Was Jōmon and Emishi influence the key to Yamato/Wajin success?

>>212313289 (OP)

not a jap...but..

Yamato/Wajin

It's literally Yayoi.

Shogun means a general who conquers Emishi.

>>212313289 (OP)
I believe so.
although modern japanese are only around 10~15% Jomon, their paternal lineages are more than 30% Jomon.
It implies Jomons were quite successful and influential once they got integrated into the Yamato society.

>>212313643
how are you coping with the fact that original koreans were tungusic and modern day koreans are genetically purer japanese than japanese themselves since mumun culture were japonic speakers who got linguistically assimilated, but genetically remained the same

>>212313643
That's true. A lot of Japanese people today (Including Japanese Royal Family) have Haplogroup D as their paternal lineage.

>>212313747
Tungusic people migrated from Lake Baikal. Koreans have more words in common with the Nivkh.

>>212313747
The Koreans were mixed with the people of northeastern China, and the Japanese were mixed with the Jomon people.

I don't know which one is closer to the original.

>>212313739
I ask because I have thought about a storyboard where a Planet was seeded with Ainu, Udmurts and Chuvashes without their knowledge by Aliens who also seeded it with North Eurasian Fauna and Flora.

>>212313947
>people of northeastern China
people of northeastern china are a mix of yellow river farmers (original chinese) who immigrated there during chinese imperial expansion and of mumun culture japonic speakers who are indigenous to what is today korea, liaoning, shandong and hebei
yemaek (ancient koreanic speakers) are originally from tungusia, from where they displaced and assimilated the original japonic speakers of what is today korea, before being displaced by the proto-manchu in their oirignal homeland north of yalu river

>>212314011
lmao

>>212314141
Eventually they merged becoming a Settled Bee-Keeping people who also subsist on Fishing.

>>212313289 (OP)
>>212313643
The samurai caste was drawn from the Emishi. Similar to the Xianbei and Sogdians in China, the Mamluks amongst Muslims and the Germanics amongst Romans, the conquered barbarians were assimilated into the army and from there they started exerting power and influence.

>>212314991
Japan was over in 1877.

They really went from this...

Jomons were glorified ice papuans/abo, as much as i hate gooks you gotta give them credit for making japan the country they are now.

To this!

>>212315469
I AM ASPIRATIONALLY ICE PAPUAN/ABO!

>>212314991
Japan's ruling class is a yayoi, both in the past and in the present. The conquered barbarians were not treated like human beings, and Japanese officials discriminated against and despised them. They had no power, neither militarily nor socially.

I really don't fucking understand why filthy baka gaijin are so prone to obsessing over yayoi/jomon and outright making shit up about them

>>212315472
He can't even wear a belt properly

>>212315546
I somehow got a sense that whites who are obsessed with jomons are just in denial that people least related to them can be very succcesful

>>212315709
Not really a Jomon Fan. More of a Ainuphile, also a major Chuvashophile and Udmurtophile.

>>212315636
Owari Da, Desu!

>>212315609
The Japanese wanted to prove that they were different from the Korean and Chinese.

So they decide to use Jomon.
In the past, they discriminated against and despised them as barbarians.
Now they say Jomon is something special and like a Japanese character.


This yayoi/jomon comparison is starting to be believed by stupid weebs

>>212315809
Ainus are related to nivkh and proto-austronesian, nothing to do with udmurts and chuvash. Goddamn koreans and mongols are more related to them than ainus.

>>212315910
I know. I just like all three.

>>212313289 (OP)
Jomon/Emishi is not a single race, but various groups of people lived primitive lived before Yayoi arrived.

It was like England before Norman conquest.
They were Koranics, Manchus, Ainus and Wa japs that spoke a branch of the japonic language.

>>212315898
>Now they say Jomon is something special and like a Japanese character.
I've never seen a single Jap say this in my life
Nobody thinks about them at all there, it's only gaijin who obsess over this shit. Talking to a Jap about them is like talking to the average European about the Goths in Iberia or some shit, the most you'll get from them is "oh yeah I guess something like that must have happened"

>>212316004
I know it's true the Matagi are linked to the Emishi.

>>212313289 (OP)
I'm a history fag and a huge weeaboo. The biggest key to their success is they're faraway island which made it hard for Western powers to invade. We never had any direct colonization attempt unlike in China and India. And we also shared with them a bunch of tech as did China

It was the original Yayois of China and not Japan that invented the compass, paper, gun powder, movable type printing, cast iron, silk production, vaccines, porcelain, fishing reel, seismograph, iron ploughshare, paper money, alcohol brewing, blast furnace, trebuchet, gas lighting, well drilling, oil refining, drums, soccer, color printing, bombs, water wheel, rotary based vertical flight, wheelbarrow, umbrellas, crossbow, playing cards, tea cultivation, kites, co-fusion steel process, bristle toothbrush, meritocratic system, ink and brush painting, pound lock, rockets, etc.

