Do you trust 16 year olds in your country?

>>212884933 (OP)
Reform KEKED

this is a mistake

desperate power play that will inevitable backfire
not that UK electoral politics matter at all lol

>>212884933 (OP)
Inb4 the uber incel chud party wins

>>212884933 (OP)
I trust them more than boomers voting to pull the ladder up behind them

>>212884933 (OP)
so what stops teachers from bribing their students with grades for voting 4 someone?

>>212884933 (OP)
> voting
lol. Lmao

>>212884933 (OP)
Isn't the average 16-year-old in the UK named Muhammad?

>>212884933 (OP)
I think we should let 7-year-olds vote

i think everyone should vote

>>212884933 (OP)
>not old enough to drink
>not old enough to take dick
>not old enough to drive
>but in perfect age to decide the future of your country

>>212885011
I think that's the point jim. easy votes

If you're old enough to join the military and pay taxes you're old enough to vote

>>212884995
Voting being anonymous
You can just say you voted for someone while not actually voting for them

>>212884990
reform is already leading in polls and dominating local elections but the next general is a long ways away

>>212885030
you'd be surprised how many idiots posted photo evidence of who they voted for here

>>212884995
What's stopping this in college or at work?

>>212885025
I was going to try and prove you wrong but apparently the minimum driving age in the UK is 17. What a joke! You aren't even allowed to take lessons until you're 17.

>>212885031
they will implode before then, its not a serious party

>>212885049
2 more weeks

>>212884933 (OP)
The next ruling party will be very chuddy. And very brown.

>>212885025
In most European countries the UK included you can work and get married at 16.

>>212885025
too old to take paki drug dealer dick though

>>212885270
Lol

>>212884933 (OP)
Literal nothingburger. Young people don't vote en masse like boomers do.

>>212885034
it's technically not allowed and also yes that is something experts are worried about

>>212884933 (OP)
The UK is so fucked lmao

This is part of a ploy to normalize sex with teenage girls. Society is healing.

>>212884933 (OP)
Age isn’t a sign of being intelligent judging by old boomer voting retards

>>212884933 (OP)
What percentage of sixteen year olds in the UK are immigrants and/or muslims nowadays?

>>212884933 (OP)
I don't trust people at all. Normies are utter retards.

>>212884933 (OP)
Is this because it’s much easier for them to indoctrinate teenagers in schools? Once they leave the indoctrination stage they might return to normal which is why they’re doing this right? Younger they are the easier it is to influence their psyche.
Maybe I’m wrong but it sure seems that way. Diabolical innit they are comically evil.

>>212884933 (OP)
not at all, in fact i don't trust people to vote for what's right in general

>>212885455
true royalist cvck mentality

>>212885408
Just looked it up, it is at about 30% of people under 18 in the UK being immigrant or immigrant born. That doesn't include illegal boat jumpers, so I think saying about 1/3 is fair.

I have never voted and don't see myself doing it in this subanimal country

>>212884933 (OP)
lmao

>>212884933 (OP)
>16 year olds can vote
>but they can't use social media
wut

>>212884995
What's stopping your boss to bribe you with a promotion? What's stopping a rando to bribe you with money?

>>212885958
Didn't even think of this aspect lol

>>212885025
>not old enough to drink
>not old enough to take dick
both possible here, I don't know about the UK though

>>212885995
the first one is true in the UK, they're not that cucked yet

British 16 year olds be like:

>You know wut m8, the although the UK experience slightly higher interest rates over the Eurozone in the last 20 years on average, I reckon it's premature to say it's not right for our country to adopt the Euro if it helps encourage more sound fiscal planning when Labour is in gubmint

British 16 year olds be like:

>You know wut m8, the although the UK experience slightly higher interest rates over the Eurozone in the last 20 years on average, I reckon it's premature to say it's right for our country to adopt the Euro if it doesn't help encourage more sound fiscal planning when Labour is in gubmint

>>212886049
Kek

>>212884933 (OP)
Sounds based

>>212886049
Why are you pretending other age brackets think like this when it's usually they are literally hitler vs they want to turn them kids gay?

