>americans think that states are like countries because theyre big

They are culturally different

>>212809797
oh yeah they eat the mc chulver instead of big mac nice culture LOL

federationlets wouldn't understand

>>212809754 (OP)
It's a cringe trope. However USA is more culturally diverse within itself than a European country is.
>muh dialects
Not enough.

>>212809754 (OP)
Well no, US states are much more economically integrated than European countries. We aren't boxed in by language, and people move between states far more than people do in the EU.

This is a massive advantage that the United States has, I don't know why you imply its a bad thing.

>>212810218
eu isnt a country lil bro

>>212810218
>This is a massive advantage that the United States has
Yeah it makes the line go up. But it's also destroyed regionalism and made us all mutts. It also causes boom/bust cycles where natives get raped by transplants.

>>212810103
There's no way Americans actually believe this. You are literally all the same. That's the point of your country, taking in a bunch of different ethnicities and grinding them all down into the same american paste. The only exceptions are blacks and spics, but blacks are biologically like that anyway and spics are foreign invaders.

>>212809754 (OP)
Alaska is 5.5 times larger than Poland, five and a half Polands,>>212809797
imagine that

>>212809754 (OP)
Our states have their own laws and provide lots of government services but they don't have very many cultural/language differences and there are far less regulatory barriers to selling products made in one state in another state than in Europe (or Canada).

>>212810297
Wrong on all accounts

>>212810293
>boom/bust cycles where natives get raped by transplants
awesome

>>212810290
Yeah exactly, and that's a bad thing.

>>212809754 (OP)
Large, populated, culturally distinct, and economically developed on their own, with their own governments.
The average US state is more relevant to itself and to the world as a whole than the average EU member state is.

>>212810297
British culture - eat Indian food and drink Indian tea at six bong, complain about everything Americans do that made your country successful, pine after everything your country used to do that made it shit for yourself and everywhere you conquered, mistake Marxist drivel for your cultural identity, apolojuice to whoever most recently blew up your trains.

>>212809754 (OP)
Why are Europeans proud of having to speak a different language after driving 45 minutes?

>>212810363
literally drivel

>>212810340
Right on all accounts. White Americans (real Americans) barely vary at all from state to state.
>b-but new jersey wops
are delusional cosplayers.

>>212810293
>a common tongue is to blame for what has been happening ceaselessly since before agriculture
American education.
>>212810430
I accept your concession, seethemaxxer.
>>212810436
On the other hand white bongs act either white, muslim, or mindlessly emulate US gangster rappers to a pathetic cringe degree. Wow, if only I could be more like that.

>>212809754 (OP)
People say this about Americans but the UK is by far the worst offender on this.

>area is the only thing that's bigger

LMAO at this thread

>>212810457
you just said a bunch of lies with no evidence to back it up lol

>>212809754 (OP)
Are they not?
There's more cultural diversity in Wyowa than in all of Eastern Europe

>>212810411
Not reading all that seethe paco

>>212810457
>>a common tongue is to blame for what has been happening ceaselessly since before agriculture
you literally just made the argument that america is more integrated and people move between states "far more"
now you are making the argument that it's all the same

>>212810463
England has several rogue states operating in its borders

>>212810498
Not legally but yes culturally. The law. Trade and want for privacy only unite. Everything grows from them like language or laws lol but culturally yeah Maine and Texas are different culturally to the extreme

>>212810436
Actually compare a Pennsylvanian German vs an Anglo-Texan

Different religion, politics, food, music, ideology, civic sensibilities, economics, they even differ in ethnicity and accent

Trust me, America is a little bigger than you think

>>212810631
>Pennsylvanian German vs an Anglo-Texan
they dont exist though
theyre both american

>ask a foreigner to do an American accent
>it’s always something from the Texas-Arkansas-Louisiana triangle

>>212810457
It's funny that you think I'm trying to insult Americans by saying that your culture doesn't vary that much from state to state. I'm not saying that Americans don't have culture, I'm just saying that your claim that the USA is more culturally diverse is bullshit.

>>212810662
America is not monolithic

>>212810631
>Different religion, politics, food, music, ideology, civic sensibilities, economics, they even differ in ethnicity and accent
this is a lie, you all look the same, sound the same and eat fast food, and have some retarded christianity cults

>>212810631
>Pennsylvanian German
no such thing
>Anglo-Texan
no such thing

I'm sure they vary in ethnicity and accent.

The only reasonable opinion to have:
>USA is more culturally diverse than UK or France or Germany
>USA is less culturally diverse than Europe as a whole, or even just the EU

>>212810775
youre delusional if you think that if americans are more diffrent from eachother than france which had 1000 dialects before napoleon

The federal system also means that states have quite a bit of power on their own. Technically federal law supersedes state law, but if enough states ignore it, it doesn’t matter in many cases (see marijuana legalization)

>>212810599
You can have multiple completely different races in a single person, meanwhile what do Eastern Yuroes have? Just different flavours of Russian all around

>>212810813
they dont though lol
its just made up bullshit, the govt can force them to do anything

>>212810631
>Pennsylvanian German vs an Anglo-Texan
They both voted Trump, they both drink the same beer, they both love Shane Gillis, they both watch the NFL, they both use the same slang...the only difference is a very slight change in accent.

