Thread 212950450

It's crazy that languages that have thousands of years of vibrant cultural expression and history are being purposefully wiped out today even in so called enlightened countries of the West.

>>212950490
Kinda like native Americans no?

>>212950500
People are allowed to speak Cherokee or whatever here.

>>212950450 (OP)
>cracks down on it for being associated with Hong Konger nationalism and identity
Not true in the slightest
This is an entirely natural result of increased travel between the mainland and Hong Kong since 1997 and more people migrating to eastern China since the 80s for work

dont care lol

>>212950450 (OP)
dont worry my country will preserve it

>>212950500
there will always be some degree of preservation because of its use during ww2

no that's not how it works
firstly hk doesn't claim cantonese, guangdong does
secondly ccp won't crack down on anything

>>212950450 (OP)
False. I will learn Cantonese for the sole purpose of reclaiming Hong Kong if needs be

>>212950500
>Kinda like native Americans no?
We're shockingly generous and considerate to chugs if they want to preserve their language. Problem is they don't really care about them and prefer to beat their children and die of alcoholism on the rez while their language is only preserved by white academics at our universities. Completely different to say France where it's against the law to teach a regional language in school.

>>212950691
It’s ironic how a nearly dead languaged helped spare much of the world from speaking Japanese today

>>212950701
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't HKers speak a unique dialect of Cantonese due to decades of cultural isolation from the mainland?

>>212950721
Rez natives look down upon the academic versions of their language because they're not organic, Ojibwes in particular.

>>212950752
yes they have their super special elite dialect but it's not because of isolation it's because they want to look down on everyone else

>>212950796
That's quintessentially British innit

>>212950772
Yeah because they want to feel better about the fact that they don't care that much about their languages deep down, just like the Irish. The idea that paleface cares more about their heritage than they do burns them up.

>>212950819
not sure, but there is definitely discrimination in hk for the different type of cantonese they might speak, lets say they are a very haughty people

>>212950450 (OP)
>>212950490
I mean that's how nation building works. Why do you think everyone in America speaks English. You're less likely to have national unity and people being on the same page if you let them be different
>But muh Switzerland and Belgium
Tiny countries that are irrelevant compared to China who wants to become the number one superpower. And you don't become that by promoting muh diversity. They're just going through what every major European power went through at some point. Italy picked one of several languages and called it Italian and they mafe the other languages die out and called them ""dialects"". The UK made the Scots and Irish speak English. France exterminated a whole bunch of regional languages snd Spain took Castillian and just decided it's going to be Spanish.even though Catalans are an economic powerhoise in the country and Basque doesn't even belong in the same language family

There are more Cantonese speakers than Korean speakers. It's not going away anytime soon.

Is Guangdong province itself a meme?
I've been to Shenzhen and it was very kitsch rather than "modern" from how I saw it

>>212950975
well guangdong is the most populous province of china, it's almost equal to the population of japan, ofc it's going to be pretty kitsch

>>212951006
Japan is second world tier poor now but even our shittiest neighborhoods seem civilized. How do we do it?

>>212951032
>Japan is second world tier poor now but even our shittiest neighborhoods seem civilized. How do we do it?
Unlimited American money to rebuild and reinvent your country after we burned it down in WW2. China was a commie cesspit with African tier levels of development until the 1980's when they realized communism was retarded and became fascists.

>>212951051
So it's not because we build reliable cars that most sane people want to drive o algo

>>212951032
uh chinese people are not japanese people

do you think cantonese is only spoken in HK or something?
>>212950975
Chinese real estate developments have been doing the whole "futuristic" cosplay for a while now.

>>212951051
So it's not because we create societies with wide class divide between the rich and poor, leading to decay of many low income communities, especially in urban areas, while the rich flee to the suburbs and setup "gated communities"

>>212951066
>>212951098
No, it's because if you didn't have our money you'd be on par with Korea today.

