Thread 212701753

In Japan they make zainichi take this test at the doctor's office before treating them.
Does this happen in your country?

>>212701753 (OP)
BASED!
fuck the koreans!

>in Poland
we will just reject from hospital if they don't speak Polish

>>212701753 (OP)
This cannot be real

>>212701927
It is and the Japanese defend it saying "but they do do those things!!!"

>>212701753 (OP)
The content is too specific, perhaps using details of past incidents as questions.

>>212701971
good
fuck those cheating shits

>>212701753 (OP)
whats the point of asking the questions in japanese if they can't read it?

>>212701753 (OP)
>tfw you bleed out and die because you didn't get a high enough duolingo level in nipponese before visiting for a 1 week vacation

>>212702451
the doctor's office claims that the purpose of this form is to test their understanding of japanese
why they would use these questions for that reason is a mystery

Why are so many of you retards falling for OP's bait?

>>212702451
>>212702558
I think it's because Japanese hospitals were too defenseless
As a result, patients violated the law and hospitals got angry with the government, patients got away with unpaid medical bills, and patients attacked doctors.

>>212702672
Dumb weeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO3Pd3S9uEI

Incidentally, Chinese and Koreans are familiar with Japanese laws and medical systems, and they sometimes take advantage of Japanese subsidies to receive treatment.
Currently, there is a business of Chinese teaching Chinese patients about loopholes in that law, and for that reason Japan is trying to change the law.

Do you find that foreigners in your countries ever exploit loopholes in the law to abuse subsidies?

>>212701753 (OP)
Why are the answers in English?

>>212703247
>Yes /No
>はい/いいえ
Because of over-familiarity with American culture, Japanese question text often looks like this.
There's also the reason that it's easier to stand out when English is mixed in with Japanese.
But I agree that it would have been more appropriate to put this question entirely in Japanese, as you questioned.

>>212701753 (OP)
Why are the first 2 paragraphs in chinese doe

>>212703812
First we need to tell them what this question is about, and Japan has few Chinese speakers, probably fewer than the number of English speakers (less than 10%).

>>212701753 (OP)
they should do the same things in the US

>>212701753 (OP)
What's the point of this? Cant a zainichi answer no to everything and still do all that stuff?

>>212705235
It's a language test meant to exclude Chinese people, hence the tricky switching between simple and negative questions. Answering any question incorrectly means they won't provide health services.

>>212701753 (OP)
>Do you think patients can freely choose to refuse things like x-rays, braces and medication -
Yes? What are they going to do? Forcibly give me meds?

>>212705662
dishonorable, if doctor noseberg-san says to take the hormone blockers you must take them

>>212705508
It's to distinguish between the Chinese who have migrated legitimately and those who have exploited a loophole.

>>212705884
why do you expect legal immigrants to be more proficient in japanese than illegal immigrants? they are both foreigners.

>>212705936
>Immigrants who studied at universities or language schools or were hired by Japanese companies in recognition of their talents.
>Immigrants who paid contractors and used loopholes to enter the country in order to abuse Japanese subsidies.

unironically all these would be normal in China too.

Japan
>Monthly insurance premiums depend on salary
>All hospitals charge the same price for treatment, and the cost of treatment increases with each additional treatment procedure
>30% co-pay for treatment
>There is a government subsidy to help with high treatment costs
>Treatment costs are paid later

China
>Monthly insurance premiums vary depending on occupation and region
>Excellent doctors and hospitals with advanced equipment have higher treatment costs
>Treatment costs outside the region where you pay insurance are fully self-paid
>For example, if you move from the countryside to an urban hospital, you pay the full treatment cost
>Part of the treatment cost is paid in advance

>>212701753 (OP)
I dont even see a problem with this.
Answer honestly and there won't be any problem if you don't do any of that.
This probably happens extremely often there and it serves as a warning to not do this.

>>212707348
中国は決して日本に比べものになりません
日本が何国よりも憧れます

>>212702885
Foreigners always do stuff like this. While some cultures are just criminal, and that's why their societies are dysfunctional. Couple that with coming to another society with no sense of being part of it and no respect for it, and a way to escape if it goes wrong (go back).

>>212703720
What would be words used in Japanese for such a document

>>212705662
Yea this is strange and I would think illegal.

>>212701753 (OP)
whats the problem here? its just testing the chinese and their japanese proficiency. the doctors obviously dont speak chinese and the person who got the form probably spoke little to no japanese. it's already nice of the hospital to write the top part in chinese desu

>>212708324
>no respect
>tax evasion
The Chinese are well scheduled to flee.
In some cases, they may even do some tax evasion business before returning home.
But they need a large community of their own people to help them do it, and they are very good at building communities in other countries.

>>212701753 (OP)
>Does this happen in your country?
Yes. If you're new to a practitioner, they make you fill out 3 or 4 sheets first. Pre-existing conditions, prior operations, allergies etc. etc. etc. They have to know if you have diabetes, hypertension, cancer or something before they start treatment.

No questions like in your picture, though.

>>212708324
>What would be words used in Japanese for such a document
The word “enquête” (アンケート) is generally used, which is derived from French.
In Japanese, it is “質問票” or "調査票”.

>>212708324
>Yea this is strange and I would think illegal.
There are legitimate reasons for this
>If a patient uses a medical certificate to take an unspecified aid or similar medication that causes physical problems
>If a patient needs urgent medication but refuses it, resulting in worsening of the condition or death
This could happen, so before treatment, the patient must be required to pledge "I will not hold the doctor responsible for any of the above actions.

What's that yes at the second question

It confuses me
Why it's not written はい/いいえ

>>212701753 (OP)
Who the fuck think this is a good idea? Even if you are trying to prevent patients from taking advantage of the system why would you use such a documented confrontational way that will surely cause controversies? I thought doctors are smart.

>>212702885
If they did not break any law then they did nothing wrong. Simple as.

>>212713179
top half is written in mainland chinese.
they tend to be problematic not only in other countries but also in japan.
>If they did not break any law
do you want to see lots of examples here?

>>212701753 (OP)
wtf is this humiliation ritual

>>212701753 (OP)
>that last point
Call me a filthy korean but yes, that is entirely within a patient's rights. Sure, a doctor might claim that he won't be able to treat you in that case but in the end, it's your health.

>>212701927
Never underestimate slanty autism.

>>212713179
Thanks to the Chinese, Japanese laws against foreigners will only become stricter.
>Simple as.

>>212701753 (OP)
>medically necessary
>YOU MUST
for that violation of patient consent their country just dropped down a tier
patients can choose but they'll have to live with the consequences. it's that simple.

Are you thinking, “It doesn't matter what is happening in Japan”?
Please look into the Chinese people in your country.

>>212713179
she will not have sex with you simp

>>212701753 (OP)
japs can't comprehend how insurance works and thinks people are cheating the system if they get healthcare
japs are low iq

>>212701753 (OP)
Japan has fallen
every time I hear anything about Japan nowadays it's just typical 3rd world stuff and Switch 2

>>212701753 (OP)
Japan is known for discrimination against Koreans and Chinese