Why do meds and eastern euros refuse to grow up?

>>212878607 (OP)
I'm in the 30% of Italians

It's a mix of cultural and economic reasons. I'm pretty sure that lots of young people would actually move out but can't afford paying 1500 euro rent per month when salaries are so shit

shut up bitch. you try spending 60% of your salary on rent.

>>212878607 (OP)
It doesn’t make sense to move out unless you have a partner to live with. Why else would you move out and pay rent anyway?

>>212878607 (OP)
Northern euros be like
>yeah I'm 28, still in bachelor studies, changed my major again to pornography

why try so hard to be a cold taxmaxxing krakka goy when mommy loves me and takes care of basic things

>>212878842
>changed my major again to pornography
What are you yapping about bro?

>>212878721
Do they not date?
Would you want to clap cheeks with your parents in the house?

>>212878948
photography, autocorrect

>>212878976
you would do the cheek busting when your parents are at work
or in the car with newspapers covering the windows like italians do

>>212878842
What? Most people finish their studies by 23-24 and start working before age 25.

>>212878607 (OP)
The Nordics are the only normal ones

>>212878976
50% of young men are incel

okay this thread presents some solid points, but has a big black nigro ever tongued your einos
didn't think so
sometimes you must simply contend with the fact that your einos will remain untongued by a voluminous thoroughly-pigmented individual
not in the comfort of your own dwelling
not even when your parents have vacated the premises of their own
and you must simply suck it on and just move on

https://vocaroo.com/1b9VyDIqzJhZ

oops
suck it up*

>>212878607 (OP)
Because rent prices here are fucking insane and our wages are dogshit.

Meds and slavs mog us nordcucks on this issue 'albeit

>>212878607 (OP)
Mostly non whites live at home
Whites dont suffer

>>212878721
So true>>212878976
If you’re not getting laid why work

>>212878607 (OP)
I loathe giving money to landlords, I find it immoral, like I'm giving money to a bunch of parasites, this guy has a property and can profit passively from it, while I need to work to give the hard earned cash to the human version of a tapeworm.

We should unironically copy the soviet housing system and give apartments FOR FREE to young people, imagine all the capital that would be freed to be invested in economically useful things (be it starting companies/businesses or just more consumer spending, etc) instead of giving so much wasted capital to leeching boomers

>>212879314
it's clearly more than 70% in the balkans

>>212878695
>try spending 60% of your salary
thats what our gubberment take away from us monthly to fund eu and raepfugees

>>212878607 (OP)
i dont get it why westerners reject traditional family value. It's totally normal for several generations to live under the same roof and support each other. My family has been here since the 1900s, on the same plot of land

>>212878607 (OP)
A mix of poverty and culture.

I wonder what the nordic pertentage would be without any gibs for housing

>>212878607 (OP)
Give me money.

>>212878607 (OP)
I was very pro-western style "move out as soon as possible", but after marriage and having a child I moved back in with my parents. It's just way easier on all of us to live together and help each other. More money stays in the family, the kid gets 24/7 attention, my parents aren't lonely like most older people are. I think moving out early is a trap

>>212878607 (OP)
It's called being based, wagecuck.

>>212878607 (OP)
Because they have hot moms.

>>212878607 (OP)
>>212882138
If anything there's less incels here.

Also for anyone who gives me the "it's muh housing" the reason people don't have children can scratch that off the list too since nordic countries have solved housing and are still way below replacement level.

>>212878976
Maybe they live in big houses

>>212884971
We do but so do danes. None of this matters for sexing or fertility, all these countries have more or less the same shitty replacement rate. It's all cultural.

>>212878607 (OP)
Why would I? I like when I come home from work and I have already all the household chores done by my mother. Obviously I'd rather get them done by my wife but it's impossible to find a tradwife in this country nowadays so I'm stuck with my mum.

>living with parents until you get your own home is utterly incomprehensible to the westoid rentoid

>>212882167
ANd you still have 1600€ after that. I make 870€, 773€ after taxes.
Meanwhile a shitty one bedroom flat on my towns costs 420€ per month

No, will stay hoem with my parents, i have 20k€ on my account, i cook, i clean, i help out, and my only expense is my car. I will retire at 55 and live off of my savings and inheritance from parents

>>212879034
He probably saw that the average age of students is right around 30, but probably fails to realize that that is largely because of people changing their professions later in life. A good thing IMO as it leads to a more dynamic economy.

>>212879314
I plap my gf's cheeks while parents are next room and I'm 26, COPE

>>212878976
>>212878721
>>212882138
I plap my gf's cheeks while parents are next room and I'm 26, COPE

>>212878607 (OP)

When are you giving me your keys to your home & your parents' home?
Free of charge, of course.

>>212885931
>I will retire at 55
sure thing

>>212878607 (OP)
Shitty wages and high renting prices. After the housing bubble bust there was barely any new houses being built, plus all the waves of immigration after COVID.

>>212878976
Hahaha, let me amend it for you.
>Wouldn't you like to be ghosted for the third time this month?

