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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 8:53:12 PM No.212457346
Ouro-Negro-
Ouro-Negro-
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Our relation with Angola grows stronger every day.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 8:56:04 PM No.212457422
>>212457346 (OP)
And that's a bad thing
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 8:57:00 PM No.212457445
angola has kino geography
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:00:46 PM No.212457569
>>212457422
Never met a bad Luso-African
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/5/2025, 9:00:56 PM No.212457576
>>212457422
Shut it chud they’re your ancestors
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Anonymous Poland
7/5/2025, 9:04:25 PM No.212457700
>>212457346 (OP)
is their Portuguese accent easily distinguishable? does it sound more like Brazilian or Portuguese accent?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:06:32 PM No.212457777
>>212457422
Africans are bro tier
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:07:45 PM No.212457816
eu dei o cu para um angolano
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:08:07 PM No.212457830
>>212457569
You probably haven't interacted with them much yet. Many of them seem extremely nationalistic and disconnected from reality, most are black nationalists
>>212457576
None of my ancestors are from Angola. It might be your ancestors since you're from Africa
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:09:04 PM No.212457853
>>212457700
More like Portuguese accent. All Portuguese-speaking African countries have an accent very similar to modern Portugal's accents, probably because their independence was recent
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Anonymous Italy
7/5/2025, 9:09:08 PM No.212457859
>>212457830
portugal and angola are the parents of brazil
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 9:10:01 PM No.212457889
>>212457830
>Many of them seem extremely nationalistic and disconnected from reality, most are black nationalists
brazilians are white nationalists and zionists
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Anonymous Canada
7/5/2025, 9:10:05 PM No.212457898
>>212457777
Anything "bro tier" is a cringe thing to say
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Anonymous Poland
7/5/2025, 9:10:21 PM No.212457910
>>212457853
do blacks in Brazil feel any kind of relation to modern Angola and Mozambique?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:11:32 PM No.212457956
>>212457422
They are nice people, they like us because of how much they're exposed to our media and their country is pretty open for brazilian foreign investment, they even let Petrobrás own some oil fields there, brazilian enginnering firms have been behind a lot of their recent infrastructure works and they pay back the loans they take from our banks (althought not in time).
The only other country they're this trustful and open for business is China, because of belt and road initiative.
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Anonymous Spain
7/5/2025, 9:12:10 PM No.212457980
>>212457346 (OP)
>half blond
That´s white in Brazil
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:18:06 PM No.212458211
>>212457859
I don't like either Portugal or Angola. We shouldn't even be speaking the same language.
>>212457889
Yes, I'm a Zionist, but I'm not a white nationalist
>>212457956
They have nothing to offer but problems. It'll ruin this country, mark my words
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Anonymous Portugal
7/5/2025, 9:19:30 PM No.212458270
>>212457700
They have an accent but it's still just European Portuguese because they use that as their educational matrix. Brazil is the only snowflake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYeJUKiyHd0
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:20:00 PM No.212458288
>>212457910
Idk
>>212457889
Yeah, he's the filth talking about the dirt.
>>212457859
we feel more like brothers
>>212457898
had an Angolanbro at the gym, he was always in a good mood
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:20:23 PM No.212458312
>>212457956
none of those things make difference for me.
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Anonymous Poland
7/5/2025, 9:21:17 PM No.212458341
>>212458270
which former Portuguese colony is your favorite one?
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:23:01 PM No.212458408
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>>212457910
I don't think so. Black slaves came from various different places in Africa. Most black Brazilians have no clue to where their ancestors came from exactly and they are probably a mix of various ethnicities, including Portuguese and indigenous Brazilian. For example, Brazil has a lot of yoruba cultural influence in words and some traditions but there are no yorubas in Angola or Mozambique
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:26:58 PM No.212458564
OEC
OEC
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>>212458211
>It'll ruin this country
Literally How?
>>212458312
Line goes up = good for you
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Anonymous Italy
7/5/2025, 9:27:33 PM No.212458588
>>212458408
>bundos
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Anonymous Canada
7/5/2025, 9:31:40 PM No.212458734
>>212457956
>their country is pretty open for brazilian foreign investment, they even let Petrobrás own some oil fields there, brazilian enginnering firms have been behind a lot of their recent infrastructure works and they pay back the loans they take from our banks (althought not in time).
That because the Angolan state is fucking retarded. The state would rather collect rent versus actually upskilling its population and strengthening it's own regional, economic and cultural power. Its why so many companies and immigrants from nearby states can make easy money. The locals literally have no way to actually compete. It's a sad reality but Dos Santos killed the state
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:32:02 PM No.212458743
Just a reminder: Angola and Mozambique are expected to have 80 to 100 ppl this century, while Brazil and Portugal face declining populations. It's pretty clear what's coming, they'll turn the whole Portuguese speaking world into an African country. You have no idea how bad things really are, you're playing a losing game
>>212458564
You're negro
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:32:56 PM No.212458771
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>>212457576
>>212458408
Most of our slaves were brought from Nigeria rather than Angola. Pic related, some returnees even formed an upper class there.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BSMD51t9ZHo
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:33:10 PM No.212458783
>>212458743
>80 to 100 million
Fxd
Anonymous Canada
7/5/2025, 9:35:00 PM No.212458843
>>212458743
>It's pretty clear what's coming, they'll turn the whole Portuguese speaking world into an African country
Most African migration is contained within Africa. The obssession over having a number of your customers of your furniture being possibly black(ish) is a silly one to have. Why be afraid of more money?
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 9:39:06 PM No.212458978
>>212458408
most blacks in brazil were from the kongo area
but this begs the question if they were from kongo why are afro-brazilian religions more related to yorùbá religion?
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 9:41:19 PM No.212459052
Screenshot 2025-07-05 at 13-37-44 Afro-Brazilians - Wikipedia
>>212458978
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:41:21 PM No.212459053
>>212458843
You have to go back to Somalia
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:56:34 PM No.212459624
kceleste
kceleste
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>>212458588
Where you think the word comes from?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 9:59:40 PM No.212459741
>>212458978
you have to qualify this statement.
Blacks were brought from Brazil in several waves and some of the earlier slaves did not leave significant genetic markers in the population. Kongo influence is actually pretty strong in many parts of the country, with Congos and Congadas being common names for traditional feasts and celebrations here, mostly associated to Catholic feast days. So the Congolese relugiosity was mostly absorbed into the general Catholic culture of the country, while Yoruba influence managed to stay a little bit closer to indigenous African religion (but even then they did go through intense religious syncretism)
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 10:03:35 PM No.212459890
>>212459741
why was one fully absorbed while the other wasn't though? just chance?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 10:06:00 PM No.212459979
>>212459890
the Kingdom of Kongo had already been converted to Catholicism even before the first Portuguese ever reached Brazil
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Anonymous Mexico
7/5/2025, 10:07:18 PM No.212460022
>>212459979
wasn't illegal to enslave christians?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 10:09:07 PM No.212460093
>>212460022
the slaves themselves were not Christians, the Kingdom of Kongo would get them from the interior to sell to the Portuguese, however they were already in contact with Christian culture much more than the Yoruba
also every slave was baptized, normally as soon as they got to Brazil
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 10:13:34 PM No.212460249
>>212460022
No one cares about religion. I remember reading some old family documents last year and discovering that my relatives baptized their slaves into Catholicism
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 10:54:27 PM No.212461738
>>212460022
It was legal, but socially awkward.
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 11:28:53 PM No.212462726
>>212458771
>Most of our slaves were brought from Nigeria rather than Angola

