Give me 1 (one) reason why turkey shouldn't be invited.

>Muslim!
Albania is getting in.
>Corrupt!
Hungary is already in.
>At war in Cyprus!
Greece is already in.
>Too many Turks!
Germany us already in.
>Not white enough!
France is already in.

Too large population with too shit economy to contribute anything

>>212993862 (OP)
le kurderinos o algo

>>212993862 (OP)
10 gorillion Arabs and Kurds would immediately flood over and we would be come england tier

They are 80 million people and would greatly tip the balance of the franco-german order at the european parliament once they got their MP seats.
That't why the EU will probably never admit again any >40 million people country.

>>212993932
Would contribute low paying workers, so we don't import from fucking Africa.
At least Turks know not to rape kids.

>>212993966
I want the Latins vs Germano-slavs balance tipped. French protectionism is a hindrance to eastern development and union wide prosperity.

>>212993976
Salary dumping is a bad thing, Özgul.

>>212993932
>too shit economy to contribute anything
Yeah Poland, Bulgaria, Romania had great economies when they joined and contributed a lot

>>212994101
Those countries are still net drains.

EU has countries destroying internal cohesion already, we don't need a country of 85 million people doing the same thing.
EU would don't survive it.

>>212994173
But the EU will survive with 100 million nafris and bantus

>>212993862 (OP)
It's not in Europe. It's in Asia.

>>212993862 (OP)
How do I benefit from this
Not a rethorical question btw

>>212994101
If we ignore the German-Polish neocolonial relationship, the EU is fairly balanced. Much worse drains within countries, or between USA states.

>>212993862 (OP)
>Give me 1 (one) reason why turkey shouldn't be invited.
It's Turkey, I don't like them
Also this >>212994173 + their economy is in shambles so they would only slurp economic incentives with nothing to offer in return other than kurdish migration into Europe

turks refuse to apologize for armenian, greek, assyrian genocide. turks believe in islam and cult of personalies. turkey is not european culturally, lingustically, geographically.

>>212994238
Cheaper primary goods, due to cheaper labor.
Higher proffi wages, dye to more consumers.

If you are upper middle class, you benefit from a flood of grunts. If you are yourself a grunt, you lose bargain power on the market.

i like turkey but it just isnt european. also too many islamists

>>212993862 (OP)
can they take anti-Russian policy though?

>>212994303
>turks refuse to apologize for armenian, greek, assyrian genocide
nobody gives a shit about these outside reddit and lobbyism spaces. turkey is a democracy-autocracy hybrid country of 80 million muslims with a chaotic economy thats why they arent in

>>212994346
Turkey is more anti-russian and anti-chinese than the EU average, if that bothers you. They literally fight Russia in Syria and Libya (where Russia works together with France).

>>212993862 (OP)
it's not in europe

>>212994356
Armenian opinions are relevant in Bulgaria, they are the jew-like showbiz minority here. This matters, we have a veto.

>>212993862 (OP)
They're literally the wall that's preventing millions of middle easterners from flooding the continent also turkey isn't in Europe.

>>212994356
>democracy-autocracy hybrid

theres no democracy in turkey. literally most popular opposition leader jailed for no reason.

>>212994409
nigger bulgaria is a servant country to germany and france like the rest of the eu and even france doesnt actually give a shit about armenia despite all the big talk. turkey doesnt get in because its muslim, massive, occupies cyprus and is on an anti democratic path. maybe with the istanbul mayor that can change. nobody gives a shit about assyrians, greeks or armenians.

>>212994526
>maybe with the istanbul mayor that can change
blud this nigga is in turkish guantanamo prison

I am for turkey joining, once they get rid of erDOG and become a democracy

>>212994526
>maybe with the istanbul mayor that can change.

hes jailed. great insight mario.

>>212994562
then give me citizenship and ill win the election for them

>>212994386
>anti-russian
sure
>and anti-chinese
nope

If Turkey had 20-30 million people, it would be already be in EU. They let in countries with shittier economies and less potential.
Europe is also not a real continent. Its borders can be redefined if there is a need for it. Cyprus despite being right next to Syria is in Europe but Anatolia is somehow too remote to be considered a part of Europe.

>>212994594
>If Turkey had 20-30 million people, it would be already be in EU.
If Turkey was just Thrace, it would've already gotten in. Probably with Bulgaria, years ago.
But Anatolia.... Kurds.... Arab refugees..... problems.

>>212994593
Turkey-Russia-China is a triangle waging a cold war in the *stans in central Asia.
Meanwhile, Europe is selling whole ass ports to China.

>>212994586
turkey is nation of scammers just like india.

>>212994594
turkey is in europe, that's a geographical fact. another geographical fact is georgia and armenia are not in europe, but also candidates.

>>212993862 (OP)
I believe it's more about Europe being better off without Turkey.
They should be capable of change by themselves, aswell as mutual beneficial collaboration within their own cultural sphere. Don't you think?
I doubt they'd join to chip in on the gibs and development of Eastern Europe so that leaves me guessing you are a turk on your big European vacation.

