Thread 212804554 - /int/ [Archived: 346 hours ago]

Anonymous South Korea
7/15/2025, 10:12:14 PM No.212804554
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I was in Brazil last fall.
I just bought dates, Brazil nuts, and 2 small beverage cans at a supermarket and paid 12.16 USD for them.
At a bookstore I scanned the barcode to buy a Brazilian version of my favorite book as a souvenir but it was 14.94 USD and gave up. Even the book was an abridged version and I can buy a complete copy one for 4.6 USD imc.
Why are the prices in Brazil so expensive and who set them that way, The only places where I could eat that were similar to what I would pay for food imc were global fast food chains like McDonald’s or Sukiya and the only ones that felt cheap were haircuts and Uber.
How do people who earn average or minimum wage survive here···
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:19:37 PM No.212804821
>>212804554 (OP)
Books in Brazil are very expensive. Nuts and dates also.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:21:39 PM No.212804900
>>212804554 (OP)
>How do people who earn average or minimum wage survive here
the average brazilian rarely buys dates, nuts or books
Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 10:22:24 PM No.212804931
>>212804554 (OP)
Nuts are expensive because they’re meant for export so no supply and books are expensive because of low supply since Brazilians don’t read, have low IQ and are brown thirdie dogs
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:24:18 PM No.212805006
>>212804554 (OP)
>buying a plane ticket from korea to sao paulo
grim if true
i hope you went to some coastal city with good beaches at least
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:28:28 PM No.212805150
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>>212804554 (OP)
São Paulo is the richest city in Brazil and has multinational companies that tie the wages to international values, hence the high prices of goods in those regions.

Other parts of Brazil have more reasonable prices.

The whole problem with Brazilian economy is that different from São Paulo and other capital cities, there aren't not enough investments to justify bringing in more quality jobs. We were firmly under the USA sphere of influence and South America has no part, but to be a commodity supplier, in a world economy centered at the USA.

