Why doesn't Sweden have freedom?

This also effectively bans Onlyfans in Sweden all together so it's a small price to pay. TOTAL SIMP DEATH

>>212517740
it said buying was banned, not creating Onlyfans
doesn't this mean swedish whores can still sell to foreigners?

>>212517695 (OP)
Why is prostitution bad from their point of view? Didn't they create an image for themselves as the most promiscuous country?

>>212517695 (OP)
>>212517740
Based

>only the buyers will get prosecuted

>>212517695 (OP)
>only the buyers will get prosecuted
what a joke of country, looks like brazil 2.0

>censored twitter screencap with an e-celeb in the corner
4chan keeps falling to new depths

imagine not thinking nordics are an utopia

>>212517695 (OP)
>brown men worldwide get to watch naked Swedish cuties
>Swedish men don't even get to watch
Ultimate cuckoldry

>>212517695 (OP)
Sweden created a chair for kuk

https://quqchairs.com/blogs/news/adam22-takes-a-seat-with-quqchairs-a-front-row-partnership

>>212517772
yes because it’s an extension to their anti prostitution law. truly a fucked up country

>>212517833
>>212517835
The way feminists view this is women do it out of necessity, having to prostitute themselves to pay bills and such, while the consumers are exploiting said women.

nordicks are utopian, fight me

>>212517772
Nope because Onlyfans (the company) would be liable for enabling illegal prostitution.
>>212517796
It's a unholy unity between Christian lobby groups and sex negative feminist groups. Basically all political parties supported this law except the social democrats who wanted it to be even stricter.

>>212517772
still, killing simps is better than the status quo
ofc i wouldn't call this policy "based" since it was obviously done by swedish karens in the name of protecting women from sexual exploitation

>>212517901
>sex negative feminist groups.
idgi, aren't most feminists nowadays pro-sex and pro-sex work?

>>212517740
Imao look at the last line. You're still a feminist cuckhole.

>>212517922
They basically see all prostitution as rape because payment for sex is coercive.

>>212517772
Part of an ongoing investigation. It was decided like two weeks ago that paying for services on OF goes under prostitution and therefore illegal. Here's the thing though. If buying services off OF goes under the classification of prostitution the natural conclusion to make about OF itself is that it's running an organized online prostitution operation in Sweden. Which is obviously massively illegal. My conclusion is:
>OF banned completely along with all swedish content creators
= based and i'm all for it
>literally only swedish buyers is banned
= cringe and embarrasing beyond belief

>>212517695 (OP)
>Let's turn the clock back on the sexual revolution but keep the female liberation stuff!
Lmao good luck with that foids. Enjoy going back in the kitchen.

Swedish feminists are ridiculous

Umahbros…. We WON

No porn, no prostitution, lenient rape laws. Swedish incels you have the greenlight!

>>212517695 (OP)
>censoring "cam shows"
lol

>>212517895
>Out of necessity
>In biggest welfare state in the history of mankind

>>212517772
>>212517875
>>212517906
>doesn't this mean swedish whores can still sell to foreigners?
No, because the platform would be committing a crime in Sweden if a Swedish person or a person based in Sweden sold custom content using that platform. The platform would be sentenced for a crime called "koppleri". Also any bank that did banking for that Swedish person who sells the custom content would be committing a crime as well.

>>212517895
So they're making an exception for gay porn right? Right?

>>212518209
Translation of koppleri is profiteering of simply pimping

>>212517796
There are a ton of SWERFs on the Nordic left.

t. have same law for IRL prostitution

>>212517695 (OP)
I'm glad simps are getting the rope but why the fuck wouldn't you also prosecute the e-whore?

>>212517796
>Didn't they create an image for themselves as the most promiscuous country?
Outcast was booed off stage for having twerking women in the their act during way-out-west

>>212518305
Because she's a victim o algo

please come and rape our retarded whore women

>>212517695 (OP)
low key based
the idea that whores would get paid without actually putting your dick in their mouth is absurd.

>>212518305
The rationale is that you don't want to criminalize people that may be exploited in some way. Which is IMO correct, but obviously vastly inferior to actual legalization and regulation in terms of protecting sex workers.