False

>>212458978
>most blacks in brazil were from the kongo area

True

Many slaves from kongo were already catechized when they arrived here
Anonymous Brazil
7/5/2025, 11:55:19 PM No.212463538
>>212457700
>is their Portuguese accent easily distinguishable?

Their high class and educated people sound identical to the Portuguese while part of their popular classes talk with some very weird diphthongs
Anonymous Brazil
7/6/2025, 12:35:07 AM No.212464602
>>212458270
The older alveolar trill seems to still have prestige in most of Africa and Asia unlike in Portugal and Brazil here is losing space to guttural pronunciations. The Cape Verdian anchorwoman is the one to do the guttural way like a typical Lisboner.

Also the anchorwoman from Guinea Bissau uses the reflexive pronoun "si" with the meaning of "you" a known inovation of european portuguese
Anonymous Brazil
7/6/2025, 12:35:59 AM No.212464621
>>212457700
It's sounds more like Portugal portuguese but way easier to understand. Honestly out accent is pretty unique all the other country that speak Portuguese have a little of Portugal accent
Anonymous Brazil
7/6/2025, 1:17:29 AM No.212465685
>>212458743
>nooooo you can't enjoy positive economic partnership and the streightening of your country's soft power and global presence noooooo you must hate angolans because... they are le black o algo!!!
/pol/zilians mental illness, sorry for liking the fact my country is making a buck while helping with the development of a fellow lusophone nation.
>>212458734
Some would make the same argument with Brazil and certain industry sectors, I guess it is what it is
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Anonymous Canada
7/6/2025, 2:55:27 AM No.212467515
>>212465685
>I guess it is what it is
It's pretty dire in Angola.
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Anonymous Slovenia
7/6/2025, 2:59:05 AM No.212467576
>>212459624
dios mio
Anonymous Canada
7/6/2025, 2:59:56 AM No.212467591
>>212467515
as an example look at this.
https://www.theafricareport.com/311780/angomart-anseba-kibabo-new-supermarkets-continue-to-flood-angola/
The article cuts out at the end but there's literally no internal Angolan (or Luso-African) entity outside of the state. Literally everyone is cashing in and out of the country but the locals.
Anonymous Brazil
7/6/2025, 3:20:59 AM No.212467964
>>212465685
The benefits just aren’t worth the downsides right now under these circumstances. Brazil gets NOTHING meaningful from these countries, we give them our technology and get nothing back. I’m guessing you’re the kind of person who thinks it's okay to hand over our agroindustrial tech so they can compete with us, even though we have NO control over their production. This kind of third worldism is self sabotage