This is the greatest food invention of the 20th century, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>212263805 (OP)
looks like shit

>>212263805 (OP)
MSG is pretty based, yeah

>>212263805 (OP)
>defined "the yummy taste", and making the non-Japanese seethe for next 100 years
Truly the invention of the century

MSG = Makes Shit Good

>>212263863
>>212263805 (OP)
>flags
My umami historical samurai meiji edo period flavour is just a carcinogenic chemical invented in a lava in the 1940s

>>212263900
Okay burandon

>>212263919
>>212263943
To be fair, you need to have a high IQ to recognize Umami.

>Dr. Kikunae Ikeda, the creater of Ajinomoto, in 1912

>"An attentive taster will find … something common in the complicated taste of asparagus, tomato, cheese, and meat, which is quite peculiar and cannot be classified under any of the four basic tastes, sweet, sour, salty and bitter. It is usually so faint and overshadowed by other stronger tastes, that it is often difficult to recognize it unless the attention is specially directed towards it."

>>212263805 (OP)
what's the right dosage tho

>>212263959
Kikunae's insight was truly ahead of its time. His quote really highlights how Umami can be subtle, which is why it took so long to be scientifically identified and appreciated globally. It’s almost like a "taste IQ" you have to consciously tune in to detect that depth.

>>212263805 (OP)
I throw a bit into the rice cooker when it cooks and the stir once halfway through. Makes the best shit.

>>212263805 (OP)
MSG gives you neurological problems when you consume it

Many scientific studies on this

>>212263805 (OP)
this shit is in every other frito lay chip product you can find in the grocery aisle

>>212264123
The anti-MSG hysteria was pure xenophobia. MSG was unfairly demonized in the West. No scientific evidence ever proved it was harmful in normal amounts. Japanese stuff are always demonized in the lower world because too superior and require a high IQ to understand.

>>212264251
No I mean recent studies

>>212264237
Ajinomoto makes everything taste better, soups, snacks, instant noodles, sauces. You know why your Doritos seem unreasonably craveable? That's often Umami doing its job.

>>212263805 (OP)
>put chemical shit on food

american tier

>>212263805 (OP)
Mmm, I have mixed feelings, it's not so great when companies and some restaurants abuse its usage

>>212264331
WHAT'S THE RIGHT DOSAGE

>>212264339
It’s a perfect example of food science done right. Umami was born from scientific curiosity, and it bridged traditional Japanese knowledge with modern chemistry.

>>212264381
>guys, we invented stuff that occurs naturally in tomatoes and cheese!
>hail unit 731!

>>212264339
Sodium chloride and dihydrogen monoxide are le bad, right?

>>212264417
Zoomers are simping for Unit 731 these days.

>>212263967
>>212264368
quantum satis

>>212263805 (OP)
Agreed
Ajinomoto's expansion into the peninsula was a boon from 內地 that even the far left could not argue with, thank you goshujin-sama

>>212264368
for the right amount of cancer use 10g per recipe

>>212264483
i ve heard countless of people complain about plastic american breads, plastic cheese and E perservatives but the moment someone mentions anything bad about ajinomofo the discord troony army comes out to accuse them about anti-asianism

>>212265966
bodied that freak

What exactly do you use it on? I want to experience umami

>>212266139
it tastes like salt and nothingness if you want to enjoy it just serve in the greek army, also 90% of gayreek housewives use this little cubes of doom as well which is just concentrated msg

umami is sort for=everything will taste the same regardless of ingredients

>>212266265
Umami mindbroke the non-Japanese. It's completely a superior concept to make food better. You should accept the defeat already.

>>212266139
TKG is a great introduction to the concept of Umami. Just adding Ajinomoto makes it delicious and addictive. With one experience, you will understand what Umami is all about.

>>212266339
why then do all your shitty ramen noodles with the msg powder taste exactly the same?? umami is a pseudoscientific concept rooted in positive orientalism, pseudomysticism and promulgated by frauds like pic rel, anatolian ottoman and eastern mediterranean cuisines spent centuries and waged wars experimenting with spice and hundreds of different dried herbs and you think YOU THE MERE BUGMAN RAW FISH AND GUTTER OIL EATER CAN CHALLENGE OUR EXPERTISE? with your soy beans and lab created powder? SUCH INSOLENCE AND DELUSION

>>212266477
To have quality raw fish, you need skilled fishermen, advanced freezing technology. Quality fish is cleaned and frozen within hours of the catch. Only first-world countries like Japan can deliver something like this. Unfortunately, your country not.

Sodium Green

Japan is always leading in food tech. Kanikama is a prime example, which genuinely is a fascinating case of food innovation. This makes it a standout example of how present-day food technology transforms traditional culinary concepts.

>>212263919
t. malakas

>>212263805 (OP)
MSG is so fucking good! It makes any dish savoury. Fuck those retards who cooked up some shit study to propagandize fear against this invention.

>>212263959
I don't feel it in tomatoes

>>212264522
fascinating how today's twitter would make /pol/ from 5 years ago blush

>>212268104
I'll umami your tomato, if you catch my drift

I have to cycle 18 km just to buy this.
It's worth it.