>>212879341
this is why most bulgarian IPs are range banned. Fucking hate scum like you

>>212886769
lol but bro's funny
I like his diarrhea posts

>>212879341
i miss the days when i was young and stress-free enough to enjoy shitposts like these

>>212883973
there is no rejection of family values in this, the only difference is you and your family all live in the same shitty house and never will make anything of them selfs, mine doesnt and are doing great.

>>212878665
Can't you rent a one room flat in a minor city for 350€ and get a job?
I did that while in college. Though I didn't make a lot of money but my rent was lower.

>>212878976
Apparently that's exactly what people here do but I could never. Which is why I've only ever dated older women with their own places.

>>212878607 (OP)
What an apocalyptical job and housing market does to a MF

>>212887252
>Can't you rent a one room flat in a minor city for 350€
dis nigga think it still 2015

>>212887578
I looked up Grenoble (city with a university), flat to rent under 350€ and there are 37. I guess many are flats with roommates but not all.
https://www.seloger.com/annonces/locations/appartement/grenoble-38/237437471.htm?ln=classified_search_results&serp_view=list&search=distributionTypes%3DRent%26estateTypes%3DApartment%26locations%3DAD08FR14981%26priceMax%3D350&m=classified_search_results_classified_classified_detail_M for 334€/month

>>212887252
You may (if you're lucky) be able to get a room while sharing with 5 other people for that price

>>212878976
that's why you buy a cheap ass car

>>212887752
>oh wow Jose that 1998 Honda makes me so wet. Is that a spiderweb in the glove box? So hot

>>212878607 (OP)
Law practically forbids making new buildings
The city population grows but the amount of apartments doesnt

Basic Offer & Demand principles means the price skyrockets

Commies will point at "muh quintillion empty homes in spain" without realizing the majority are outside cities in places where nobody wants to live, or lack basic ammenities, or are in a ruinous or semi-ruinous condition

Real estate availability map

>>212878695
I did that. What's your question slacker?

>>212887739
Maybe that's your country. I found many that are with no roommates for 350€ max per month. In big french cities, but not in the two biggest ones.

>>212878607 (OP)
I don't want to work and I never will, non-NEETs shouldn't post here

>>212887773
unironically yeah. When you are young and poor you don't give a shit. At 19yo you are not shattering anyones expectations running around with a trashed 98 Honda.

>>212878607 (OP)
real wages decreased in spain in the past 15 years
a worker in 2023 earns less than a worker in the 2000's did
the only age group whose income grew in the past 20 years are the retired, who get the best retirement conditions relative to their pre-retirenement wage in Europe, and possibly in the world, which the working population has to pay for.

>>212887801
Lisbon has a shit ton of abondon building and still has housing shortage.

>>212888061
let the people build

>>212878607 (OP)
>abandoning your family to waste your money and mental wellbeing to the rent humiliation ritual is being le grownup
I'd rather save and invest the money I get from my salary

>>212888061
i forget, didnt portugal establish some retarded rental laws and price controls?
>>212888111
nooo you must spend a third of your income in renting some 2 room apartment anon

we simply are poor, we cant mimmick waht they do in american movies and tv shows because they are inmensely wealthy and we're not

>>212887252
>>212887738
Not an option in Italy. In 2017 I was looking for rooms in Rome, and for less than 600€/mo you couldnt get anything else than a shared room. I decided to keep commuting from home, which was in another city.
I only assume it got even worse since then

>>212888130
kek they wanted to oblige the landlords to put their houses on the renting market in case they were not being used. This didnt got thru, oblviously.
Even more kek worthy; They wanted to put afordble housing, state sponsored, in the market, gave themselfs milion of euros to do it, only achieve 10% of their established plan in 2 of the 5 years it was suposed to have done it.
Even those stooopid plans are not suposo to cover sgnificant house coverage, by their own accont.
So thats that.

>>212888553
>They wanted to put afordble housing, state sponsored, in the market, gave themselfs milion of euros to do it, only achieve 10% of their established plan in 2 of the 5 years it was suposed to have done it.

>>212888620
Also, almost forgot, they now also strongly subsidese houses for under 35 ppl. But all the wapping 10 thousand young bulls that are not paying the extra tax to the stat (thats the incentive lol) are all from Cascais, so they are richer than the bulk of the pleabs.
To makes things just, they also started to demolish ghettos, and didnt even gave this ppl second housing, even after leaving in this places for more than 20 years in some cases.

>>212885123
disgusting to know that greeks live like kings on my dole

>>212890607
1400sqf is only 130sqm, that's still a cuckbox. Only Americans live like kings.

>>212878976
>do they not nate
no
>clap cheeks
not happening in my cunt

>>212878607 (OP)
good luck trying to move out when the average salary for young people is like 1200€ and rents start at 800€ (can't outcompete digital niggers that pay less taxes and make 4 times more)

>>212878607 (OP)
I can just stay home and have basically 0 expenses, how is that a bad thing? I already have enough for a down payment on a house if I really wanted but no way I'll find something better than my mom's house where I live + I have sex with my mom