Thread 212428916 - /int/ [Archived: 542 hours ago]

Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 12:47:51 AM No.212428916
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What the fuck is happening to the US dollar?
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 12:49:49 AM No.212428967
>>212428916 (OP)
It's being devalued. Which is actually what Trump wanted to make Americas non-existent manufacturing more competitive. Sad!
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 12:50:47 AM No.212428991
>>212428967
Are you guys going to recover soon?
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Anonymous Italy
7/5/2025, 12:52:19 AM No.212429039
>>212428967
I mean, Bad Dragon has had several positive quarters. I don't see why the devaluing is necessary
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 12:57:14 AM No.212429177
>>212428991
Yeah, currency valuation always go in cycles. Weaker dollar means American products, and services are cheaper for foreigners so they buy more, which then strengthens the economy, which causes the dollar to rise. Unironically, investing in dollars may be worth it soon for the recovery. You'd get an easy 10% increase once it balances out with the euro again, and FOREX leverage goes all the way up to 100x. The issue is that you never know the timeline of the recovery.
>>212429039
The actual fundamentals of the US economy are still good. The issue is that investors and financiers dislike how Trump goes about things, being quite erratic, and so they prefer assets with more stable heads behind them. It is more of a messaging issue than an actual issue with the US economy, or dollar.
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Anonymous Israel
7/5/2025, 12:59:14 AM No.212429246
>>212428916 (OP)
trump effect
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 1:02:13 AM No.212429324
The NIGGER loving JEW financiers, are DESTROYING the WHITE MAN'S COUNTRY, because they DISLIKE that TRUMP is deporting MEXICANS!
Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 1:03:42 AM No.212429364
>>212428916 (OP)
They're winning
Anonymous Bosnia and Herzegovina
7/5/2025, 1:28:44 AM No.212430068
>>212428916 (OP)
i wouldnt worry about it
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 1:45:12 AM No.212430482
>>212428916 (OP)
Weaker dollar -> stronger exports -> stronger American manufacturing
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Anonymous Austria
7/5/2025, 1:47:27 AM No.212430520
>>212430482
>stronger exports
You don't make anything
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 1:47:51 AM No.212430532
whatever trump "truths", believe it. it's not your fault if you're not versed in multidimensional chess, leave it to the pros
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 1:47:54 AM No.212430533
>>212429177
>Weaker dollar means American products, and services are cheaper for foreigners so they buy more
You don't produce anything tho
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 1:49:15 AM No.212430565
>>212430520
You've been seething about America the entire day bro, pretty sad
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 1:51:16 AM No.212430609
Devaluation to make up for the deficit
>>212430565
There is paid shills working for the EU (the libtards duh) astroturfing 4chan like they astroturf reddit.
Its been like this since novemeber
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 1:51:19 AM No.212430611
>>212430533
Yes, we have the largest economy on Earth because we don't make anything. Brazilian education and intellectualism at its finest.
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 1:52:19 AM No.212430636
>>212430532
Lmao so true these people still thinkin' in only 5 dimensions
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 1:52:41 AM No.212430647
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>>212430520
>>212430533
More than you do
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 1:55:06 AM No.212430695
>>212430611
Yes?
>>212430647
That's not a accomplishment.
Anonymous Colombia
7/5/2025, 1:55:33 AM No.212430705
>>212428967
trump does not know what the fuck he is doing. He puts on tariffs and then takes them off within a few weeks after corporate rats panic.

corporations know that there is no need to invest in manufacturing in USA because once a new president is elected they can just function as normal. people only invest in manufacturing for the long term. nobody takes trump's tariff threats seriously
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 1:57:06 AM No.212430742
>>212430705
Asshole Wallstreet Investors even coined a term for that "TACO trade".
Anonymous Canada
7/5/2025, 1:57:47 AM No.212430762
>>212428991
according to what I'm seeing in the charts, drops are usually 10%-15% max
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 2:00:44 AM No.212430814
>>212428916 (OP)
When the Mexicos get themselves deported they have to exchange their dollars into pesos in their actual country, this is a spike in demand caused by illegal activity.
Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 2:01:27 AM No.212430830
>>212430705
There is certain things america will likely mantain tariffs on because its bad for the Dollar to rely on external manufacturers.
The dollar value comes from the fact its reliable for military assets (oil, weapons, guns, drones, tech, suvreillance and intelligence services).
If America supply can be cut dry by competitng states then its unreliable
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 2:04:27 AM No.212430886
>>212430830
>by competing states
Such as? In IT they are second to none and nobody wants soviet garbage anymore because it is more lethal to the end user than anyone else.
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Anonymous Austria
7/5/2025, 2:04:38 AM No.212430895
>>212430609
Is it just paid EU shills posting on /int/ or are other governments shilling on /int/ as well?
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Anonymous Israel
7/5/2025, 2:16:07 AM No.212431162
>>212430895
Yo
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 2:19:25 AM No.212431244
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>>212430895
They banned 80% of the Russians so no, just Feds (america), Indians and r/Europe shillcords
As liberalism is a dying ideology worldwide 4chan is flooded with astroturfers. How grim.
>>212431162
Israeli posters are nice THOUGH
Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 2:22:53 AM No.212431318
>>212430886
China, saudi, potentially some european states and Puccia
True that in IT america is miles ahead though. There is only one starlink, but if you for instance have china invading taiwan, america will struggle with chip manufacturing (hence CHIPS act after taiwan drought) and get planes crashing mid air.
Thus they need to bring some industry back if they plan to keep the MIC active.
Partly to keep investors happy, partly for security and the dollar remaining strong as global backup currency
Anonymous Portugal
7/5/2025, 2:27:18 AM No.212431394
>>212428916 (OP)
Basically he is making sure companies move to USA due to weak dollar like they moved to china due to weak yuan. Its deliberate
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 2:29:31 AM No.212431439
>>212431394
companies moved to china because the labor was cheap (back then)
it makes no sense to come back to america unless you can make americans africa levels of poor.
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 2:30:33 AM No.212431468
>>212431439
Maybe they can employ the jailed illegals for slave labour
14th ammandment allows punitory slavery
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 2:32:17 AM No.212431505
>>212430895
Demonrats are known to pay shills here too
Anonymous Indonesia
7/5/2025, 2:32:22 AM No.212431506
>>212431439
>He doesnt know
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 2:33:30 AM No.212431534
>>212431439
>unless you can make americans africa levels of poor.
That's the intention, yes.
Americans have lived way above their means by exporting manufacturing overseas. Now it's time to America to grow strong again
Anonymous Denmark
7/5/2025, 2:34:33 AM No.212431562
>>212430609
>Its been like this since novemeber
IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE 2016
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 2:37:31 AM No.212431619
>>212430533
Stop repeating this nonsense
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 2:39:16 AM No.212431653
>>212430533
We aren't the industrial behemoth we were from the 40s to the 70s but we still are by far one of the largest manufacturing giants on the planets
Anonymous Portugal
7/5/2025, 2:42:55 AM No.212431737
>>212431439
Not really, there more than just weak ing the dollar. Tariffs on americans companies are another factor. If they operate and manufacture outside usa they will pay tariffs.
Anonymous Portugal
7/5/2025, 2:47:58 AM No.212431856
>>212431439
Do you know why japan got so rich in the 80s? Mass production and exportation while having a reasonable yen. Everyone wanted to buy from japan.