>>212263805 (OP)
Idk why but this stuff tastes better when its produced in third world countries, Ive tried the one from Cambodia and its taste was pretty richer than original Japanese one

>>212268581
>cycle 18 km
Just drive you dumb hippie.

>>212269152
I'm not allowed to drive.
I have epilepsy and even on meds I have daily micro-seizures and shakes.

>>212269319
Shouldn't it prevent you to ride a bicycle too?

>>212269441
Prevent from

>>212269485
Riding

>>212269319
Damn that sucks bro, and yeah in this case I reverse my stance and agree with José. Go full dumb hippie and just don't use any vehicles.

MSG + more.

>>212269441
>>212269485
No, there's no laws against me cycling with a medical condition.
It's also legal to cycle drunk here.

>>212268104
You have to cook them for a long time

>>212269550
I'll just bike.
I've fallen into the ditch many times but I don't go fast so doesn't matter.

>>212270028
>swedes bike from their log cabin down their magical forest path to go to the shops
it's not fair

>>212270253
Just a normal rural house, not a log cabin.

>>212268104
and you wont, E621 is an artificial addictive and carcinogenic lab created flavouring, the whole umami campaign is based on a pseudoscientific and verbalistic term that aims to confuse E621 with naturally occurring complex flavours resulting from maillard reaction or fermentation. It started by paid american influencers pretending to be leftists concerned about anti-asian racism, every single snack and frozen product has tons of it hence why everyone is rushing to defend it online unlike plastic american bread plastic cheese and the much less dangerous food dyes

>>212263805 (OP)
why were you pretending for so long that it made you tired?

>>212263943
why does he hate the japanese so much anyway?

>>212270786
Hoahm, i dont believe failed island jew

>>212263805 (OP)
もっと面白いスレ立てろよ

>>212271280
keep eating them noodles i hope its not metastatic

>>212270786
>addictive and carcinogenic
[citation needed]

>verbalistic term that aims to confuse E621 with naturally occurring complex flavours resulting from maillard reaction or fermentation.
Wtf are you talking about. It's literally same glutamate. It doesn't matter for your body if it's a result of a reaction in a vet or inside a cell. It's the same chemical at the end.

>>212272835
okay i suggest you try to eat parmezan or tomatoes and insta noodles which are just nothing but msg and water if you think the taste is the same then i suggest some taste buds transplant or smth

ps: the burden of proof is ineverted when it comes to additives and pharmaceutical products THEY have to prove it is not carcinogenic(its been corroborated several times thats its addictive hence more dangerous than salt)

>>212272955
>you think the taste is the same
[citation needed]

>>212272977
empiricism never hurt anyone there isn othingm ore artificial tasting than buillon cubes and the abominable noodle liquid

>>212273141
Strawman fallacy is just a basic, dishonest lie. I never said what you claimed I did, therefore all these fancy words are just trying to bullshit your way through. You are full of shit.

>>212272025
断る。これ考えられなく楽な仕事だぞ

4chan: quarrel about anything
also >>>/ck/

>>212274223
you get used to it eventually, or you don’t and go mad. one or the other

>>212273998
RAISING THE GOALPOSTS FALLACY ALERT WEWOOO WEWOOOOO

didnt or didnt you claim, and i quote:
>"its literally the same glutamate,it doesn't matter for your body f it's a result of a reaction in a vet or inside a cell. It's the same chemical at the end"

same chemical but the artificial one tastes like shit and the natural occurring one tastes great???? isnt the sense of taste part of a bodily reaction???? why does my body, personally, react different to each? why do i want to puke when eating japanese insta ramen or a premade tomato sauce but not when eating homemade tomato sauce or parmigiano reggiano?

>>212274223
i ve obliterated ck with facts and logic before every post about ajinomoto on there is mine

I can suggest an equation that has the potential to impact the future:

MSG + AI

This equation combines famous chemical compound MSG, which relates MONO (M) to SODIUM (S) and GLUTAMATE (G), with the addition of AI (Artificial Intelligence). By including AI in the equation, it symbolises the increasing role of artificial intelligence in shaping and transforming our future. This equation highlights the potential for AI to unlock new forms offlavor, enhance the umami, and revolutionize various fields such as cooking, seasoning, and overall taste.

>>212274175
wtf. you aren't japanese as others say.

>>212274850
>didnt or didnt you claim, and i quote:
>>"its literally the same glutamate,it doesn't matter for your body f it's a result of a reaction in a vet or inside a cell. It's the same chemical at the end"
Yup. I said that it doesn't matter for your organism where did it got the glutamate from. I haven't claimed anything about parmezan, tomatoes and instant ramen tasting the same.

>the artificial one tastes like shit and the natural occurring one tastes great
[citation needed]

>why does my body, personally, react different to each
I genuinely doubt you are capable of extracting glutamate from tomatoes or parmesan. So my answer is that you probably fucked up your experiment.

>why do i want to puke when eating japanese insta ramen
This can be a symptom of myriad various gastrointestinal problems. Contact a local doctor and ask him to run some tests for allergies, intolerances, etc. Glutamate is only one of various different substances you find in food and it's not exclusive to these two you listed.

>>212275180
ﾆｬﾘ

>>212277848
you need citation and "objective" proof for taste and qualia?????? someone missed out on the dead ends of the great phenomenalists including kant

bruh i just entered itt and the youtube already recommended me this