How does ANYBODY make money in Norway?

>>212923879 (OP)
It's basically like Saudi Arabia but in Scandinavia. They sit on their asses all day and collect oil bux

>>212923879 (OP)
well they don't have immigrants to worry about
any other rich countries could afford that if they didn't waste their money on migrant hotels and bennies for families of 22

>>212923906
>well they don't have immigrants to worry about
Based retard

>>212923906
>well they don't have immigrants to worry about

>>212923999
How many Indians do you have in your city?

>>212924036
don't live in a city, but one is too many

>>212923951
>>212923999
that's literally nothing compared to us, germany and france

>>212923879 (OP)
Might have something to do with our liberal economy, strong welfare state etc.

>>212924081
>is called out on retardation and lack of basic knowledge
>decides to double down
based retard
Oslo is pretty much minority Norwegian

>>212924186
you were too stupid to even understand the graph you posted
you could easily look at immigration statistics across europe but you're too retarded for that

>>212924242
it's a graph showing welfare usage of immigrants in Norway, which you would know if you weren't a monolingual nigger retard
it was a direct counterpoint to your "ayo dem homogenous norwegiens dont gib dem gibs to dem migrants" argument, you absolute spastic
>you could easily
you could too and if you could read you'd know Norway has a higher foreign born % than the UK, Germany and France
Kill yourself

>>212923879 (OP)
>elementary school often does outdoors classes with sleepover for a night or two
>summer, winter, cabin or outdoors in tent..
>school is not supposed to supply such gear, its seen as common here
>people on welfare, drugs, immigrants etc "cant afford that"
>school district doesnt punish the kids but tell theit parents here is a second hand sleeping bag and tent you can borrow for free this weekend...

>>212923879 (OP)
do they have axes and knives for the arabs?

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>>212924081
Don't take us into that. From all European countries you and France are on their own level.

wouldn't work here for obvious reasons

>>212924433
only because turks put themselves as "white" on the census

baserte daniel bare knuser trynet på mongolide angloer

>>212924512
No m8, that kind of shit in the UK and France with riot and so on.
Things are bad here because obviuosly nobody likes seing niggers and arabs, but really far from you

>>212923879 (OP)
You don't.
You either work in a store all your life, or you take a huge student loan and get some shitty overtime time job for the same pay with no job security

>>212924576
or you do as i, you become a tradie, make bank from day one and work your way up based on experience and reputation.

>>212924619
this is the way

>>212924576
>you take a huge student loan
you dont have to pay it back

>>212924576
house, 3 cars, debt free

>>212924485
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>>212924729
Yeah you do, and with us having the highest interest rates in europe right now all im doing is paying interest every month.
If I had not studied I would have unironically had a house by now

And no, I do not consider a store job inessential, and they should definitely be paid well enough to live.
But when im working in a job market that could collapse at any time trying to pay interest, and I get taxed off most of my income, I do get kinda scared for my own future.

>>212924305
>it's a graph showing welfare usage of immigrants in Norway
Actually, it's a very specific form of welfare targeting basic subsistence. The reason there's a larger number of immigrants using it is primarily that Norwegians qualify for better forms of welfare.

>>212924815
>dont study and get in debt for a position the job market doesnt need.
>move to finnmark and they cancel a substantial amount of student debt every year you live and work there.

>>212924815
>the average loan after graduation in Norway was NOK 340,000
that's nothing, and repayment is based on your income. so you will never struggle to pay it back

>>212924081
1/5 of the population in Norway are immigrants. Your picrel doesn't mean shit because there are probably 4K brown people in that street. 4K isn't much in UK where 65M people lives

>>212923999
On my very first day in Oslo I saw a bunch of africans (I think eritreans) having an after-wedding party in a big park.
It wasn't grim or anything I'd just never seen this many africans in one place before.

>>212924974
grim
no one should go to oslomabad

>>212924972
from where? and where do they live?

if they tried that here every single thing would be stolen by crackheads

>>212924961
It's just not going down with the interest rates as it is now, and im only barely being paid above average income.
Meanwhile my job security is non-existant, im working unpaid overtime, and im being paid -20% the amount of what I would be paid for the same position in other European countries in the same profession.

I know its probably bitching, and if I ever did lose my job I would get paid 60% of my salary until I got a new one, but still.