>>212886323
most normal people don't care about either

>>212885502
>cvck mentality
As opposed to the U.S where it's
>"hmmm, which geriatric pedo should I go for?"

>>212884933 (OP)
We have been doing so for some years now.

>>212886438
So you voted Harris?

>>212886448
>you voted Harris?
Fuck no, I don't vote at all because democracy isn't real.
I wrote in Carter because he was the only one technically eligible for election that isn't an irredeemable piece of shit (also he's anti-Zionist).

>>212886494
>I don't vote at all
>I wrote in Carter

>>212884933 (OP)
tb.h voting age should be around 25 if anything, especially for 1st world where you are mentally a kid until you finish university

>>212886494
Democracy does become real when your country introduces proportional representation. First Past the Post systems are just variations of "you have the choice between MAINSTEAM RIGHT PARTY and MAINSTREAM LEFTIST PARTY"

>>212886537
>>I don't vote at all
De jure I voted, de facto I didn't vote because Carter wasn't a "nominee".
I do not intend on voting at all after last election.

as a response Reform will allow people who have been deceased for less than 2 years to vote as well

>>212886566
if you need that distinction you say "at all" then

>>212884933 (OP)
Gotta get the new "british" generations to vote
Lmao
xd even

Man how long is it going to take for a bong to say "enough" and go ballistic on the parliament

>>212886556
>Democracy does become real when your country introduces proportional representation.
Tell that to the Dutch lol, all it does is result in dysfunctional coalition meme governments that inevitably results in vested interests and bureacrats governing everything by default anyway because consensus never forms.
Really, I'm shocked no third party in the U.S has tried to target house or senate races to get their foot in the door, because that seems to me to be much more viable than going after presidential elections.

>>212886635
>house or senate races
that's what Musk is allegedly doing, laser focusing on a few key seats. Of course he could change his mind once he sobers up

>>212886635
Why would you want Congress to be controlled by parties that don't support the presidency? That happens in your country frequently and I think it's retarded

>>212884933 (OP)
I don't trust anybody, not even myself

>>212886733
imagine thinking the problem is the voter and not the authoritarian presidential system

>>212886733
president needs to be kept in check. The reason the president often loses the midterms is because he did nothing in his first 2 years and he's being punished

>>212886771
I think mid-term elections are flawed.
If Shart voters don't like their president anymore after 2 years, they should replace him too.

>>212886733
>Why would you want Congress to be controlled by parties that don't support the presidency?
Oh yeah because our presidents have such great platforms and such competent, well-meaning administrations when left to their own devices. Bush was the last time a president had pretty much unchecked authority and he fucked us harder than a 14 year old Filipino boy on Little St. James; ever since we've had divided government in one form or another.
>>212886719
>that's what Musk is allegedly doing
He isn't going so far as to form a new party though, he's just going to try and railroad the Republicans into being in his pocket.
And btw Bulgarianon, Elon Musk's puppets getting into power would be the worst case scenario for this country, even worse than Magats, neolibs/neocons, or even the Socialists.

>>212886816
again, the problem there is the presidential system

>>212886840
Is it really that authoritarian?
Yes, a lot of the presidential powers resemble royal prerogatives under the British monarchy (or so I believe), But he is democratically elected.

>>212886910
every new guy changed the system to give himself more powers, we're seeing the logical conclusion of that
also in the US you can lose the popular vote and still win

>>212886910
>Is it really that authoritarian?
Linkrel has basically been how presidents have governed since the 80s. Because of how broken, corrupt, and anert congress is presidents have largely governed by either passing bipartisan bills that are highly authoritarian and benefit both parties or when they want partisan stuff they do executive orders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_executive_theory
>he is democratically elected
Neither party has held a fair or open primary since 2016 (while Democrats haven't held one since 2008).

>>212884933 (OP)
Starmer is a total wimp. Who respects this guy?

>>212887014
every British politician is a trust fund, private college, silver spoon up their ass soyboy. That's how their caste system works

Don't like voting, simple as

>>212884933 (OP)
Makes it easier to cut health spending and raise the retirement age which is what you'll need to do given a global drop in s33x0r

>>212886816
>I think mid-term elections are flawed.
Are you an LDP guy butthurt at Sanseitochads about to make their move?