Do these Swedish "feminists" take a stance on immigration from third world countries? Or do they just shut the fuck up when actual crime happens? The lesson is clear, rape rape rape.

>>212518057
>lenient rape laws
nigga what?

>>212518453
The punishments are lenient

>>212518453
Typical memebrain that sees that rapes increased a lot in Sweden, then does zero digging and doesn't realize it's because Sweden massively tightened it's laws on rape leading to more charges.

you should bitch slap and spit in the face of every single feminist you see
that's all they deserve

>>212518074
Oh, that's what it said. I thought it was "cum sluts." Wtf, cam and show aren't even vulgar lmao

>>212518534
Stop, you're gonna make them cum
t. knower

>>212517695 (OP)
I thought prostitution was empowering o algo and Sweden is a progressive nation

Imagine not just using simpcity

>>212518619
can't have that

Taking away the only reason for an incel to support female liberation is a bold strategy. Let's see how it pays off.

>>212517835
>>212517833
simps deserve worse fate than any whore in this world

>>212518638
do you think feminists would ever miss a single opportunity to make men evil?
they are the ones throwing stones at prostitutes who say they are proud of their jobs and chose to do it, telling those poor whores to shut their filthy mouths.
it's the same with how they scream at trad christian chuds to defend them because trannies are trying to share their privileges.
don't expect logic or consistent standards from them.

>>212518408
How is exploited defined here, exactly? Sure, the woman is posting naked pictures of herself online, if even that, but who gets to decide if that's worse than the shittier legal jobs? Plenty of women do it for supplementary income. I thought sex wasn't that big of a deal, now even making money off your nudes is traumatizing enough that the government needs to step in... to arrest whoever is giving the money you apparently desperately need?

>>212518930
Our equivalent of this law only encompasses IRL prostitution, e.g. victims of human trafficking, refugees, eurozone poors etc.

Though you could certainly find that kind of exploitation happening with online sex work too, the operation the Tate brothers were running in Romania was all online AFAIK and heavily exploitative.

>>212519183
Then they should deal with those cases, a great minority. there are plenty of ways to illegally source and distribute otherwise legal products, we don't ban all of those for that. I'm more curious as to what's going on in the heads of who makes those laws.

>>212518408
Yeah it's really weird to see that rationale used to justify banning prostitution when you could far more effectively protect prostitutes by legalising and regulating it. Driving it all underground just hurts people.

>>212517695 (OP)
didnt read, i want to fuck swedish women

Why are you guys seething about coomers and whores being shut down

>>212517695 (OP)
lowkey based, I am betting the US will soon make this illegal too

>>212519633
because whores won't be shutdown while simps will be
and simps and coomers are different. simpery is pathological but cooming is a lifestyle.

>>212519538
>>212519517
The most rational approach would be to legalize and regulate it as a labor issue (especially OF, like all "gig work") but there's a lingering moral issue and most parties are hesitant to be seen as endorsing sex work.

>>212517740
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>>212518297
Swede-exclusionary radical feminists?

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Döda dig själv cp
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>>212520366
Ja kommer döda dig gatuskitarfitta

>>212520406
du har noll koll på vafan du gör + att du är muslim

>>212520500
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR I SWEAR ON MY LIFE IM NOT A JEET BUT YOURE A ZAINCHI MUSLIM WHU ELSE WOUÖD YOI HATE JEETS
retarded fucking shitskin

>>212519918
>simpery is pathological but cooming is a lifestyle.
Both are mental illnesses and addictions, both deserve being shut down, it's males fault that they enable shitty female behavior by assuming women have agency over their actions

>>212520628
du sjuder för att du är brun

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>>212518119
This lmfao

Based. Death to all simps.

>>212517740
prepare for your sluts to preform a mass exodus

>>212518305
It's the kind of feminism where women are always victims. It's been said before a billion times but I'll reiterate that it ironically brings back Victorian attitudes about women where they're more like children than actual adults and don't have the agency and thus the responsibility a man has.

>>212517695 (OP)
do we really need that ugly gremlin in the corner there?