But this is changing due to Chinese countering the US influence in the region
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Anonymous United States
7/15/2025, 10:29:38 PM No.212805198
>>212804554 (OP)
>my favorite book
>rich dad poor dad
wtf is wrong with you
Anonymous United Kingdom
7/15/2025, 10:36:17 PM No.212805430
>>212804554 (OP)
>How do people who earn average or minimum wage survive here
They rob tourists to break even
Anonymous Argentina
7/15/2025, 10:40:23 PM No.212805565
>>212804554 (OP)
Hahaha what a shitty taste for books man
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:42:57 PM No.212805661
>>212805150
Brazil is a shithole because of you desu
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:52:30 PM No.212805954
>>212805661
yes, we should all move to the US and ask Trump to make us poor
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:55:29 PM No.212806033
>>212805150
>We were firmly under the USA sphere of influence
Source?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:56:25 PM No.212806061
>>212806033
The US was our only big economic partner until the 2010s
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Anonymous South Korea
7/15/2025, 10:56:30 PM No.212806066
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>>212805006
rsrs obg anon I was in Rio and Floripa. It was a business trip and yea it was so tired from the layover in Texas and going back. Joaquina and Prainha Beaches were nice. I was a surprise at how refreshing the smell of the sea was.
>>212805150
I was definitely not in SP, so I had more questions.
All the cities I went to were tourist destinations but I tried to avoid tourist traps as much as possible and spend money in local neighborhoods but ended up finding out that it was about 1.5 times or twice more expensive than what I would pay imc.
I don't know why that is exactly, since it's absolutely not a desert country with weak distribution or manufacturing.
Even the ordinary buffet I had that seem to target locals was this damn expensive. I feel really weird about forcing usa tier prices···
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:56:52 PM No.212806078
>>212804554 (OP)
It's because we have high import taxes (tariffs) on almost everything
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:57:40 PM No.212806102
>>212804554 (OP)
>Why are the prices in Brazil so expensive and who set them that way
How else will Lula and his wife afford their new couch? Think nigga.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:58:34 PM No.212806128
>>212806066
You were literally on the most luxurious restaurants in those cities lmao. Rio is well known for being a huge tourist trap and overcharging foreigners. No ordinary brazilian would pay 360 reais for a buffet lmao
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 10:59:06 PM No.212806152
>>212806061
Are we now "firmly in the Chinese sphere of influence" then?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:00:01 PM No.212806177
>>212806152
It's more like 60-40, the US still has an edge because the dollar is the reserve currency of the world and they have the biggest navy in the world
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:00:11 PM No.212806181
>>212806102
Lula has nothing to do with what is Brazilian law. Why do some people like to pretend he invented this?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:01:02 PM No.212806199
>>212806078
>>212806102
Yes, that is why we must open our market to the USA and accept Trump's tariffs, destroying our economy will make us richer
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:01:27 PM No.212806212
>>212806177
So are we firmly in their sphere or they just have an edge? What is it?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:01:35 PM No.212806215
>>212806066
>R$1000,00 in a meal
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!
If you paid 1/10 of that it would still be too much.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:02:08 PM No.212806233
>>212806212
Yes, geopolitics is like math everything is set in stone
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:02:37 PM No.212806251
>>212806212
Nigga, he said we were in the past and now we're split. Stop being dumb.
Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:03:24 PM No.212806267
Is it true poor people in the countryside have no housing cost because they can just put three bricks together and call it a house in the tropical climate?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:04:29 PM No.212806306
>>212806181
Yes, he's not the head of the party that has been making laws, naming judges, and governing the country for the last 20 years. He's innocent, he's never done anything wrong, and everything that goes wrong is not his fault.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:05:28 PM No.212806333
>>212806306
Yes, that is why Trump must destroy our economy for Bolsonaro.
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Anonymous Sweden
7/15/2025, 11:05:58 PM No.212806354
>>212806078
But you don't produce your own consumer goods? You export foods, chemicals and some high end machinery like planes and boats. What industries are you protecting with tarriffs?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:06:00 PM No.212806356
>>212806066
>that pic
is this a very elaborate bait thread? kek
also in the OP you said you went to sukiya but as far i know they only have stores in sao paulo
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:07:49 PM No.212806416
>>212806354
No we don't produce anything, that is why we must open our market for the USA and reelect Bolsonaro
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:07:54 PM No.212806419
>>212806333
Don't worry, Lula will save us from US influence by selling Brazil to China, and eventually your mother will not need to whore herself out to pay your internet bill anymore.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:08:19 PM No.212806430
>>212806354
Most consumer goods in Brazil are made here
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:09:20 PM No.212806460
>>212806306
>the party that has been making laws
Tell me one time that party held a majority in congress. Just one time
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:11:42 PM No.212806533
>>212806460
Have you ever heard of Mensalão? Besides, you must be really stupid not to consider other factors like the Senate, the PGR, the STF etc. Not everything revolves around the Chamber of Deputies (where having the majority is very difficult indeed).
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:12:04 PM No.212806544
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>>212806419
Funny as recently Trump and Bolsonaro has done more to approach us to China than Lula

Bolsonaro and the US are literally this dumb. All the brazilian elites are literally rallying under Lula due to it
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Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:12:25 PM No.212806551
>>212806267
Answer pls
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:13:12 PM No.212806577
>>212806066
OK, that's a bait thread.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:13:58 PM No.212806604
>>212804554 (OP)
>Why are the prices in Brazil so expensive
taxes

>Brazilians work five months a year to support the State; the burden has doubled in half a century

https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/economia/brasileiro-trabalha-cinco-meses-ano-pagar-impostos/
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:14:06 PM No.212806610
>>212806533
Yes, due to corruption in the former decade, we must flee to the USA and ask the US government to tariff the economy and make the local population poorer.