>>212925068
what was your degree in? if it's not in STEM or finance or something it was your mistake

>>212925191
Im a software engineer leader. My job is basically working overtime trying to fix other people's shitty code.
I work in the weekends and all week, I have not had a vacation in 2 years and im still renting.
It was my own decision, and I wish i picked something easier

>>212925233
>software engineer leader
so am i and there is no way your salary is under 80,000 euros
apply to another company

>>212925294
It is, and that's just the shitty job market here and how it is. Once I have 5 years experience im ditching this country.
Not out of spite but because:
A. I believe the job market will collapse, and im taking a huge risk, and theres no reward for it
B. Unpaid overtime is apparently work culture here in high professions

>>212925349
>Once I have 5 years experience
how are you a lead with < 5 years experience?

i heard Jon Gjengset (from Oslo) talking about the norway job market and it's not as good as American but not bad either

>>212925018
Just finish watching some type of YouTube podcast an hour ago. The self declared expert said that there are well over 1M immigrants in Norway now. They settled in Oslo first, then came Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger, Tromsø. Latest trend is that they also live in small villages now
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rfrBL-KQZLg&pp=ygURSW5udmFuZHJpbmcgbm9yZ2U%3D

the strangest part about norway is that they dont eat lunch. they eat sandwiches and coldcuts

no country for regular built 100 kg+ men

>>212923879 (OP)
These ideas have been tried several times since the 1960s. It always end up in people "borrowing" but never returning.

>>212923879 (OP)
>how do norwegians make money
step 1: be norwegian
step 2: have your country's EEZ be located over some oil fields
step 3: collect rent and rely on the US's protection to enforce your exclusive right to collect rent there

that's really all there is to it. every single Norwegian alive is a net drain on the global economy, by the mere virtue of existing. they're the geopolitical equivalent of an absentee landlord.

i work and my salary is higher than what i spend, i pay less taxes than in my home country
this is fucking heaven on earth

>>212925499
go home

>>212925525
no ty, you stay in your shithole

>>212925374
>how are you a lead with < 5 years experience?
I started as a junior, however there was no direction and leadership was awful.
Started taking things into my own hands after a year and just made up my own tasks, after a while I had so many tasks that I could not feasably complete them unless there were 24 hours in a day.
Have good communication with my boss and he goes to me for everything, so I started delegating tasks to others and eventually got promoted to team leader.

Its all insane but we're doing pretty good. But there are about a 100 different factors which could make the company collapse at any point.

>>212925564
not like I have any choice in the matter

I don't get why they let you dirty jeet fucks everywhere, the work you do is trash

We have that here, you can get shit like sewing machines, games consoles, chromebooks, telescopes, microscopes etc. I'm pretty sure America has it as well.

>>212925404
Interesting to read the comment section about the guy who wrote that he and one other pupil where the only two in his class who were white and that was in Oslo during the 1980s

>>212923879 (OP)
how is this different than people using government roads? it's just a matter of them being a rich petrostate with a massive wealth fund so they can afford such things

>>212925233
Dont you have 4 or 5 weeks vacaion there that is socially accebtable to take out fully like in Sweden

>>212923906
>well they don't have immigrants to worry about
Are you retarded?

>>212924815
>>212925068
>>212925233
This guy is a fucking retard and most probably lying or extremely bad with money. I'm a software engineer (not even a "leader" or what the fuck he's calling it) and I bought my second apartment last year in Oslo, really close to Oslo centre (one of the more expensive parts of Oslo).

>>212926291
Yes, in fact he's obligated to take out *at least* 3 weeks otherwise his employer will get in trouble.

>>212926376
Tech stack?

>>212926441
I work with C and C++ and Python. We've played around with some Rust for isolated projects but the boomers at my work don't know it so they are a bit reluctant.

>>212926291
Not enforced at all.
Have some people here who have not taken vacation for 5 years.
Someone I know who's in the health industry has the same experience. Realistically it wont be taken to court.

>>212926519
Yes it would you retard. All it takes is one person sending an email to arbeidstilsynet. Why the fuck are you lying? Your employer would get in serious trouble if employers don't take out their vacation.

>>212923879 (OP)
is this isn't a sign taxes need to be slashed i don't know what is

>>212926572
They don't fund this shit with taxes in Norway

>>212926376
why would you buy an apartment in any capital city in this day and age
are you indian

>>212924346
that seems like an activity to exclude kids whose skin color makes them criminally predisposed, why would you want them to hang out with yours?
seems bizarre

>>212926594
do they enslave people?