>>212517695 (OP)
it's radical feminist brainrot.
their reasoning is if you have to be compensated in order to consent to sex you aren't really consentint therefor your a victim and the buyer is basically a rapist (you can argue that all work is nonconsensual with the same reasoning, but that is ignored).
Then they expand the definition of prostitution to any monetized sexual favor (like paying someone to stick a cucumber up their ass and take pics of it).
However consuming porn (as long as you havent comissioned it apparently) and watching strip teases is legal for some reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model_approach_to_prostitution

>>212525586
we aren't bringing anything back. women are the politically active majority. this is the power of democracy.

A lot of FAKE NEWS have been spread about Sweden's "OnlyFans ban". Fake news can distort the Sweden picture. In Sweden we have a law called Brottsbalken or just BrB for short. Crime is illegal in Sweden thanks to BrB. You can read the law here:
https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/svensk-forfattningssamling/brottsbalk-1962700_sfs-1962-700/

The legal paragraph that makes things like "custom sexual content", "camming", and "strip clubs" illegal is the new version of BrB 6 kap. 12 §. It says that any internet platform or physical establishment that distributes "sexual services" or "sexual actions" broadly speaking will be sentenced for "koppleri", which would translate to "pimping" and that's illegal in Sweden. Any bank or payment processor involved would also get in legal problems and could be sentenced for "medhjälp till brott" if there is intent/negligence ("uppsåt/oaktsamhet"), which would translate to "assisting with a crime".

In Sweden we use "förarbeten" to help to clarify the law. The most important "förarbete" is the "utskottsbetänkande" since that is the final "förarbete". However in practice the "propositionen (prop.)" is usually the most informative "förarbete". The prop. for the law change is 2024/25:124.
https://data.riksdagen.se/dokument/HC03124#page_61

We can see that selling "sexuella handlingar", which translates to "sexual actions" is now criminal in Sweden. The definition is very broad and photos and videos are mentioned in the "författningskommentar" to the new version of BrB 6 kap. 12 §. They also mention strip clubs and camming. However, pornography is not illegal if it's directed to an "unspecified audience" (the term used in Swedish is "ospecificerad publik"), i.e. not a specific person or group of people. This means that all custom videos or "OnlyFans chats" are illegal under this new law. Strip clubs are now also illegal. The prison sentence is 2 to 10 years if significant/large scale ("grovt").

>>212518119
kek

>>212527631
>strip clubs
there are still active strip clubs close to my home

>>212517895
>women do it out of necessity, having to prostitute themselves to pay bills and such
So feminists want those women to be homeless on the streets? Also Sweden has generous welfare

>>212526847
>>212526847
reminds me of teenage prostitutes here that keep their earnings and continue prostitution even when their customers get arrested lmao

>>212518209
>any bank that did banking for that Swedish person who sells the custom content would be committing a crime as well.
What the fuck. So anyone who breaks the law in Sweden is effectively a second-class citizen who can't access banks even if they do so for legitimate bank accounts?

>>212527878
Are strippers classified as dancers in Sweden?

>>212517695 (OP)
>>212517740
Based beyond belief
Total Simp Incineration

>>212527878
>>212528075
The new law change came in effect recently (2025-07-01). The "förarbeten" is very clear that distributing any "sexuella handlingar" is illegal. Both in person or on the internet ("distans"). Those strip clubs will no longer be strip clubs because of this new law. Strip clubs are mentioned as being illegal in prop. 2024/25:124.
>Koppleribrott kan också begås genom att någon anlitar en annan person för att utföra föreställningar som inkluderar sexuella handlingar på beställning av en tredje part. Sådana föreställningar kan exempelvis utföras digitalt eller på en strippklubb
https://data.riksdagen.se/dokument/HC03124#page_61

>>212527941
Feminists would rather women sit on the dole or starve than depress the price of the cunt. It's the economy, stupid

>>212528150
So how come that Swedish anon has a strip club operating near him?

>nooo you can't sell sex once in a while to men instead of being a wageslave 8 hours a day, don't you get it your oppressed honey!