It's only fair
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:14:29 PM No.212806621
>>212806267
No
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:15:31 PM No.212806653
>>212806066
I've never paid more than 200 reais in a restaurant.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:15:33 PM No.212806656
>>212806354
it's cheaper to export things, less taxes
so, the nuts we gather here are more expensive here than in Sween, as an example
Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:16:34 PM No.212806696
>>212806621
They still have to pay for housing? How they do it? Lower tier Brazilian salaries barely cover food and utilities.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:16:39 PM No.212806698
>>212806533
The Brazilian economy was much more restrictive before the 1990s, I guess that was the PT's fault all along and all other Brazilian politicians disagree with the national policy on taxes but the PT keeps them down somehow
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:17:28 PM No.212806730
>>212806544
China literally gave up on the trade thing and bent the knee to the USA, though
apparently, so did Lula
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:17:39 PM No.212806735
>>212806544
>all the brazilian elites are literally rallying under Lula due to it
I've seen spokespeople from BTG pactual saying on open that Lula's government should negotiate with Trump and not retaliate. If you think the Faria Lima, full of globalists like André Esteves, cares about "national sovereignty," you'll have a sad surprise in 2026's election.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:17:49 PM No.212806738
>>212806696
Most Brazilians in the interior own their own homes.
Construction is cheap and so is food - nobody eats Brazil nuts here.
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Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:17:54 PM No.212806740
>>212806577
Not necessarily, tourists have spending habits completely different from locals and squids are very naive people.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:18:30 PM No.212806752
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>>212806698
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:20:12 PM No.212806805
>>212806735
Negotiating with Trump is different from accepting the tariffs or to stop the trial of Bolsonaro
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:20:14 PM No.212806809
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>>212806696
The vast majority of Brazilians own their houses. A basic basket of food costs 63.7% of the minimum wage
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Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:20:22 PM No.212806816
>>212806738
But the best jobs are along the coast, or why do people move there and pay much more?
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Anonymous United States
7/15/2025, 11:21:18 PM No.212806847
>>212806752
Lula da Silva looks demonic
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:22:30 PM No.212806887
>>212806356
>>212806577
https://www.tripadvisor.com.br/Restaurant_Review-g303506-d983060-Reviews-Restaurante_Marius_Degustare-Rio_de_Janeiro_State_of_Rio_de_Janeiro.html

zoomer não sabe pesquisar no Google?
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Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:23:06 PM No.212806910
>>212806809
Yeah but to own it you have to buy it. And stuff. From the looks of it, it seems like many houses in Brazil are self-constructed.

Can you really survive a month on €100? Probably yes, but sounds difficult, even with lower prices. Lots of rice + beans and little meat.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:24:35 PM No.212806960
>>212806740
1kg of prime beef - 45 reais
1kg of chicken - 17 reais
1kg of pork - 20 reais
1kg of fish - 20 reais

5kg of rice - 20 reais
1kg of beans - 6 reais

Fruit is ridiculously cheap
Vegetables too

The guy showed me a 1,000 reais bill at a restaurant.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:24:57 PM No.212806972
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>>212806847
Yes, it's the divine duty of Trump to tariff our economy and make us poor until Bolsonaro is back in power

God Bless America
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:25:18 PM No.212806984
>>212806910
Most Brazilians dont live in self made huts or slums if that's what you are thinking. Poor people get housing through government programs or by living with other people, usually extended family
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:26:27 PM No.212807020
>>212806887
I've eaten 10 times at Paola Carosella's restaurant and I've never paid that.
He's fallen for the biggest scam in history.
This is clearly not for the regular population.
Anonymous United States
7/15/2025, 11:26:49 PM No.212807034
>>212806972
shut the fuck up mexican
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:28:34 PM No.212807094
>>212806887
caralho hein você é burro pra caralho
eu sei que esse restaurante existe e é caro seu animal imbecil
o que isso tem a ver com o meu post e com o que o OP falou? só vai nele quem quiser existem milhares de outras opções
Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:30:01 PM No.212807141
>>212806984
> Poor people get housing through government program
Cool, doesn’t happen in firstie countries, ever. If you mean they get it straight as property, not subsidized rentals.

But middle earner Brazilians probably seethe about that they have to pay for the very same building while the neighbor got it through his taxes.
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Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:31:18 PM No.212807191
>>212806960
Yeah that’s 3x cheaper than here. Albeit depends on the store of course.
Anonymous South Korea
7/15/2025, 11:31:29 PM No.212807199
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>>212806128
>>212806215
Did I fall for traps too···?
I went to Japanese restaurants twice because the prices seemed reasonable for dinner. never thought I'd be eating raw fish on the other side of the world
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:32:48 PM No.212807232
>>212807141
The average Brazilian seethes at corruption scandals more than anything.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:32:53 PM No.212807237
>>212806816
That's why Favela is an urban phenomenon, because it has migrated densely to metropolitan cities in search of work. And the Favela allowed citizens to buy bricks and build their houses anywhere.
That's the reality, a lot of people from the countryside who fell for the bait and ended up with a life worse than in the countryside.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:34:28 PM No.212807279
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>>212807199
is it normal for korean males to have fingers like this?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:34:59 PM No.212807301
>>212807199
The right one is ok. But expensive too. But is ok, the left isn´t ok.
Japanease food is expensive anyway.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:35:41 PM No.212807328
>>212807279
Yes, he is clearly not a shill trying to raise the topic of the cost of life of middle-class brazilians to justify opening the market to the USA
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/15/2025, 11:36:21 PM No.212807351
>>212804554 (OP)
>How do people who earn average or minimum wage survive here···
Probably the same way people on minimum wage do here - with gibs. My parents get top-ups from the government to cover housing costs because they earn so little money.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:37:08 PM No.212807379
>>212807199
I've eaten out with my brother and his wife for R$150 when I was in São Paulo in 2019. Surely prices aren't THAT much more expensive. Although you are in Rio and I assume downtown. We went to a restaurant in a more middle class area.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:37:41 PM No.212807398
>>212807351
>>212806960
It's a Brazilian trying to make a political topic out of cheap bait.
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:38:19 PM No.212807417
>>212807328
fuck off paid shiller schizo
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:38:55 PM No.212807431
>>212807199
>premium tuna
>17 pieces