>>212951098
haha what a retard
it's amazing you nips get to live in such a fantasy land
you deserve to be sent a few million more kurds and you can learn what diversity actually means

>>212951203
But Korea is literally better than Japan now
I don't know about South Korea tho

>>212951206
they are already enriched by millions of pajeets and seamonkeys rn
weeb dream japan is already dead (always was desu, it was only real in anime)

>>212951245
man if it was only seamonkeys and chinese it wouldnt be much of an issue

>>212951290
it aint just about money
south asians dont give a shit about japanese culture they just want money and higher quality of life
southeast asians are more chinese in culture and are much more suitable as immigrants for japan
there's a difference

Cantonese is soulful. Probably my favorite foreign language

Chinksects goysume everything

>>212951243
>But Korea is literally better than Japan now
Zainichi detected

>>212951342
>south asians dont give a shit about japanese culture they just want money and higher quality of life
You just summed up a good chunk of our people

>>212951342
>[they] dont give a shit about japanese culture they just want money and higher quality of life
You just summed up most Japanese in a nutshell

>>212951397
if you think there's no difference between indians and vaguely left wing but not all that ideological japanese then youre gonna have to learn that lesson the hard way
and when you do please remember that some anon on 4chan was right

>>212950450 (OP)
With 60+million?

>>212951342
>southeast asians are more chinese in culture and are much more suitable as immigrants for japan
Lmao Viets in particular are infamous for overstaying visas as well as being patties for local Japanese syndicates alongside low level groups.

>>212951454
>please remember that some anon on 4chan was right
Behold, the prophecy of a bunch of Gaijin who masturbate regularly to our cartoons

>>212951051
>China was a commie cesspit with African tier levels of development
>until the 1980's when they realized communism was retarded and became fascists.
Americans need to put down the crack pipe.

>>212951500
俺のことならエロゲーの方はもっと楽しい
最近ほとんどアニメ見てないし

Do you realise that Cantonese is spoken in Guangdong? And that most people in HK are immigrants, usually 4-5 generation immigants from Guangdong?
I am fucking tired of Hong Kongers
They have quickly gone from a group I thought I loved as someone with HK ancestry and relatives to a group that I despise
Also HK cinema is extremely overrated and often terrible
Not that Chinese cinema is any better

>>212951534
Someone got brainwashed in College. Was it a club you joined or was it because of pussy

>>212951554
The Hong Kong protests killed HKs reputation with how retarded the protest leaders were and how many of them bail pre-emptively. That and the whole British nostalgia by young adults who weren't alive or were wee babies at the time.

>>212950721
Nowadays regional languages are making a comeback in schools but it's a sad artificial revival, for people who want their kids in special classes away from certain people, it's just watered-down feel-good folklore, it has no purpose since the languages are effectively dead.

>>212951505
Can you point where he's wrong though?

>>212951583
Yes. The first step to rehabilitation is stating facts so you can start your journey of recovery. Note I said "to" instead of "of" in that sentence; for the journey to rehab is often times even more monumental than the rehab itself. Don't sorry though because if you ever need to vent it's all okay. We are on 4chan so all this shit it anonymous. You are safe here.

>Cantonese gf in Hong Kong
mid
>Northern Han 170cm gf in Hong Kong
Peak Patrician taste

>>212951597
Good maybe they'll be beating up Nafris while speaking the tongue of their ancestors and not one forced on them by the Parisian scum

>>212951597
>Can you point where he's wrong though?
You think Shanghai is on par with fucking Ougadougou? Tanzania only had two engineers at the time of independence.

>>212951591
Yeah that's exactly what did it for me
>we're just asking for democracy (that's going to end in a few decades) nothing more!
>give us our rights back (which will end in a few decades)! that's all we're asking for
>yeah fuck winnie the pooh, hong kong forever! The riots? What do you mean how the riots are affecting me? I'm attending university in the UK whilst living in one of my dad's many investment properties
>I love Trump and Pence, please save us from the yellow shina peril and restore British rule!
>hey check out my colonial british police uniform, isn't it great?
>no we aren't asking for anything more than what the current agreement stipulates, we're not asking for independence
Also
>hong kong food is all about the original flavour of the ingredients, no other asians except for the Japanese has such a sophisticated cuisine!
>yes, we eat clean food whereas other Asians eat dirty food, it's just the great quality of ingredients we have!

>>212951625
I mean I'd be all for that but apart from the couple hundred families that still speak regional languages on Sunday family reunions the kids aren't any more proficient than they'd be in English or Spanish

>>212951636
I'm pretty sure that in the 1950s there were less people dying of starvation or being wrongfully jailed in Senegal than in China

>>212952019
time to change that

>>212950450 (OP)
Cool