>>212526847
>picrel
We are under the impression that genital massages are a cultural practice in parts of the Far East and not a taboo breaking all kinds of social limitations as in the judeo-christian west.
This cartoon is very strange, as if published by someone very culturally starved or just a rare Christian evangelic.

>>212528149
>yes, what other adult people do between themselves is my business!
shove it up your ass fatso

>>212528267
There are no strip clubs anymore. Do not spread fake news about Sweden. Fake news can distort the Sweden picture. The new law change came in effect recently (2025-07-01). Those strip clubs will no longer be strip clubs because of this new law. Crime is illegal in Sweden thanks to BrB. You can read the law here:
https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/svensk-forfattningssamling/brottsbalk-1962700_sfs-1962-700/

>>212518619
Unreal how they like to be degraded as humanly possible when having sex.
That's gotta be some bipolar shit going

>>212528311
Most whores are exploited and the law is to protect them.

never goon kings, we keep winning

>>212528414
exploited how?

>>212528394
neger
https://www.wandas.se/sv/
https://www.chatnoir.se/

>>212528414
as opposed to the people who clean your grandpas ass?

>>212528414
It's the lonely incel simps who are the most exploited though

>>212528414
people are
>exploited
in any field under the sun, how is an indipendent escort exploited? Or a whore working in a tightly monitored brothel?

>>212528394
Stripping is a fixed performance not subject for exploitative "customization". I'd be surprised if it's illegal but wouldn't be against it knowing how creeps here enjoys finding loopholes to keep on exploiting the vulnerable.

>>212528453
They will be sentenced for koppleri if they do not comply with this new law. Also, please do not use racist language.

>>212528443
>>212528481
>>212528491
kill yourselves. total simp death.

>>212528005
Is that unusual? These are fairly new laws. It was viewed as a ridiculous that a criminal should be allowed to keep any resources gathered. It's all frozen and collected these days. I thought that was just us being le silly humanitarians or whatever previously. Yeah bro, the cops and tax man just take everything you have these days. Including anything "loaned" to you like your parents car and whatnot

>>212528414
most workers are exploited.
no one wants to work as a mcdolands chef, customer support, delivery driver, supermarket cashier, streetcleaners, maids, nursing homes etc

>>212528593
Most jobs serve a useful social function. Prostitution doesn't.

>>212528563
i wan't to leaglize prostitution in order to devalue pussy dumb trurk

>>212528592
So how can criminals earn a legitimate living if they're banned from banking? Why should me failing to pay €10k entail the state to seize €100k of my savings?

>>212528593
do you get naked and fucked in every hole by strange men at your job?

>>212528624
It does the opposite. No one wants to fuck for free if they can get paid for it.

>>212528618
>Prostitution doesn't.
Yes it does. Prostitutes give sexual intimacy for mental well being.

>>212528593
I actually want to be useful to society and would enjoy working in the nursing home if the profession weren't so disrespected and paid so poorly in Eurostan. It's a bit depressing just how poorly nurses are paid in Europe, even in Switzerland, the richest goddamn country of the continent, nurses are still paid worse than in California. And everybody and his mom know English nowadays but German is rare in the 3rd world, so it's a bit of a mystery to me how come the nurses are paid so poorly there even despite the huge language barrier

>>212528624
it's legal here yet everyone is incel, there is no correlation.

>>212528538
No, it is now illegal in almost all cases. Notice the words:
>ospecificerad publik
The people in the strip club would most likely not fulfill that definition. Best case scenario (for the strip clubs) is that only "private dances" will be banned, but that's unlikely considering the författningskommentar to BrB 6 kap. 12 §. Rättspraxis might have to clarify it though.

>>212528618
why not? who decides what jobs are useful?
it makes people feel better like for example a therapist or a masseur

>>212528563
>paying a whore
>simp
you're a retard

>>212528662
Women want to fuck Chad for free but they'll make Betas pay for it, be it a one-time payment if they're prostitutes, or a years-long financial commitment if they're girlfriends or wives.

>>212528676
Prostitutes exploit mentally ill people. It doesn't help them.

