How do muslims explain this

>>212618076 (OP)
The Sahara used to be fertile grasslands

>>212618101
thousands of years before islam

>>212618076 (OP)
difficult terrain creates strong men

>>212618076 (OP)
and many parts of spain are an arid wasteland, and islam thrived there. it all makes sense

>>212618076 (OP)
Mesopotamua is very fertile and so is the nile.

>>212618076 (OP)
Muhammed was originally Brazilian when he was having his profetic revelations.

>>212618147
it became a desert thousands of years before islam too

>>212618076 (OP)
Indonesia is very fertile thoughever

They genuinely don't care about any of this, they think life and all of its hardships is a test of faith from their god and they'll later be rewarded during their permanent afterlife anyways. Everyone else will be punished for not believing and they get to have their fun right now as an act of mercy from allah

>>212618165
You had your share of fairytale believing, and you would still be believing if it wasn't for us.

You're welcome

>>212618076 (OP)
It's just a big cope...

>>212618076 (OP)
Indonesia, Malaysia and Bangladesh are the opposite

>>212618076 (OP)
How do you explain this?

>>212618076 (OP)
you can't win against religious people, in this case religious muslims. what they would say in this situation is "hey come on life isn't everything, it's just a test, remember?" "well yeah the kuffar were given great lands but they will suffer in the afterlife" but if the situation was different they would praise their version of god for looking after them. you literally can't win, they can claim anything as long as they point to the man in the sky.

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>>212618076 (OP)
muslims are genuinely retarded
I cant understand how they believe in this stupid cult

>>212619420
... is there atleast a declining number of devoutards? Any progress?

>>212618147
It's almost like God knew Islam was going to happen and decided to punish them in advance.

>>212618170
>MEHMET FOR YOUR LOYAL SERVICE I GIVE YOU THESE THREE SHITTY RIVERS TO DESPERATELY CLING TO
>Also I'm giving that degenerate heathen John over there two continent's worth of the best agrarian land in the world just fyi

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>>212619143
it's still a shithole
fuck off

>>212620225
Allah also gave the Ethiopians control the source of the Nile

>>212620262
-Aackkkkkk

>>212620225
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>>212619420
Reminder the Islamic Middle East was the leader in science for hundreds of years while the Christians in Europe were too busy fighting their wars, say what you want about the Middle East today but culturally it’s still superior to modern Europe which I can go on for days about how hedonist and state atheist it became

>>212618076 (OP)
Spain and Portuagal are as green as Anatolia and have been mudslims for HUIT CENTURIES, which is more than Anatolia
Pookistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia are green.
India has also many Pookistanese immigrants, about 180 millions.

>>212619895
it would've been a hell of a lot better without the middle east shenanigans that happened the last 80 years or so, the palestinian stuff included, shit like that just radicalizes people even more. personally, i have no hope for this region, truth be told.

>>212620362
If MENA was superior it'd also be irreligious.
Lack of specific faith indicates progress since people can live nice enough lives without having to cope with thoughts of heaven after death to make up for how shitty their current situation is.

>>212620630
Gaytheist moment
Wait until you realize even Christianity had its scientific days

>>212620698
Nah Secular Jordan, UAE and Bahrain are better places to live than religious Syria and Yemen

>>212619420
I've been to Morocco and it was incredibly Muslim, durka durka at 5am every morning, grim country.

>>212620362
>erm the midddle east is heggin better than DA WEEEEEEEST
>live there… erm no just no

>>212620362
>science for hundreds of years
It hasn't been that for 1500 years howeverbleit
>say what you want about the Middle East today but culturally it’s still superior to modern Europe
If it was you wouldn't have left. That you moved to a culturally European country already tells us all about who is superior.
>which I can go on for days about how hedonist and state atheist it became
So you can go on about a retarded name calling concept without definition (hedonism) and a good thing (state atheism)?

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>>212621020
>conquers Persian high culture
>becomes short time high culture
ooh heckooooorino how dis happen

>>212620470
>shenanigans
Yeah, that was pure western retardation. Thank god the thirst for "intervention" is at an all time low now.

Sensefull cooperation (and curbing illegal migration) could do wonders now

>>212620362
The science in those times was not comparable to the scientific revolution

>>212622195
This is rather retarded

>>212618076 (OP)
im in that area
wtf is an allah?

>>212618147
In living memory there were huge marshlands in Arabia before they drained them all for oil fields.

>>212620362
Then why you don't go back there?

>>212618076 (OP)
You do know there is vegetation within that area too? Why do people think non-forested areas in West Asia and Africa are deserts?

>>212623948
Because it generally is a desert. Bordered is the extent of MENA's habitable land

>>212622085
>Sensefull cooperation
With no real precedent to work off of.
>curbing illegal migration
Basically impossible because it transitions to legal labour as economic growth increases and most people in power against illegal migration in Europe have a very absolutist stance on it. As in ANY regional movement for ANY reason is a potential illegal, so they want specific states to have super rigid borders to kneecap regional migration.

>>212622778
Scientific revolution was a radical shift on how knowledge builds upon itself. It wasn't comparable to copying the compass from chinks

>>212624064
semi-arid deserts and xeric shrublands aren't exactly similar to full on arid deserts

>>212624071
>let me tell you about your countries

>>212618076 (OP)
The Middle East is filled with vegetation though. Only retards think its desert. Also most Muslims are not Middle Eastern in the first place.

>>212624197
I know very little about those geographic/ecological categories, but I do know that 99% of infrastructure/farms/settlements are within those borders. It's fair to use desert in the colloquial way here