State cultural differences used to be much more pronounced but in modern times most of you are culturally the same. America underwent a deliberate cultural conglomeration over the last 100 years similar to that of post-revolutionary France and mainland China.

>>212810775
>USA is more culturally diverse than UK or France or Germany
yea no shit. because it's several hundred magnitudes bigger and sparsely populated.

>>212810803
Dialects, sure, but European countries (generally) have a specific religious heritage, specific cultural heritage, and specific ethnicity (or cluster of ethnicities)

>>212810889
I said it was a reasonable opinion

>>212810928
americans have no culture and ethnicity though??? you’re all mutts and dont get me started on religion, nobody cares about that in 2025 in your country

>>212810803
Differences in language create differences in mutual perception between groups, but I don’t think it actually affects mannerisms in the euro case that much. Med euros are broadly similar. eastern euros as well. nordics form another group. Yet all of these are linguistically diverse.

A conservative white evangelical in rural Louisiana is very different from a San Francisco chinese Buddhist. They’ll both know English and certain common national “memes” but their worldviews will be radically different. Far more than the difference between a Madridian and a Parisian, or even a rural gallego and a parisian.

>>212810861
State power has vastly eroded from 1776 but each state still has far more power than the typical province of a euro country.

Diversity is our strength euro-chuds
We're not homogenous bugs like you guys

>>212810889
>White america has more cultural diversity than the country with glaswegians, highlanders, taffs, scousers, geordies, mancs, cockneys, brummies, poshos etc
yeah nah

>>212810975
>A conservative white evangelical in rural Louisiana is very different from a San Francisco chinese Buddhist.
theyre not though
theyre both american
>Med euros are broadly similar. eastern euros as well. nordics form another group
wrong lol

>dude im so unique because uhhh my political opinion on twitter and uhhhh skydaddy
americans actually believe this

>>212811135
Culture is not politics

>>212809754 (OP)
US states are actually technically different countries from each other. Hence state sovereign immunity, interstate extradition, etc.
We think of america as bein g a singular country but it was designed by the founders as being a patchwork of different countries all jammed together.
If I had to make a guess based on nothing but intuition, I would assume that the modern belief in national unity is probably a product of world war/ cold war propaganda

>my town of shanpooopxia should seccede from shartschoolshooterry because they disresoected jd vance in twitter, i have nothing in common with those californians!
this is what 200 years of manufactured culture looks like

>>212811174
>US states are actually technically different countries from each other
they literally arent
theyre in the same country lol
wont even read the rest of your post

>>212811215
>I don't want to read neat facts about history and law, I want to be mad on the internet
well alright then, good talk

>>212811267
theyre not facts
theyre your opinion

Poland is banned from becoming the 51st state

>>212809754 (OP)
Unitedstatians arr rook same

>>212811295
>the constitution is your opinion
huh

>>212810419
Languagelet alert!!!

>>212811390
>i win if i randomly bring up the constitution!!!!!!!!

>>212809754 (OP)
american states are more soverign than EU countries are

>>212811449
>The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

Kansas City isn't even in Kansas how retarted is that?

>>212811554
It's on the Kansas river so it's fine

>>212811522
still not a country

>>212811554
There's a Kansas City, Kansas across the river

>>212809754 (OP)
i have the choice to live between like 30+ world class cities
in european countries you get like 3-5
tough choice

States in the union have more sovereign power than member countries of the EU.

>>212811589
Please explain the doctrine of state sovereign immunity to the thread, and explain why it doesn't prove that individual states are technically sovereign countries.
Non-responsive replies and chatGPT answers will both be deemed concessions.

>>212811644
No they aren't, states can't have their own militaries and don't have their own currency

>>212811650
because states arent countries sweetie !

european dialects are all dead, this is a larp kek

i even heard european zoomers talking to each other in half english when i was over there

why's jakub so mindbroken today

>>212811650
you're a retard who doesn't understand what a country is.
States are a federal entity. They have constitutionally protected powers, but that doesn't make them a country.

For the record, Scotland also isn't a country.

>>212811701
>ad hominem
i win

>>212811679
Nah, Europeans still cling to their languages despite the fact that it would be more economically efficient to have more linguistic unity

>>212811750
wrong, zoomerspeak is half english at this point

>>212811704
>States are a federal entity.
Under the doctrine of american federalism, the federal government is an entity that exists at the mercy of states. That's why only it was the subject of the constitution and the bill of rights (until we got 14A incorporation doctrine)
>They have constitutionally protected powers
No, they don't. The constitution enumerates only the things the federal government is allowed to do. The Bill of Rights, again until 14A incorporation doctrine, only told the federal government what it could not do