Germany and France repaired their friendship

>>212513868 (OP)
This was 80 years ago nige

C'est pas ma faute
Et quand je donne ma langue aux chats je vois les autres
Tout prêts à se jeter sur moi, c'est pas ma faute à moi
Si j'entends tout autour de moi
L.O.L.I.T.A, moi Lolita

>>212513868 (OP)
cool

a major Franco-German arms project (FCAS) is about to collapse, another major one (MGCS) likely to follow suit. the Franco-German special relationship is a meme.

>>212513868 (OP)
Who's the bottom in their relationship?

>>212513868 (OP)
I feel cheated on

>>212513868 (OP)
Bruh no cap man we need to holla up the Brits. We need dem Typhoons, knamsayn?

>>212516079
Which one was your spouse?

>>212516295
Germany was the sugardaddy but the Polish thot developed feelings

I hate g*rmans so much it's unreal

>>212515987
this but only for the germans, we always come to projects willing, germans on the other see these things as a way to hijack part of the french industry like with airbus for example

>>212516488
not true, but you don't care anyway.
same happened with the Eurofighter and Boxer before, France left when its design wasn't chosen.
now France is demanding 80% workshare for FCAS with a 50/50 cost split. the project can't die soon enough.

>>212516570
Framce dropped out of the Eurofighter program because the vision the UK and Germany were pushing did not include essential capabilities such as takeoff and landing from aiecraft carriers or nuclear warhead delivery. The Eurofighter was designed as a pure air superiority aircraft as opposed to the Rafale, a multi-purpose jet.

>>212516570
And if you wanted to make that argument you could have chosen a more appropriate example such as the joint tank program that led to the Leopard 1 and AMX-30

>>212516079
muack besiter

>>212516570
always here to steal superior french technology. We know you perfectly, krauts

Anyway what good could come from an obedient yankee's dog.

>>212516764
the Eurofighter is multirole too, and certifying it for nuke delivery would be no issue. The truth you don't want to admit is that France dropped out of it because it didn't get enough workshare, like always. Your country wants others to fund French projects, it doesn't want actual joint projects. This is due to muh strategic autonomy. But the fault is with Merkel for having agreed on this retarded project in the first place, this was known in 2017 already and we could've saved ourselves 8 years of wasting time.

>>212516893
the EJ200 of the Eurofighter is objectively superior to the Snecma M88 in the Rafale, and your other tech is nothing special either.

>>212516905
>the Eurofighter is multirole too
It is after years of reworking and budget overruns, but it was not the original vision of the project. It was initially designed as an air superiority fighter, with CAS and other roles performed by older generations of fighters.
>The truth you don't want to admit is that France dropped out of it because it didn't get enough workshare
I don't have to admit anything because it's just not true. I already gave you an example of what you described actually happening.
The main reason why Getmany and France went their own way with their first generation of MBT was because France wanted to protect its DIB, notably AMX and Hispano-Suiza.
>This is due to muh strategic autonomy.
So which one is it? You don't even seem sure of your own thesis

>>212517129
>You don't even seem sure of your own thesis
how so? you pretend a joint project to get outside funding but then throw a fit until you get your way. not this time hopefully.

>>212516905
Rafale is better than the Eurofighter though, true multirole from the start and more future proof. EF is a cold war relic and a dead end. I'd trust the frogs over Germany when it comes to miltech, they have way more expertise.

>>212517383
no, you just bought our tranche 1 EFs like the retards you are.

>>212517222
Because you claim in a single post it's about saving money and getting more work but also about strategic autonomy.
These two things are mutually exclusive.

>>212517464
no they're not? you want others to pay for your project, it's that simple.

>>212513868 (OP)
franco german cooperation is a fantasy entertained by france only

>>212517383
>gaymer incel
Ach(medović)

>>212517491
You can't have strategic autonomy if you rely on others. It's that simple. You seem to be utterly convinced, in spite of the facts. Peace.

It’s ok France, I know the breakup was harsh but you know our love for you is endless and you can always come to us in your time of need

>>212517615
>I declared myself the winner and you the loser bye
What a fag, no wonder nobody likes joint projects with you troglodytes.

>>212517594
>>212517453
Just make better projects that don't get mogged by the frogs. Eurodrone is another project needlessly complicated by Germ autism

>>212517770
hey boeing-kun, how it's going ? Great ?

>>212513868 (OP)
I'm going to ruin it again

>>212517770
We bave very successful joint projects with the UK, Italy, Spain to name just a few. Somehow it's always with Germany that things fall apart. I wonder why...

>>212518223
no you don't, you dropped out of Eurofighter and Boxer and minor projects like Storm Shadow aren't comparable to a fighter or tank. A frigate hull isn't comparable either before you bring up FREMM, the tech required is far less complex.

>>212517858
Nigga we be making buck with the Boxer, Leo, IRIS-T and submarines + we coolkin with Norway, Spain and the UK right now.

Why would anyone want to be a friend of Germany? Do you like a country that kills children in gas chambers?

>>212518442
they did it for a brief moment almost a century ago but russia is doing it right now as we speak

>>212518592
no, they're killing the children with ballistic missiles, so it's ok

>>212518592
Oh really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Nama_genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_Belgium

They have always been like that. The part of the brain that is responsible for empathy and moral integrity is either amputated or blocked.