>>212887041
are things different in Bulgaria? Can an underemployed lower-middle class nobody like me become Prime Minister in your country if I make the right frens?

>>212887282
>are things different in Bulgaria
Since the beginning of this decade Bulgarian politics has boiled down to "corrupt, incompetent neolib shitheels backed by Brussels vs. everyone else".

>>212887282
the guy who's been running the country for 15 years is an illiterate firefighter so yes absolutely. But the emphasis is on "right friends" because you need the right mafia bosses to support you, otherwise you won't even get close to governing

>>212885007
What are politics like in Uzbekistan, is it a typical post-Soviet regime ran by some former communist guy or is it something else?

>>212888044
I'd love to tell you in colors, but I don't want to get v&. It's more or less the same as any other post soviet country that isn't Baltic. 1 family rules everything

>>212885025
If they are at an age where they can get tried as adults because they should understand the consequences of their actions in the eyes of the law, then they should be allowed to vote.

Simple as.

>>212884933 (OP)
I'd rather see 16 years old vote than 60 years old vote. Pensioners shouldn't have voting rights

>>212888218
>I don't want to get v&
>It's more or less the same as any other post soviet country that isn't Baltic. 1 family rules everything
Ah, gotcha.
Does anything ever happen related to your ethnic Uzbek kin in Afghanistan, or is that mostly done and over with?

>>212886635
>letting professional employees govern instead of retarded politicians is bad
>forcing the retards to get along and tone down their retardation to get anything done is bad

>>212884933 (OP)
no, they are obviously lying

>>212888277
We maintain their rail lines and sell stuff at discount price -- they leave us alone. Not much enthnic uniformity here to care about Uzbeks in Afghanistan

>>212885025
>not old enough to drink
They are
>not old enough to take dick
They are
>not old enough to drive
Mopeds only

I trust them more than geriatrics that have no idea about how the average people live.

>>212888314
>Not much enthnic uniformity here to care about Uzbeks in Afghanistan
Not even this guy?
>they leave us alone
So you guys don't deal with Islamists too often as a result? Sounds nice.
>>212888287
I don't think you understand just how much you can't win in America. There's a reason why countries as big as it such as Brazil, Indonesia, or Russia are all either authoritarian as hell or corrupt and incompetent, and the U.S combines the worst of both worlds albeit along with some of the best of the latter.

>>212888443
I have no idea who this guy is

>>212884933 (OP)
Wait that's actually good wtf are you on about??
More voices for younger generation means all the things younglings care about, better work hours, lower house prices, better privacy, MORE ANTITRUST.
Holy shit actual decent news for once

>>212888487
>I have no idea who this guy is
He was an Afghan Uzbek warlord, formerly a DRA general that later became one of the most infamous war criminals and militants the U.S backed during our time over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Rashid_Dostum

>>212888640
I see why I have no idea who that is. But I'd rather not linger in the thread any longer, for my chances of getting v& increase with every truke like that

>>212888504
Anon, the younger generation in Britain are all Browns from India and Pakistan...

>>212888954
Imagine how much things will accelerate from now on. This is so grusome yet so exciting. Britain 56% by 2040

>>212885025
You can do all of these things before 18 in the uk. My gf is literally 17 and its crazy to le every rime I remember that if we go to the US together then we literally wouldn't be a llowed to stay in the same hotel room or anything.

>>212888301
>had the most powerful people in the world in his grip
>#relationshipgoals with ghislaine
this nigga was too based for this world

>>212884933 (OP)
16 has been voting age for some time here

>>212884933 (OP)
If anything countries need a maximum voting age. For example if you are a delusional boomer cunt you can't have a say in a future that you don't even get to live anyway.