KEK
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:42:23 PM No.212807559
>>212806816
Nowadays we don't have a lot of people moving to big costal cities. This is in part because municipalities receive massive funds from the federal government and this benefits small towns the most. Many of them have their economy completely reliant on the public sector. You might ask why people dont move anyway for prospects of a "better future" and the answer is that Brazil is very grim on career aspect, people just want to earn enough to get by and those people are surviving just fine with given/subsidized housing, cash transfers, local economy propped up by public admin etc. Even though there are public universities everywhere and relatively close to most people living in the countryside, they are very competitive and the majority will never have a college degree. In the majority of states over 40% of Brazilians work in informal jobs.

>>212807141
Poor people straight up receive housing. Average income people can get government subsidies.
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Anonymous United States
7/15/2025, 11:44:25 PM No.212807623
>>212806972
I hate Trump and his cult of supporters
Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:48:36 PM No.212807741
>>212804931
bro confused supply and demand and has the nerve to reference low IQ
lmao even
Anonymous Germany
7/15/2025, 11:51:48 PM No.212807821
>>212807559
Hm now I get why the Brazilians I met complained about the country being “too socialist” first and foremost, it sounds even more socialist than the comparatively very socialist Western European countries.

It wouldn’t ever be tolerated here that poor people get housing gifted at the expense of middle income people that have to mortgagecuck/rentcuck, or that whole regions live off of government jobs primarily.

But then, Brazil has extremely high income inequality, so in the end, there’s still some few extremely high paying jobs in comparison.
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:58:43 PM No.212808034
>>212807821
>Hm now I get why the Brazilians I met complained about the country being “too socialist” first and foremost
It only feels "too socialist" when you don't consider that we live in the periphery of the world with a massive territory with a fraction of the foreign investment that Europe or other first nations receive.

To help the poor achieve their ends is actually a need to stabilize the nation and keep social cohesion under extreme poverty and social inequality that South America and the peripherical nations of the world have to deal with.

The neoliberal agenda that the USA pushes will literally tear our social fabric apart and break our nation apart. And that is precisely what happened in the 1990s where the neoliberal agenda was in full effect and poverty and inequality skyrocketed which led to direct the government policies towards a more welfare oriented state.

Then with social cohesion it's possible to actually build a nation from the bottom to top
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Anonymous Brazil
7/15/2025, 11:59:20 PM No.212808055
>>212807821
In Brazil everyone pays because most tax revenue comes from consumption taxes. Only 35% of the economically active population pay income taxes and the government wants to reduce this number much further by exempting most payers and advancing their platform of taxing the wealthy. So yeah the more well off people obviously are paying for all of that but even the poors themselves are contributing with 20% when they buy their own food and things
Anonymous Brazil
7/16/2025, 12:01:47 AM No.212808140
>>212808034
We no longer have extreme poverty with all those gibs though. Only very poorly informed people and some mentally ill homeless aren't collecting benefits
Anonymous United Kingdom
7/16/2025, 12:13:26 AM No.212808496
>>212804554 (OP)
Baffling to see a Richard Osman book for sale in Brazil
Anonymous Brazil
7/16/2025, 1:33:44 AM No.212810535
>>212804554 (OP)
Please tell me you impregnated at least one of our women (with your erect penis).
Anonymous Brazil
7/16/2025, 1:43:16 AM No.212810790
brasileiro quando vê fio sobre o brasil parece mosca quando vê bosta