Poland is dying
How to save beloved Poland?

>>212849250 (OP)
Stricter immigration policies. Tighter borders.

>>212849250 (OP)
I can volunteer to impregnate as many Polish women as I can.

>>212849250 (OP)
why is poland having this problem

>>212849250 (OP)
Install more toilets locally so the plumbers stay at home.

>>212849250 (OP)
Looser immigration policies. Open borders.

>>212849960
Poland has the largest diaspora in Europe. Many end up staying for decades or never return at all. + low birthrates and an aging population

>>212849250 (OP)
Zamn, maybe they really are firsties now

Good, maybe Ukraine can get its land back that the Poles stole from us.

Can someone explain to me why population decline is bad and must be compensated with immigration?
More free jobs means wages would rise. Rents and living costs would sink. I see only benefits in a smaller population.
Or am I too low IQ to see the bigger picture?

>>212850891
The rich will make less money from speculation duh

>>212850891
pensions

>>212850891
More old people=more pensions
Less young people=less money for pensions
Short-term solution=raise retirement age

>>212850891
Mr. Shekelberg will lose lots of money
And Government will have to pay pension to a lot of old fucks

>>212850233
Why arent you fighting Poteen?

>>212850891
You fail to see the bigger picture. Skewed population pyramid means very bad pensions (tolerable if you are young) and dogshit overburdened public healthcare systems (i.e. most of the EU), because it's the elderly who consume disproportionate amount of healthcare services. If you think the current waiting lists for docs are bad, wait for the times when for every pensioner there will be only 1,5 working adult.

>>212850891
workers' taxes not only need to cover social services for themselves but also retirees who don't work. with currently birthrate trajectories the options are:
A. decrease benefits for retirees (too reliable of a voting bloc to piss off)
B. increase taxes on workers (too many voters in raw numbers to piss off)
C. make breeding more attractive (hard, even sweden giving 2 year paid vacation for a baby isn't enough)
D. import workers (easy)

>>212851082
Importing workers is not simply easy but it also depresses wages and inflates the value of assets. Amazing things if you own a business or real estate, and pensioners who are also the largest voting block tend to be homeowners more often than anyone else. Plus, let's be honest, big money and businesses dictate politics. Immigration is an incredibly attractive thing if you are a politician, just too many good things packed in one

>>212850891
even if we didn't have the pension system, a society that has more elderly people than young people is just very unhealthy.

Bump

>>212849250 (OP)
Immigration obviously

>>212849250 (OP)
give free little girl to every single male, problem solved xD

>>212849250 (OP)
we don't
the line does not need to go up
cities do not need to be overpopulated
property prices do not need to be on a constant growth

>>212852666
How will Poland deal with massively increased pensioners?

>>212849250 (OP)
More migration from India will fill Poland's vacancies

>>212852922
they don't care

>>212849250 (OP)
saar I have the solution.

>>212850999
Good thing you are importing permanent pensioners to combat the worsening working adult ratio

>>212850891
Basically boomers. They are a lot and didn't have many children so they are a ticking time bomb for every western country. After they all die there should be no problems because even if millennials or zoomers have 1,5 kids we won't be enough to crush the working age population of 2060

>>212853189
Reminder that they atopped the global economy to save boomers from covid death

Polish girls need BBC

>>212849250 (OP)
How, don't they have 1 million Ukies? Or did they already move to Germany, lol?

>>212850891
>Can someone explain to me why population decline is bad
It's something that has been known since Babylonian times. What needs explaining?

>>212849250 (OP)
Seggs with hot polish women. But for whites only.

>>212853280
Slavic women's nightmare

>>212852922
probably same as us, increase the pension age to just below the average life expectancy

>>212853280
Polish women are BBC only

>>212850891
Even not taking into consideration aging of the population, it's more profitable to pay gibs to unemployed than to have a workforce deficit, the latter just kills any business growth

>>212853280
>But for whites only.
Mass female suicide in Eastern Europe

What if we made old pensioners stateless and expelled them from our borders?

>>212849250 (OP)
Relax immigration policies
Open borders

>>212853352
Well women should suffer just a little bit during sex, they like it after all.

>>212853399
It's not an unknown practice and it's called geronticide

So is there any way to run a society/country that isnt based on constant population growth?

>>212853616
You would need a perfect and constant 2.1 or 2.2 birth rate and to make sure pensioners to worker ratio never goes above 1/3 ideally 1/4

>>212852922
There won't be any pensions simple as, I'm already saving for retirement on my own, got enough money for 7 years right now

>>212849250 (OP)
FUCK old people

>>212853691
I'm saving myself already, I'm assuming I'll have 40 years to save until I retire (hopefully less). But what worries me is my mom, she hasn't saved a dime and will be fully dependant on whatever is left of the public pension system in 15 years.
Or maybe by then we will already be dead because of AI so who knows.