>>212518160
>In May, Boeing secured 303 gross orders for new airplanes, marking the highest monthly total since December 2023. This included 146 orders for the 737 MAX, 30 for the 777X, and 127 for the 787. Boeing's backlog of unfilled orders reached 5,943 at the end of May. The company also delivered 45 aircraft in May, the fifth consecutive month with 40 or more deliveries
Pretty decent all things considered.
>As of May 31, 2025, Airbus has a backlog of 8,617 commercial aircraft, according to Airbus and Boeing order reports. This figure excludes the A320ceo family and A330-200. A significant portion, 7,660 or 88.9%, of this backlog consists of A220 and A320neo family narrowbody aircraft.
I had to use Airbus numbers because France doesn't have a domestic commercial aircraft industry anymore.

>>212518696
russians killed those children, for no reason.
The boy was crippled too

>>212518696
hello psycho, how do you explain this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Joseph_Haass

>>212518696
>Blokhin initially decided on an ambitious quota of 300 executions per night, and engineered an efficient system in which the prisoners were individually led to a small antechamber — which had been painted red and was known as the "Leninist room" — for a brief and cursory positive identification, before being handcuffed and led into the execution room next door. The room was specially designed with padded walls for soundproofing, a sloping concrete floor with a drain and hose, and a log wall for the prisoners to stand against. Blokhin would stand waiting behind the door in his executioner garb: a leather butcher's apron, leather hat, and shoulder-length leather gloves. Then, without a hearing, the reading of a sentence or any other formalities, each prisoner was brought in and restrained by guards while Blokhin shot him once in the base of the skull with a German Walther Model 2 .25 ACP pistol.[12][13][14] He had brought a briefcase full of his own Walther pistols, since he did not trust the reliability of the standard-issue Soviet TT-30 for the frequent, heavy use he intended. The use of a German pocket pistol, which was commonly carried by German police and intelligence agents, also provided plausible deniability of the executions if the bodies were discovered later.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin

>>212513868 (OP)
I LOVE FRANCE
I LOVE FRANCE
I LOOOOOOOOOVE FRANCE
<3 <3 <3

>>212516488
Frances concept of joint weapons development is that everything will be developed to french needs in France and all the manufacturing will be done in France. And the only thing the partner countries do is contribute pay for everything.
Also Airbus was formed as a pan european company and still is one.
>>212516764
Germany and France should just not jointly develop any weapon system since we have wildly diffrent military objectives (Germany wants to defend Europe from Russia, France wants to bomb random Nbungus in post colonial conflicts)

>>212518757
Those children were etnically german too.
rly meks u think

>>212519145
*ethnically

>>212517717
Basé. On a besoin d’une nouvelle empire Angevin.

>>212519132
>Also Airbus was formed as a pan european company and still is one.
lmao

>>212513868 (OP)
That's adorable

>>212518442
>Do you like a country that kills children in gas chambers?
Depends, what race the are children

what are they arguing about, it's too complex for me to understand

>>212519617
Finlan are frens too of course!

>>212519563
Xe is right. The top selling Airbus helicopters (H145) and planes (A32X) are German designed and made in a rare case.

>>212519563
huh?

>>212519812
Pan-european friendship.
Something Bongistan could never do.

>>212513868 (OP)
that could be us... if not for... orange retard...

vgh....

>>212519822
Why, of course. But that picture, I want to frame it and put it on a table

>>212520174
No and you're really delusional to think otherwise.

>>212520266
cute :3

>>212520174
Yes and you’re really factual to think so

>>212513868 (OP)
>friendship
more like "mutual subjugation by the United States"

>>212520174
<3

>>212522428
They are expanding their own weapons manufacturing, and telling the US to kick rocks. Have you been ignoring the news for the last year?

>>212522428

>>212522681
To be fair we would be buying more of your stuff if you offered more local production. Iirc we asked for he license to build the Apache to replace our tiger but you said no :(

>>212522747
Source?

>>212522681
Is this meant to be a refutation of my post?

>>212522747
>but you said no :(
How rude!

>>212513868 (OP)
Pro-EU propaganda for retards. Germany will always be an enemy to us.

>>212524789
Why?

>>212519826
>>212520059
germany completely hijacked airbus

>>212525561
Skill issue

>>212525561
What are you smoking?
Airbus is the result of a merger between Aérospatiale (French), DaimlerChrysler Aerospace (German) and Construcciones Aeronáuticas(Spanish). If anything it is France that has taken over the german and spanish areosace industry

>>212519132
>Frances concept of joint weapons development is that everything will be developed to french needs in France and all the manufacturing will be done in France. And the only thing the partner countries do is contribute pay for everything.
France is the most important country in the world so this makes sense

>>212520174
America at this point would need a bonafide cultural revolution to turn back into a normal country. Sad to say but true.

bump

>>212513868 (OP)
Franco-German friendship is a pure fantasy only dreamt up by deranged washed up french politicians. The Germans do not give a shit about us, I wouldn't be surprised if the average German feels closer to a Pole or a Czech than to a French person. Many times this country fucked us over for no good reason. We should have rekindled the franco-british alliance like in the good old days, at least you know what you get with the brits and our interests align way more.

>>212528378
>The Germans do not give a shit about us
?

>this thread
kek and these niggas lecture us about "european solidarity"

>>212528469
There is no european solidarity lmao. Biggest scam on this continent

>France partners with Spain and Italy for a carrier capable aircraft
>Germany partners with Netherlands and Scandis
Is the natural, rational solution really that hard to see?