>>212926602
>software engineer
what do you think

>>212926548
Multiple people in my office have not taken a vaction since they started working here.
You can keep believing in the platonic ideal fantasy that everyone follows the law here if you want, your choice

>>212926620
you should really do the mandatory 10 year lurking period before posting on /int/

Norway is a petrostate. They get rent from petroleum extraction which their government has been investing into a sovereign wealth fund for decades now, so they're sitting on a massive pile of cash that is both continuously growing and compounding in the stock market, out of all proportion to their population size.

>>212926640
>moves to 1st world country
>still behaves by 3rdie rules
why are you like this saaaaaaaaaaar?

>>212925018
poopland

>>212926660
>Norway is a petrostate. They get rent from petroleum extraction which their government has been investing into a sovereign wealth fund for decades now, so they're sitting on a massive pile of cash that is both continuously growing and compounding in the stock market, out of all proportion to their population size.
it's literally like 350k per person not even enough to fund pensions lmao literal retard nice dodge on my question btw slavoid subhuman

>>212926640
I mean, it's literally one email to arbeidstilsynet and your employer will get BTFO'd and blasted in media. It happens every year.

>>212926602
Because I like to live close to friends and family and my job.

>>212926705
Yeah, but then I lose my job, and I need 5 years experience on my CV

>>212926774
You can take another job, no one is going to care that your CV says "never took a single vacation day in 5 years", they're all going to think you are a schmuck and a pushover.

>>212926696
what question did I dodge, mamadou? norway's oil income relieves a lot of the boomer life support obligations from the government budget that everyone else has. meaning in effect they get to spend more money than tax revenues would allow on their own.

>>212926714
are your friends and family also indians?

>Baltoids seething over a Norwejeet

>>212926802
This is true.

>>212926802
>OOGA BOOGA ME SLAVOID ME NO READING COMPREHENSION OOGA

>>212924421
What am I looking at

>>212926795
nobody will hire anyone with <5 years of experience in the current job market. no entry level codemonkeys will ever be needed again, it's all mid-senior and up from here on out.

>>212923879 (OP)
>borrowing stuff is communist now

>>212926822
projection. You seem to have entirely misunderstood our conversation and are now chimping out, fucking africans.

>>212926815
>only immigrants build cities
What a fucking retard.

>>212923879 (OP)
They make money by getting overpaid by the Norway government to not take care of the "library" equipment, duh

>>212926869
Oslo is majority non-norwegian and for a software engineer being desperate staying at that shithole means that you are brown and feel right at home

Norwegians are massive cucks

Norwegian women are renowed mudsharks

>NO U
man slavoids ar such subhumans it's impressive

>>212926912
>Oslo is majority non-norwegian
It's not
And I stay here because I grew up here and my entire family and all my friends live here. You wouldn't know because you're a muslim immigrant.

>>212926953
I looked at stat in wikipedia and it stood at 65% Norwegian in 2020 and I bet its under 60% now
its not far off and most likely the more in the inner circle you are, the less norwegian it gets minus the absolute central areas

>>212927000
Firstly, did you not read my post? I bought apartment in one of the more expensive parts of town; you think Fatima on her government gibs can afford that?

Secondly, why would I let browns push me out. You are a fucking coward if you simply move and hope that they don't follow instead of fight back.

>>212927045
>uuuh its based that I live in a woke caliphate city and doom my kids to live in a place where they are a minority because...I HAVE LE MONEY and I am...LE NOT KEK
not letting the city fall is the cuck thing to do

>>212927107
You're just mad I'm not that easily scared away. Probably because your own name is Mohammed and you want all whites to leave so you can buy cheap property when the prices go down after the whites have left.

>>212923879 (OP)
Norway is oil and fish rich. That goes to the people instead of the shareholders of government contractors.

>>212923906
>Implying some white brits wouldnt destry the things or not return them
We are a nation of yobbos. Never forget that.

>>212927143
why would I be mad that the kids you probably wont have anyway will get bullied for being norwegian

>>212927308
Are you genuinely retarded? Do you think I will continue to live in an apartment when I get kids? No, I will sell the apartment and because it's in one of the more expensive parts of town I can afford a house in the suburbs.