Jomons have Austronesian DNA and have the lowest IQ in Japan. Look up the Jomon period before Sinicization and China giving them civilization via Korean migration. Jomons are also shorter than Yayois, it's why Koreans are taller than the Japanese to this day

1. The fossil evidence shows that the Yayoi people were 5–8 cm (2–3 in.) taller than the Jomon.
2. Their race mixing lowered the height of the Yayoi people.
3. Modern-day Koreans are about 3 cm (1.2 in.) taller than the Japanese.

Jomon IQ is 95, Ainu is 97, Yayoi is 108. The most important people are Yayoi which include prime minsters and businessmen of companies like Sony, Nintendo, Toyota

Ainu are the last descedents of the Jomon people sadly have the highest rate of poverty in japan. They are basically Japan's racial underclass. They used to be put in zoos before. "Ainu" sounds similar to "Ah, dog" in Japanese. The Korean colonizers sometimes even treated the Jomon males as bushmeat
https://youtu.be/0sGNkT3QS98 [Embed]

>>212316108
Who do you think spread this picture?

No foreigner makes this stupid show

>>212316231
Another important component is the period of Rangaku.

Once China's isolationist policy and limited engagement with the outside world and with it, the exchange of ideas, caused them technological stagnation, Europe after the middle age embraced the ideas and inventions.Mmany regions in the world including China as well as the islamic world that had made advancements in medicine, mathematics, astronomy, and engineering which were then transmitted to through Spain, Sicily, and the Crusades. For instance, Europe adopted the decimal system, Arabic numerals and integrated Algebra into their mathematics. Islamic mathematicians also developed spherical trigonometry, which was essential for astronomy and navigation.

With Japan, starting in the late 17th century, they had roughly 50 years of peace with a colonial power (dutch) that willingly shared everything, transmitting the knowledge of industrial and scientific revolution that was occurring in europe. in the 17th and 18th centuries, the dutch were the most economically wealthy and scientifically advanced of all european nations, which put them in a privileged position to transfer western knowledge to japan. the japanese purchased and translated scientific books from the dutch, obtained from them western curiosities and manufactures (such as clocks, medical instruments, celestial and terrestrial globes, maps, plant seeds), and received demonstrations of Western innovations, such as the demonstrations of electric phenomena, and the flight of a hot air balloon in the early 19th century. This led them to their industrialization in the late 1800s and they went on to surpass China. By that time, China was going through the opium wars and civil wars and then eventually partial colonization by Japan and other countries..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangaku

>>212316231
But Japan was way more successful than Korea... I'm wondering if the Yamato-Emishi/Ainu combo was a superior one rather than being purely one or the other?

>>212316418
One can argue China was purposely held back technologically by the Manchu overlords.

>>212316442
That was only after Japan got tech from us and then went on to BTFO korea.

First there was an East (China) to West tech transmission and concurrently a Middle East to tech tranmission to the West, and then we innovated those tech and industrialized and gave tech to Japan who we didn't try to colonize. They ended up industrializing and went after Korea and would be ahead of Korea for over a century until Korea got tech in the 1960s and 1970s. Now Korea's wages and GDP per capita is higher than Japan and they make better chips and phones

>>212316738
But only South Korea which has a lot of security funding.

Most of that Jomon paternal admixture took place on the Korean Peninsula, delusional faggot Takeshi with a proxy, before that a Hungarian flag?

>>212317454
I need proof of this... Interesting if true!

>>212315566
That's wrong, subjugated Emishi clan were integrated entirely in the system

The northern Fujiwara is the prime example of integrating Emishi in your rule

>>212316231
>>212316738
Hello Ching-Chong nip-nong

>>212313739
A lot of them were probably assimilated into the warrior caste that would develop in Japan. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of samurai had more "local" origins compared to the greater population.

>>212315469
There no papua spectrum on that graph

The real truth and fact of the matter is that Han Chinese are naturally bred to be genetic psychopaths and are angry for what happened 100 years ago more psychopathic than current Japanese at the moment who are also psychopaths but had better end of the straw in the last 100 years

There are millions of angry psychopathic unemployed Chinese males ready to invade and seek revenge on Japanese psychopaths at any moment’s notice, and the innocent Japanese who do not want to take part in this should find a way to mitigate any of these damages if they want to survive.

There’s little time for these debates and arguments when shit is about to hit the fan sometime within the next decade

>>212316231
>>212316738
Ping pong ding dong ling long bing bong

>Haplogroup D influence the key to Japan's success

>>212318367
Enough about your small dick revenge fantasies wang

>>212318912
I’m Indian Brahman you WMAF loser cuckold

>>212318977
Timmy, it's Brahmin with an i

Brahman is their deist moving power

>>212316004
England was very populated and developed. 10,000 Norman knights who were similarly advanced but spec'd more into the combat skill trees just managed to take over the center of power, and because the monarch they overthrew was so unpopular people just kinda went with it.

>>212316004
England was very populated and developed. 10,000 Norman knights who were similarly advanced but spec'd more into the combat skill trees just managed to take over the center of power, then built fortresses everywhere for their new aristocracy.

>>212318977
>you WMAF loser cuckold
Stop talking about yourself

Not one drop of japanese blood itt

>>212318654
Very industrial!

>>212314011
Peak concentrated /int/ autism. I love it so much, no irony. Please post more.