Domestic buying power in USA will explode
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 2:55:10 AM No.212431976
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>>212428967
nice
it was about time to took responsibility and become a real competitive economy like based china
you fags always warmoging and forcing others to import your shit at inaccessible prices, forcing us to take on debt and putting the country into more debt with the anglojuden world banks

also i expect a harley davidson dualsport for less than 3k in the next few years
Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 2:56:02 AM No.212431987
>>212430533
a devalued currency also discourages imports
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 3:00:29 AM No.212432087
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>>212431856
Japs always had a weak currency
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 3:10:48 AM No.212432270
>>212432087
the japanese went ape devaluing their currency after ww2, exporting like crazy and importing very little, leading to their recovery and boom
the americans were willing to look the other way because they needed allies for ww3, but eventually they got sick of it and pressured the japanese government to stop messing with their exchange
your image shows that their currency appreciated non stop since the 70s to the mid 90s, only recently has the yen lost some value
Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 3:13:21 AM No.212432313
18 pesos is too much, with Vicente fox we had 12 pesos vs american dollar
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Anonymous Malaysia
7/5/2025, 3:53:47 AM No.212433065
>>212430647
>>212430611
>half of China
It's over for mutts
Anonymous Malaysia
7/5/2025, 3:56:21 AM No.212433107
>>212430647
There's no way Vietnam is that low. I looked it up and it's wrong.
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 3:58:34 AM No.212433149
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>>212428916 (OP)
Capital is flooding away from the US into European and emerging markets. Hell, both Japan and China, two countries that notoriously have had poor stock market returns in the past decades, have been generating positive results.
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 4:00:53 AM No.212433191
>>212428991
>>212429177
It's expected to devalue until 2027-2028
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Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 4:20:59 AM No.212433577
>>212433191
If conditions don't change, but with Trump's schizophrenia, it wouldn't surprise me if he backtracks all his stuff and it increases in value again. Or are you saying they think it'll stay devalued for that long because they want Trump to be gone before they exchange back to dollars?
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 4:22:47 AM No.212433599
>>212431468
they've been doing this since 1865
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 4:46:15 AM No.212433930
>>212433577
>Or are you saying they think it'll stay devalued for that long because they want Trump to be gone before they exchange back to dollars?
I'm saying that the taxes on foreign investors, and the tariffs, will drive large institutions to look at other markets. European defense stocks, Chinese retail and tech, Japanese manufacturing, South American energy and fintech. That type of stuff will most likely be the target of global investors.
Anonymous United States
7/5/2025, 4:47:59 AM No.212433950
>>212428916 (OP)
We are so fucked. I may as well start hoarding gold or euros
Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 4:49:44 AM No.212433975
>>212428916 (OP)
>*buys the dip*
psshhh
Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 5:06:43 AM No.212434185
>>212432313
with porfirio "el cientifico" diaz the peso and the dollar worth the same
Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 5:08:01 AM No.212434198
>>212433107
7 year old graph, around the time the first tariff wars started and manufacturing moved vietnam in full force only after that
Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 5:08:15 AM No.212434201
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with fox we had 5 peso gansitos
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 5:15:06 AM No.212434284
>>212428916 (OP)
Trump knows the dollar as the world's trading currency has its days counted
He's preparing for that
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Anonymous France
7/5/2025, 5:53:37 AM No.212434794
>>212434284
the only thing trump knows is the smell of trump's asshole
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 5:54:14 AM No.212434803
>>212434794
Reddit boomer ass post
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Anonymous France
7/5/2025, 5:57:59 AM No.212434847
>>212434803
only the most politically and economically illiterate knuckledragging fucktard can believe trump knows shit about fuck
im glad you love autocrats, good for you
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Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 6:07:28 AM No.212434952
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>>212434847
Why do you write like a liberal redditor boomer lmao
Embarassing
Time to let it go unc, liberalism is on its deathbed

Seething on blumpf exudes old people energy
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Anonymous Guatemala
7/5/2025, 6:16:55 AM No.212435084
>>212430647
>Puerto Rico
what do they produce?
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Anonymous Guatemala
7/5/2025, 6:23:30 AM No.212435146
>>212434201
(((Inflation))) is good and desirable bruh
Anonymous Germany
7/5/2025, 6:39:43 AM No.212435354
>>212434952
Tsaar...
Anonymous Argentina
7/5/2025, 7:13:32 AM No.212435758
>>212435084
they apparently received yuge pharma investments from the US
crazy to think they have the 4th largest manufacturing sector of latam being a tiny island with like 5 million people