>>212927334
so now you are saying its an investment? Welp that is a shitty investment

>>212927396
All real estate is an investment doofus. Either for yourself or for your kids. Unless you live in bumfuck nowhere of course, where value doesn't appreciate.

>>212927442
I am just saying that as an investment apartments arent the thing unless you get a small loan of million dollars

>>212927511
Of course, but I also need somewhere to live. That being said, the last couple of years the real estate market in Oslo has outperformed the stock markets. I sold the apartment I bought last year for 900k NOK more than I bought it for after only a year.

>>212923879 (OP)
high trust society

>>212923879 (OP)
i respect the attempt at making white japan

>>212925423
Grok is this true

take their oil and we'll see how long they stay that way

>>212925404
>all Norwegians will be mixed soon there is no coming back from this.

>>212923902
>>212928832
Norway was rich before oil. They just used the same tactic as with hydropower and applied it to oil. Oil was just the cherry on top. Without oil they'd just be Sweden which is not exactly destitute.

>>212925585
im from hungary, keep seething dirty ruski

>>212929954
>Without oil they'd just be Sweden which is not exactly destitute
It amazes me how many people don't understand that. It's like they can't use their eyeballs, notice that Norway is surrounded by 4 other, nearly identical Nordic countries, and then rub two brain cells together to deduct that maybe Norwegians wouldn't be starving in mud huts if not for oil and gas

>>212929954
Yes, Norway has always had plentiful energy. But from my father's stories of going to Norway as a kid (visiting relatives), it was far less developed than Sweden at the time. Very rural, very poor for the most part. Russia tier, basically. The big cities were probably comparable.

>>212929954
>Norway was rich before oil.
it was literally the poorest nordic country (yes poorer than us)

>>212933012
It was very much average, unless you have other data

>>212923879 (OP)
Yes yes welcome to Nordic countries. we get high wages, we're also high tax

Crash course to Nordic countries - it's nice and comfy here, nobody is really poor. But nobody is very rich as well, we're all clustered around the median

Sounds great and all except 3 key things, 1) you quickly get a sense of mediocrity even tho you're "supposed to feel good" 2) as soon as some corporate gets greedy and competitive outside Nordics they pack their shit and leave for America or tax haven counties 3) immigrants engaging in parasitism

>>212923879 (OP)
So it's easy to make money in Norway, it's difficult to make big money

>>212932982
Biggest mistake in the 50's and 60's was wasting so much money on roads to rural villages that later became abandoned anyway.

>>212923879 (OP)
>Borrowing a public use tent
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

>>212933395
The normal money in Nordics are the big money in 3rd world though, a plumber or a welder from Denmark can afford a pretty top tier wife from some shithole. All that a Pakistani welder can afford is an obese Paki wife that will nag him for being a loser

>Oil and mineral reserves
>small and relatively homogenous population
They are built to be socialists

i would just take it

>>212934285
You are spiritually Nigerian, if you are not one by blood. No wonder your shithole of a country elected Trump

>>212934285
shiiieeeet nigga time to flip that shit on facebook marketplace and buy henny wid dem profitz I respect the grind my negro

>>212923879 (OP)
I mean what is the problem with that though?

My dad hates norway and calls them "the last soviet state"

>>212923879 (OP)
lol we have the same in my town, means we don't need to own things like lawnmowers, we just borrow them from the kit library

communal stuff makes it all better, especially when the pensioners here clean the streets and make it better by volunteering at things like that

>>212937261
call him a dumb libtard

Fuck norway, hope they all die

>>212933354
>immigrants engaging in parasitism
But the system is based around it though? Being able to coast by on meh while being carried by a welfare state.

>>212937678
Like you can get a degree all on the state's dime— and then just drop everything and become a stay at home mom, be a part-time "worker" or just do nothing.

>>212937421
He's a chud thoughever

>>212923906
>well they don't have immigrants to worry about
i fucking wish

>>212926615
i genuinely dont believe there is a criminal gene and treating all kids equal might make them grow up as equal. needing economic help for basic outdoors supply is not uncommon for local whites, welfare doesnt cover that it only covers their daily expences.

>>212937261
Swedes and danes love to visit Oslo so the can look at exotic supercars https://youtube.com/watch?v=-U7TZwC0nnc

Soviet must have been heaven on earth if it was filled with supercars