>>212850999
that's why both pensions and healthcare should be privatized

>>212853774
What will happen will follow shitaly: 1 year waiting list for your not life threatening scan (or 2 weeks if you pay 500 euros to privates) while the 85 years old gets pumped full of drugs and undergoes expensive treatment to keep hit alive till 92 (he went senile at 80)

>>212849250 (OP)
we are the largest population country in EU that doesnt pad its stats with migration. Exclude migrants and Germany has the largest population drop

>>212850999
This should be offset by progress in productivity. But neither the worker, nor the government sees any benefits from this, so in the end it all goes back to "line must go up" and "Shekelberg will make less money"

>>212849250 (OP)
idk

>>212849960
echos of WWI and II
every 20-30 you have dip and spike of fertility rate caused by people missing in the demographics and waiting for war to end to start having kids.

population decline is also massively improving economy because the human capital not put into kids can be used for GDP growth
instead of government investing into schools and families buying more food and clothes for kids, the money could be instead invested into industry subsidies and buying stocks
lowering fertility rate is by far the easiest way to rapidly boost your economy

this rapidly rising economy combined with inflation monetary policies raises cost of living, so you cannot afford more kids because reality market and cost of living is rising faster than wages for most people and the whole system gets into feedback loop
less kids => booming economy => less kids

>>212853616
yeah. have a society where productivity improves with technology.

>>212849250 (OP)
BBC

>>212849250 (OP)
This is a good thing as long as the government won't ruin it with mass migration, but unfortunately it will, already does

>>212850233
hivan what are you even on about

>>212852922
launch them into space

>>212850891
line might go down

>>212853380
ironic cuckshit is still cuckshit
kys

Thought they were le based and trad Catholic nation?

>>212849250 (OP)
import more jeets and nigs (rubs my hand together)
>>212850891
its not, but someone behind door wants you to think that it is.

>>212855727
your shithole is the same, but nobody knows it exists so it doesnt make headlines

Good thing with these summer temperatures we'll be dead in 20 years here :^)

>>212849250 (OP)
Sharp economic growth, sharp population decline.
Gee that sounds familiar.

>>212849960
Severe BBC shortage.
Please help

e>>212852922
Why do boomers always assume that they DESERVE high pensions and the whole government must think how to ensure that they receive that?

They just won't get a dime if they didn't save it themselves, simply.

>>212849250 (OP)
Why save Poland if Poles clearly don't want to breed? you cannot save anyone against his will

>>212855727
the only true trad christian nation in Europe is Finland with its laestaedian population

>>212856072
proud in being a known subhuman

>>212849250 (OP)
improve incentives

>>212849250 (OP)
Population decline is a good thing.

>>212850891
The problem isn't a smaller population, it's elderly atheists who can't accept death because they think it's eternal.

>>212849960
Liberalism and decline of religion.

>>212849250 (OP)
wow they really speedran the firstie experience

>>212849960
The first world curse.

>>212860284
This. I used to read pre-war Polish newspapers and back then they debated how to lower fertility rate in Poland because every woman had like 6 kids and it caused huge political and economic problems. Btw, this experience told me that already in the 1930s there was scientific consensus that the higher living standards are the fewer children are born, while chuds are only discovering this relation now

>>212856570
i'm coming

>>212850891
politicians in general are heavily invested in real estate

they need my bbc to breed their ugly square headed whorish women

>>212850891
everyone keeps mentioning pensions but the real issue is entitled old cunts who want to squeeze as much as they can out of the government because they are are selfish cunts who dont give a fuck about the next generation
like look at italy, many people have retired at like 50-55, they own their house or apartment, they dont have any expenses (as in taxes etc) and their pensions are pretty fine. meanwhile young italians cannot start their life and many of them still live with their parents at like 30 and cannot find a job either

the problem is boomers, quite possibly the worst generation that has ever existed and the first one in the world probably that does not care about the next generation at all and still thinking about what little juice they can squeeze out of taxpayers at the age 75

>>212861504
this is a major flaw of democracy but i don't know how you could fix it, i mean ideally polticans would just take the boomer votes and then do what is right for the most people rather than just boomers they never do that.

>>212850233
>ukrainian
>escaped to the US
you are a nigger oligarch's son. no one in your home country likes you.

>>212861329
what the fuck is that flag? walmart?