>>212528646
You're given what's essentially a parole officer that holds all your money and you call him when you need anything. It's called "omyndigförklarad". It's reserved for people with downsyndrome and criminals

>all the non-integrated immigrants itt
As our culture has had another kind of women in the situation of performing sexual services (out of desperation) they are bound to have a specific kind of man seeking their services.
That kind of man is not a proud man, knowing what he does is against the cultural norm. He is not seldom violent or intoxicated.
This makes the girls vulnerable.

>>212528657
no and i don't wan't to, but some women evidedently don't have a problem with doing ot and i don't understand why we should stop them from making money out of it

>>212528618
They provide relief to incels like me

>>212528708
Do strip clubs serve as a legal loophole for prostitution like they do in Japan? E.g. Can a stripper in Sweden be paid to give a "private show" for a client in a hotel room, or private room at a strip club?

>>212528774
No.

>>212528737
How long does such a parole last for? Am I allowed to take all of my money out of Sweden?

>>212528719
yes? do you think chad has to pay and beg for crumbs?

>>212528745
>hurrdurr men are evil
shut up simp

>>212528737
Hilarious to imagine a grown up Swedish man calling some state official to beg to borrow his own money for a kebab

>>212528791
How will the authorities know?

>>212528812
Depends on how much money you owe the tax man and courts.
>Am I allowed to take all of my money out of Sweden?
Of course not

>>212528745
>As our culture has had another kind of women in the situation of performing sexual services (out of desperation) they are bound to have a specific kind of man seeking their services.
sweden is not unique, this is how sex work is everywhere.

>>212528709
>who decides what jobs are useful?
The government. We have decided drug dealers are not a useful job and discouraged it with laws. We can do the same with prostitution.

>>212528820
In other cultures it isn't that way. Sexual practices can be less taboo but in Abrahamic cultures that just isn't the case.

>>212528866
>Of course not
So the Swedish government basically robs people on parole

>>212528845
Yes well he shouldn't have tried to profiteer off of crime

>>212528774
I've never seen a strip club in Sweden. It mighty exist in Cuckholm back alleys, but it's not something you just walk past on the street.

>>212517838
im too lazy to change the filename right now

>>212528907
Can a Swedish citizen refuse to engage with any bank in Sweden and keep all of their money as physical cash and gold at their home?

>>212517833
That's good tho, """people""" who pay for generic porn don't deserve access to the internet

>>212528893
No it's held for you untill you've paid off whatever you owe. If you have a lot of money and you can show where it all comes from along with paying back whatever you owe, this doesn't happen. If you're a convicted drug dealer and has to pay lawsuit for the assault you've comitted all while your legit job is working has a barber despite having assets worth $100k, all your shit is frozen
(For example)

>>212528873
I don't think Japanese geishas was too much of a taboo until they came into contact with Abrahamics?
Tribal people also have another ideas about sexual relations. There is no human standard despite how conservative you are.
Thinking about the Abrahamic john types treating geishas like western whores is worrisome.

>>212528962
No job is going to pay you in cash here. It doesn't happen

>>212528876
thats a really retarded argument.
drug dealers are only useless jobs because drugs are illegal and sold on the black market, while selling alcohol at bars or the liquor store is considered useful because it provides tax money.
>>212528888
its always funny when feminists become the strongest proponents of abrahamic values and conservative sexual norms when it comes to prostitution. it's almost like they just wan't to punish male sexuality

>>212529053
Why doesn't it happen? How can your employer pay you if you don't have a bank account?

>>212517740
>only buyers get prosecuted
how can swedish men even look themselves in the mirror? I'd be so embarrassed to be this gay

>>212529076
They can deposit money to socialstyrelsen as a last resort, but this is uncommon.

>>212529076
You're not being hired without having a bank account. Or your employer is goint to demand you get one. They have to be able present all outgoing money for tax reasons always.

>>212529123
It's fake news. It is not true that only buyers get prosecuted. Read >>212527631

>>212529123
i thought canada adopted our prostitution law. it's just the "logical" conclusion of it

>>212529146
>You're not being hired without having a bank account.
Not technically true, but almost everyone has a bank account. You do technically have a right to a "personal account" in Sweden but not a "business account". This is a bit complicated in practice though and you can be refused an account if the bank as enough cause (if you're a criminal).

