (OP)
This looks so much like Bulgaria lol

>>212269277
shut up prag

>>212269681
>. Inspectors ride with the buses, trams and trains and count who enters or steps off at what time at every stop. This determines if the stops are still needed, if the invervals on the schedules need to be thinned out, or if the lines have to run on other streets.
kek this is so much easier when its dona via app since you literally have metadata on every stop automatically (atleast how many people get on there not necessarily how many get off there)

that monorail thing is so cool the closest thing we have is cable car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMpoFzNPy9U
(basically goes from the train station on the coast to the 2 universities on the mountain

>>212269887
>this is so much easier when its dona via app
Yes, some people have an app, but there are also tickets with a built-in chip that is read via RFID in the front of the bus, we still have paper tickets, and we have tickets on smatphones that don't need a connection or mobile internet, a picture of a QR code is enough.

>Haifa
I remembered there was a mountain there because I once watched a TV segment about weird cults and sects and one of them (Baha'i?) has an impressive garden on a moutain slope in Haifa. I think they want to construct cable cars in Wuppertal and in Cologne also. The Wuppertal one is meant to be practical (their university is on a hilltop), I heard the one in Cologne is mainly for tourists.

Also the Technion is in Haifa and I think (I may be wrong) I read that they have developed a method of watering there for agriculture that is very efficient and also suited for hot climates as the water drops from punctured hoses and not much evaporates in the heat.

>>212270286
>very efficient and also suited for hot climates as the water drops from punctured hoses and not much evaporates in the heat.
thats literally the most straightforward solution for watering shit. just holes in regular pipes and a water valve on a daily timer i have one in my yard

>>212270460
>thats literally the most straightforward solution
Yes, maybe. There aren't many positive news items from your country that reach us here in northwestern Europe. The one about the watering method was one of that. Other than that the news are full of rocket attacks or terrorists stabbing/shooting/running people over.

>>212269681
>>212269277
Man it seems really interesting to have an actual public transportation system. Here in my country there is no such thing other than trains (all of them are derelict obsolete things from the 80s except for Talgo trains which very few people use), and metro lines in Cairo and Cairo only. Some states like Asyut try to subsidize independent bus companies but they really suck. Most of our "public" transport is just Independent microbus drivers that get varying fuel subsides if they register their license with the government but the government neither controls their routes nor prices and there's 0 regulation on it other than whatever demand the drivers choose to fulfill. Good luck figuring the system out if you're a foreigner or even if you're just from a different governate because there's no documentation or regulation imposed on the system. It's not all bad though it works fine if you're a bit patient and don't mind inconvenience.

>>212270952
like 1/10th of your economy is tourism, its insane that your country is so hostile to tourists and makes things so complicated and hard given that fact.

i would have expected more top-down rules/regulations of public transport. you could literally just hire the companies that do ours and copy our system many countries are doing exactly that like australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdlWvOhS6t8

>>212270952
I've heard very bad things about traffic in Cairo. It's apparently so bad that your government is building a new capital in the desert east of Cairo. Also you have something ... I don't know what it's called, but it's mini buses that are somewhere in between taxis and regular buses. For 6 or 7 passengers.

In my country the service and the public transport network depends on where you live. I live in the Ruhrgebiet, the former industrial heart of Germany. We have a very good network here. (Even though often buses run late, trains are cancelled, you miss your connection etc.) Out in the country you may have to walk 2 or 3 kilometers to the nearest bus stop and the bus only stops there twice a day and never on a saturday or sunday. There are many places where you still need a car, or at least a bicycle or moped.

>>212271115
I once was in Tunisia before the "Arab spring", and back then taxi and bus prices were fixed and regulated (+ subsidized) by the state. One night I was sent to the pharmacy to pick up medicine for a doctor, because some 20 people had fallen ill in my hotel. I took a taxi and it was very affordable. Also the people were very nice there.

>>212263280 (OP)
What does the memorial say?
I think I can make out "sons and daughter of Rishon leZion" and "Israel".
Is it a war memorial?
We had a lot of those after WW1, paid for by collections among normal citizens. I don't know where they all went, they all seem to have diasppeared.

>>212271403
>לזכר בנות ובני ראשון לציון שנפלו במערכות ישראל
its a memorial for the soldiers of the city, every city has one.

>>212270460
based, i have one of those in my garden too, it saves so much work
its a pain in the ass to setup each year tho

>>212271597
So I guessed correctly. We don't have those, too depressing, too embarrassing. What we have is monuments to the victims of the last war. This here is pretty cool, it's where the old synagogue used to stand, a collection of weirdly bent yellow tubes. If you stand in the correct place, you can see a Star of David. There used to be a very nice little park next to it, but 2(?) years ago they bulldozed the park and it is now a supermarket parking lot. (With the votes of the Green Party and the Social Democrats.)

>>212271840
the only thing i do is turn the pump off when the rain season starts and turn it back on when it ends other than that it's 0 maintenance (and that is via bluetooth from my phone with the pump's app)

has a hole get clogged once but that's it

>>212272076
>the rain season
I want a rain season in my country.

>>212272173
there's ~6 months a year with basically 0 rain

>>212272076
cant do that here, we have snow and freezing weather so the hose wears down, the computer thingy that controls the timers gets fucked, etc
gotta set them up every spring again
but it still saves so much pain in the ass from watering shit everyday during the hot summer

>>212263280 (OP)
No it would be too hot and I'd die also I'm not Jewish

>>212272359
We're getting there, but I don't like it. I've seen them cut down 6 old trees in my street. They didn't get enough water in the summer, and when they're dead, they're a risk in every spring or autumn storm.

>>212272359
>>212272472
Cloudless, 31°C and still climbing. Peak temperature between 16.00 and 18.00 central european summer time (UTC+02:00).
Our houses are built to keep the warmth in, not to keep the heat out.

>>212272737
insulation works both ways cool the inside and it stays cool

>>212272737
>Our houses are built to keep the warmth in, not to keep the heat out
t. 80IQ

You have no fucking idea how much this reddit turbonormgroid statement bothers me. I used to work with insulation, and the amount of normgroids even in Serbia who believe it makes summer heat worse is just.... astounding.

>>212273248
>>212273322
Then my roof probably doesn't have insulation. Or not enough. It's a tiled roof that was converted to a mini apartment during the housing crisis of the 1980s.

>>212273377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAaecJ7UxvE
soon we'll have coating that cools your home and car when exposed to sunlight
iranian terrorists tried to destroy this research but soon it will be ubiquitous globally. during winter you just cover it up with something and the cooling stops.

>>212273530
I want that!

But I know it will take a few years to perfect and market it.
I remember meeting an Israeli technician at a computer and electronics fair in my town many years ago. He was trying to sell USB storage, like USB sticks or external harddrives. (An Israeli invention.) I thought nothing of it back then, because it was when USB 1.1 was the most advanced standard and I knew that would be far too slow. But look at the world now - USB sticks are everywhere and have replaced floppy discs and CDs as universal storage medium.