Thread 212527252 - /int/ [Archived: 476 hours ago]

Anonymous United States
7/7/2025, 9:48:49 PM No.212527252
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>Sabbatai Zevi was an Ottoman Jewish mystic and ordained rabbi from Smyrna

>Active throughout the Ottoman Empire, Zevi claimed to be the long-awaited Jewish Messiah and founded the Sabbatean movement. Central to his teachings was the belief that during the Messianic Age, acts traditionally considered sinful would transform into righteous ones. This antinomian doctrine led Zevi and his followers to deliberately violate Jewish commandments, a controversial practice that later inspired movements like the Frankists.

>Shabbatai also claimed he could fly, but told his followers that he could not do so publicly because they were "not worthy enough" to witness such a sight. He also claimed to have visions of God.

>Another significant event contributed to Sabbatai's reputation in the Jewish community. During the Khmelnytsky Uprising in Poland, a young Jewish orphan named Sarah was discovered by Christians and sent to a convent for care. After ten years, at around sixteen, she escaped—claiming it was through a miracle—and made her way to Amsterdam. Subsequently, she traveled to Livorno, where reports indicate that she led a life of prostitution while also embracing the belief that she would become the bride of the Messiah, whose arrival was thought to be imminent.

>When a report of her adventures reached him, Sabbatai claimed that such a consort had been promised to him in a dream because he, as the Messiah, was bound to fall in love with an unchaste woman. He reportedly sent messengers to Livorno to bring Sarah to him, and they were married at Halabi's house. Her beauty and eccentricity reportedly helped him gain new followers. Through her, a new romantic and licentious element entered Sabbatai's career. The overturning of her past life was interpreted by Sabbatai's followers as further confirmation of his messiahship, following the Biblical story of the prophet Hosea, who had also been commanded to take a "wife of whoredom" as the first symbolic act of his calling.
Anonymous United States
7/7/2025, 9:53:37 PM No.212527375
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>Shabbatai, assisted by his wife, became the community leader and used his power to crush any opposition. He deposed the existing rabbi of Smyrna, Aaron Lapapa, and appointed Chaim Benveniste in his place. Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands were already centres of his messianic movement, and the Jews of Hamburg and Amsterdam learned of the events in Smyrna from Christians.

>At the beginning of 1666, Shabbatai left Smyrna for Constantinople, possibly forced out by city officials. Since Nathan of Gaza had prophesied that, once in Constantinople, Shabbatai would place the sultan's crown on his head, the grand vizier, Köprülüzade Fazıl Ahmed Pasha, ordered Shabbatai's immediate arrest and had him imprisoned, maybe to avoid any doubts as to the power still wielded by the Sultanate.

>The immense sums sent to him by his rich followers, the charms of the queenly Sarah, and the cooperation shown by the Ottoman officials and others enabled Shabbatai to show off almost royal splendor in prison at Abydos. Accounts of his life there were exaggerated and spread among Jews in Europe, Asia, and Africa, and in some parts of Europe, Jews began to unroof their houses and prepare for a new "exodus". In almost every synagogue, Sabbatai's initials were posted. Prayers for him were inserted in the following form: "Bless our Lord and King, the holy and righteous Sabbatai Zevi, the Messiah of the God of Jacob." In Hamburg, the council introduced the custom of praying for Shabbatai not only on Shabbat, but also on Monday and Thursday; unbelievers were compelled to remain in the synagogue and join in the prayer with a loud Amen. Sabbatai's picture was printed with that of King David in most prayer books along with his Kabbalistic formulas and penances.
Anonymous Israel
7/7/2025, 10:00:01 PM No.212527537
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Anonymous United States
7/7/2025, 10:00:21 PM No.212527546
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>Such innovations caused great commotion in some communities. In Moravia, excitement reached such a pitch that the government had to intervene, while at Salé, Morocco, the emir ordered a persecution of the Jews.

>While Sabbatai was in Abydos prison, an incident ultimately led to his downfall. Polish Jewish communities, hearing of Sabbatai's Messianic claim, sent the Kabbalist Nehemiah Ha-Kohen to interview him in his captivity. Nehemiah reached Abydos, after a journey of three months at the beginning of September 1666. The meeting did not go well—Nehemiah declared Sabbatai an impostor.

>Nehemiah went to Constantinople, where he told the Ottomans of Shabbatai's ambitions. The Ottoman vizier gave him three choices: subject himself to a trial of his divinity in the form of a volley of arrows (should the archers miss, his divinity would be proven), be impaled, or convert to Islam.

>On the following day (September 16, 1666), Zevi appeared before the sultan, cast off his Jewish clothing, and put a turban on his head, thereby converting to Islam. Satisfied, the sultan rewarded Shabbatai by conferring on him the title effendi and appointing him as his doorkeeper on a generous salary. Sarah and approximately 300 families among his followers also converted to Islam. Shabbatai was ordered to take a second wife to confirm his conversion. Some days afterwards, he wrote to the community in Smyrna, "God has made me an Ishmaelite; He commanded, and it was done. The ninth day of my regeneration."

>Shabbatai's conversion devastated his followers, and Muslims and Christians alike ridiculed them. Despite his apostasy, many of his adherents still believed in him, claiming that his conversion was a part of the messianic scheme. Those such as Nathan of Gaza and Primo, who were interested in maintaining the movement, encouraged such belief. In many communities, the Seventeenth of Tammuz and Tisha B'Av were still observed as feast days despite bans and excommunications by the rabbis.
Anonymous United States
7/7/2025, 10:01:40 PM No.212527581
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The majority of the worlds Jewish community thought some random jackass who claimed to fly but couldn’t do it in front of other people was the messiah and then he converted to Islam.
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Anonymous United States
7/7/2025, 10:02:57 PM No.212527606
Jews are liars that cope with their constant historical ass whooping. Isreal wouldn't exist without the British and would shrivel without the USA. All of Jewish history is based entirely upon well crafted yet unverifiable lies, which gives an aura of plasauble deniability.
Anonymous Israel
7/7/2025, 10:03:15 PM No.212527615
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i dont think anyone did outside a handful of schizos. the properties of a mashiah are very obvious and undeniable. when the mashiah comes its gonna be very obvious

also this is /his/ not /int/
Anonymous Philippines
7/7/2025, 11:08:30 PM No.212529457
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Anonymous United States
7/8/2025, 12:38:30 AM No.212531860
Now research Jacob Frank.