>>212529146
Can you temporarily set up a bank account just for the purpose of being hired, then close it? Would your job fire you if you did that?
>>212529142
Can criminals access their money that way if their legitimate employers pay them?

>>212529178
nothing about your communist soyciety is logical Erik. Its literally a gay police state

>>212517772
Ofcourse. Women are never held accountable for anything. They're pretty little princesses who don't know any better and must be protected at all costs.

I hate that I was born in this gay feminist shit time.

>>212529055
Opponents are pragmatic knowing what kind of men seeks sexual services here, what signals a superficial cultural change would send to young people and how that would cause a massive cultural impact just hurting them. Change takes time.
We have had excess of resources for just a brief time compared with more sexually liberal cultures. I believe this is what makes the foundation for the differences we still see to this day.

>>212529415
have it occured to you that because of it being illegal it scares away the buyers who are less impulse driven, sociopathic and violent, making the selection of potential customers worse for the prostitutes and also making it harder for them to screen out the psychos?

>>212529595
Yes, it has occurred to me. You are not proposing anything to change it and we don't want the consequences of a swift liberalization. That's democracy.

>>212529692
hookup culture killed abrahamic sexual value anyways, the reason buying sex is illegal is more about women wanting controll over men then it has with christianity.
thats why yonimassage (pussy massage) is tolerated and even considered empowering for women by the media but if some male celebrity is caught getting a penismassage at some thai salon he becomes persona non grata

>>212517695 (OP)
freedom is haram

>>212517695 (OP)
>buy onlyfans stuff is forbidden
>creating onlyfans stuff is allowed
>buyer will get prosecuted
>creators have nothing to fear
???

>>212529692
>>212529876
Sex will never be safe and consequence free. That's something Western liberal societies refuse to grapple and deal with. They want to wrap people in bubble wrap and police their whole sex lives to ensure nobody gets hurt ever. Whether physically or emotionally. That's not how life works.

>>212529876
Imagine if you had a daughter turning 14 not knowing what to ambition for, hating school and discovering the romantic (optimistic) depictions of prostitution. Thinking
>oh boy, how swell! pulling dicks AND getting paid? screw dad's ideas of a decent life,I want to wank cocks and have a false sense of the nice and attractive customers
Then Kashim shows up and has brough his clan and the boomers in the state just think you have failed as a parent or bad genes or whatever. No protection offered.
OR she wanks cocks until hitting the wall at 28 and then just reeks of stale jizz until getting run over by a garbage truck, poor as a rat.

>>212517695 (OP)
Women don't want freedom but a man knowing what's best for her during her emotionally hard times about a week every month from hitting puberty.

>>212531345
That's why we don't consider 14 year olds mature adults who can make their own decisions.
At some point you have to cut the strings and allow people to make their own decisions and face the consequences of those decisions. And what age do you think we should consider someone a mature adult? The reality is people don't all automatically become mature and responsible at an arbitrary number of days after their birth. But for the practical reality of running a civilization and State we have draw a line somewhere. 25 years old? 20? 18?
Do you think women are capable of having agency and making their own decisions and bearing the same responsibility as men? I think a lot of people instinctually/internally do not. That they're somewhere between men and children.
And quite frankly a lot of women don't seem to actually want to have the same level of responsibility every adult man does. They want men to protect them, tell them what to think or do in a crisis, provide for them, etc.
If you think prostitution or any kind of commercialization of sex is a net negative to individuals and society at large than you should just ban it in its entirety. You need to actively stop women who are trying to do it. If you think they have no agency in their actions and are victims fine, but you still have to take action and prevent them from selling sex.

Punishing simps is based.
Swedes know that once a woman goes hoe she will never become a virgin again.
Only usage of that hoe is let her earn money from abroad pay pigs.
Sweden is now literally exporting prostitutes to gain foreign money.
Still it's sad thing that girls going into hoe life rather than wife and mother hood