Why did they fail?

The USA succeeded, why didn't they triumph too?

USA - anglo colonizers, ubermensch germanic stock, no mixing with natives and negro slaves
Brazil - portuguese colonizers, foul moorish stock, mass mixing with natives and negro slaves

>>212287338
pretty much this
everything else is cope

>>212287268 (OP)
B-but they build planes !

they okey, managed to secure some invesments

if brazil failed then I want my country to fail too

Also, Brazil kinda sucks for colonizing besides the coast, it was further away from most european immigrats than america, and it didn't have a "california" or "mormons" to help extend its state influence beyond the east.

>>212287268 (OP)
climate, resource curse, instability

>>212287268 (OP)
Why would you expect us to succeed just because the US did?
>>212287440
You're getting there, don't worry

>>212287618
You started the same way and your country is very large.

>>212287732
>You started the same way
This is not true at all

cia o algo

How do you know we failed? Have you ever spent time here in Brasil? The numbers you see on the web means nothing.

>>212287268 (OP)
>failed
you dont know what that means
also
>USA
>successful
top kek

>>212287268 (OP)
>t. completely ignorant of world's history and geopolitics
i'm not gonna spoonfeed retards

>>212287338
"anglos" are not germanic

>>212287268 (OP)
>The USA succeeded
Their golden age was right after Europe decided to commit suicide with two world wars and USA simply filled the gap.
Now they are decaying, and someone else will take the spotlight.

>>212290409
Spoiler: "someone else" will just be USA again

>>212287268 (OP)
Fail in what?

I have sex and I enjoy coconut water
I don't need anything else.
I deny your concepts of success

>>212290409

>>212290464
Fail at inventing the airplane.

Imagine being a incel in brasil. How even lmao

>>212287268 (OP)
Brazil is a large plantation set to service a small elite of landowners. In this sense it's been undeniably successful.

Every attempt to overcome this original sin has been a failure. Brazil has never surpassed social divisions, has never democratized access to land, failed to properly industrialize, failed to root out corruption and patrimonialism, failed to become the great power it should have been.

The prime cause, but not the only one, of all this tragedy is that the Brazilian elites are extraordinarily perverse, treasonous and often degenerate. Only a handful of statesmen have ever put their personal inerests aside in order to improve the country, and many of them were scorned and died in poverty.

The Brazilian elite has no enduring design for the country and the part of it that is capable of reading and thinking limits itself to following trends from Europe and the US in an automatic fashion, without trying to adapt them to a Brazilian environment. They're a scum.

>>212291748
yea but why wasn't the US elite always like ours?
maybe something about having a different culture peharps?

>>212291841
The Puritans who settled New England for once were among the most highly educated people in the world. In other regions outside the south the early settlers constituted a society of small landowners with a relatively democratic political culture. One of the early precedents of modern constitutions were the charters that the settlers of the Thirteen Colonies established among themselves. The WASP elite had no lack of inspired people willing to serve the nation. Many of them voluntarily fought in the Civil War, WWI and WWII, while the Brazilian elite sent their slaves instead to fight in the Plate. On top of that the WASPs never had the type of hegemonic power exercised by the Brazilian elite over other classes, not even in the American South. Just remember that in Brazil one family alone (Garcia d'Ávila) had holdings with a combined size larger than Portual itself.

>>212290239
>He doesn't know

>>212287268 (OP)
they didn't manifest destiny

>>212287479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandeirantes

>>212290239
Lol wat.

>>212290409
No. America was already the world's leading industrial power in the late XIX century

>>212290493
If God wanted us to fly he would give us wings

>>212291841
In the south they were. In the north however the very nature of the land made these plantations impossible.

Caribbean islands settled by the english are all poor as well

>>212290148
USA is the world's sole hegemon. Brazil peddles mineral fuels, soybeans and sugar to the highest bidder.

We are not the same

>>212294157
>We are not the same
Not yet

Calling Brazil a "portuguese colony" is confusing.
It is not Portuguese based on the matrix of the settlers, but of ownership.
Portugal during that period had 2 million population at maximum.
During that period, Portugal imported 4 million western africans into Brazil.
Even if EVERY SINGLE Portuguese in the world migrated into Brazil, it would still be a series of colonies of western africans.
Brazil is more comparable to the southern states of the US than comparable to the entirety of the USA.

The USA had two origins of settlers. European migration and slaver/slaves.
The government of the USA originates in European migration mostly, not slaver/slaves. Their independence was fought for and by the people.

By contrast Brazil was (and to some extent still is) an assemblage of plantation owners and slaves. These owners of property were the ones driving Brazilian independence, and quickly came to blows with their own "emperors" who they only needed for a legitimate claim for an independent state. But when it quickly became apparent that monarchs weren't needed, they did away with both of their "emperors" very fast. The sins of their "emperors" was nothing more than trying to turn Brazil into an actual country (both were Frenchboos), instead of just a big plantation.

Now imagine if the south and seceded, what kind of country would it be? Just look at it now for inspiration.

>>212294436
It was in fact a big plantation but also a settlement colony, it really depends on each part of the country we are taking into consideration, São Paulo at that time was famously known for being self sustaining and having a bad climate for sugarcane, but still it thrived.

>>212290409
>Their golden age was right after Europe decided to commit suicide with two world wars and USA simply filled the gap.
This is factually incorrect and cope used by Europeans.

>>212287268 (OP)
Neocolonialism. Corporate America basically colonised the rest of the planet first and the rest is history.
It’s funny hmm, you frenchoid fucks just happened to be born at the side where American taxpayers allowed u a piece of the pie, yet you feel the need to make fun of Brazil, fucking shithead. Good riddance becoming a neo Islamic state.

>>212294436
>It is not Portuguese based on the matrix of the settlers, but of ownership.
But that's what a colony usually is