>>212889005
>My gf is literally 17 and its crazy to le every rime I remember that if we go to the US together then we literally wouldn't be a llowed to stay in the same hotel room or anything.
I had the same experience a couple years back when I was 20 and had a 17 y/o gf. It was fucking insane how berated I was by my peers and branded as a "pedo" despite the fact that her having massive, perfectly shaped tits and a nice, heart-shaped ass were the reasons I was initially attracted to her.

>>212889139
I am a decade older than my girl and still no one cares. America soubds like a cancerous place to be.

>>212884933 (OP)
16 year olds are retarded BUT democracies are being terrorized by neoliberal boomers and this helps to offset that.

>>212885270
bodied those rotting teeth retards

Imagine all the brainswashed retarded w*men and paki teens flooding the booths. Grim

Your average voter is an uninformed idiot regardless of age anyway. Adding two extra years to that won't hurt anyone.

>>212891086
>flooding
zoomers and later don't give a shit about voting

>muh zoomers will vote chud tiktok
you forget about all the 2nd gen muslim niggers who're going to vote for saar saarmadi
this is going to give even more leverage to niggers

>>212885435
It's a lot less sinister but equally as cynical.
Young people are typically more left-leaning (due to having a simpler world-view where there's no nuance and therefor a correct opinion and a wrong and evil opinion), so Starmer is probably hoping this would result in more stable Labor votes for years to come.

>>212891830
>Young people are typically more left-leaning
2012 called, it wants its youth back

The voting age should be raised to 21 and capped at retirement age, you literally can't argue against this in good faith

>>212892249
I can. Voting age should be 35 and only those who own property can vote. If you don’t have a stake in this country, you have no business voting.

Smart considering how most youth are not ethnic Brits.
Accelerate

>>212892288
>how to make the housing crisis and NIMBYism ten times worse

>>212891124
It's very easy to force them too by having goyim influecers their brainrot ass watches shill for them. Romania was a case study of this.

>>212892288
You wouldn't survive the inevitable civil war, boomer. Sit your ass down before you get dragged out onto the streets and beaten to death.

>>212884933 (OP)
>Absolutely no input requested from the voting populace for such a decision

Why? Why do they have referendums for the most inane shit but stuff like this they just say "fuck it" and run with it despite not consulting the public at all? Why have you pommes not gone full Guy Fawkes yet (gay masks withstanding)

the average 16 year old in Britain is either Muslim or African if not both
They are speed running sharia law o aglo

>>212892649
so is the lowered voting age a slipper slope to lowered consenting/marriage age? not that it stops them anyway

>>212884933 (OP)
The only reason the government is doing this is because they want more votes. Same reason they’re importing countless third worlders. They don’t care about the country or it’s people so long as they stay in power

>>212885025
the age of consent is 16 here

>>212885031
>reform
Controlled opposition

only tax-paying citizens should be able to vote

>>212884933 (OP)
Voting age should be 25+. Young acults are delaying childhood, staying in school and living with their parents longer. You dont have enough life experience to understand the system until you’ve worked for a few years and lived independently

16 year olds are neither sufficiently developed nor sufficiently experienced enough to be involved in politics. If they vote, they'll just be expressing other people's opinions. It's important that people be insulated from politics until they've developed to the minimum adequate biological, intellectual and economic standard

>>212894289
*delaying adulthood

>>212894302
This is true for most adults too.

>>212894390
Yes

>>212887334
>the guy who's been running the country for 15 years is an illiterate firefighter
finally, working democracy

>>212884995
What's stopping a billionaire from bribing you?

>>212887014
wtf?

>>212888504
>16 years old living in their parents houses with no economic prospects other than what they see in social media know about economy and policy.
>implying half of those arent pakis

>>212894289
Voting age should be 25-65. Old people are niggers

>>212895435
Don’t know how it is in Italy, but old people vote for gibs the same way young people do. They want Medicare expansion, greater SS benefits, etc. Young people want free college, free healthcare, etc. I would definitely support 25 - 65, basically those in their working stage of life being able to vote. Also exceptions for those serving in the military

>>212892599
the current government is the most unpopular in several hundred years, they're thrashing around trying anything to get them more votes for the next election even if it destroys the country even more, in the last week 10 MPs have been kicked out of the labour party for "rebellion"