>>212994642
competition and antagonism aren't the same thing
by your logic Russia is anti-chinese, which they aren't

>>212994594
No a single definition of Europe puts Asia Minor (it's in the name) in it. European borders are defined and solid everywhere except the east.

>>212994526
>nigger bulgaria is a servant country to germany and france like the rest of the eu
If that was true, then North Macedonia would've already been in the EU.
If that was true, then France wouldn't have lost their court case against us regarding truck drivers having to go to their home country to rest.

Conservative Protectionist Latins vs Market Liberal German-Slavs is an ongoing struggle in the EU, but its not the only show in town. Orban single handedly sabotagging EU efforts against Russia should show you how much power individual countries have in the union.

>>212993862 (OP)
We welcome our European brothers to the Union!

>>212994680
Russia is anti-chinese, and China is anti-russian. Their current affair is only because Russia is desperate, and China is bending them over the table. One side has no choice, the other is enjoying a sweet deal while it lasts.

>>212993862 (OP)
>Give me 1 (one) reason
Failed coup less than a decade ago

>>212994101
Your population would make it so that the real EU core loses relevance. The only reason Romania and Bulgaria got accepted is for better control over them(look at the port disputes between them, Poland also suffers from port disputes).

>>212994613
do you know syrians had to escape to europe and turkey because turkey's support for jihadists in syria?

>kurds

maybe turks shouldnt have occupied and turkified kurdish areas

>anatolia

eternal islamic serf roach region

>thrace

most irrelevant region of the country.


turkey is basically colony of kurds and black sea people at this moment.

>>212994684
Look at a map of France. You will be shocked how far it goes OUTSIDE OF EUROPE.
And Spain has two city-states in Africa, where they are literally fencing off the nogs trying to step on the golden EU soil and turn refugees via touching it.

EU isn't just in Europe, and never was. Fuck, we are still entertaining Georgia, which is in the far end of Anatolia.

>>212994594
asia minor is definitionally not europe (but you could still get in, french guyana is in lmao)

>>212994657
>turkey is in europe

sup memed how is portugal? if proximity of turkey to europe makes this islamic nation european we can count north africa as part of europe as well.

>>212993966
yeah. you want your colonies to be smaller. Croatia had always been a province of some empire and the population never exceeded 3 million before the 20th century.

>>212994101
we need more time to prepare

>>212994684
>No a single definition of Europe
>asia minor is definitionally not europe
Borders of Europe can be changed easily. Like I said it's not even a real continent. Actually India and its neighbors are closer to being a continent of their own than Europe is.

>>212993862 (OP)
Fuck off

i prefer turks over anything above the rhine, except norwegians, but just not european

>>212994101
bulgaria and romania joined because of black sea access, and also to not be under direct russian control.

>>212994754
EU and Europe are 2 different things. Just because France has overseas territories doesn't put Europe right next to south America.

>>212994921
Danube + Black Sea + denying Russia + surounding Serbia + highway to Istanbul.
All relevant.

>>212994921
you forgot the most obvious reason - landbridge to Greece&Turkey

shape is better, am autistic
bring em in

>>212993862 (OP)
Erdogan rules for too long probably + way too big population

is turkey's desire to join the eu purely economic?

>>212993862 (OP)
theyre too strong
turkey would just do its own things and ignore what the rest of the eu wants

>>212994999
may as well include Russia at that point

>>212994999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%E2%80%93A_line

best shape desu

>>212994862
It really isn't, there's only grounds for interpretation in the Caucasus region. Going by "Europe is not a real continent" logic we might as well admit Vietnam and Korea.

>>212995062
Hungary already does that
Maybe if the veto is removed that won't be an issue anymore but I doubt they would want to join without veto power.

>>212995072
Obviously the maximalist plan is EU from Lisbon to Vladivostok, but Russia needs to change a lot economically, culturally and politically for that to be feasable.
When was the last time Russians were part of an alliance that they weren't the dictator of? When was the last time our "slavic brothers" were brothers to us, and not bosses? I don't think they want it yet.

>>212993862 (OP)
because they were dicks to us when we joined nato

>>212994999
>tf
>tp

>>212995036
50% of turks unironically think they are european, white and 100% central asian at the same time.

>>212995111
My problem is that Azerbajan probably has more changes to go through than Russia, but they're red on the map.
I think you're overstating Russias problems too, most Russians are pathologically a-political rather than z-zombies, and the biggest fans of the war are elderly women - a dying cohort.
Are the rest of them jingoistic and nationalistic to a degree - sure, all people are. But they're not personally committed to the erasure of Ukrainian identity and imperialism.

>>212995220
Don't worry, 10% of Bulgarians think the same, and its even dumber in our case.

>>212995096
I'm just saying if Cyprus is good enough to be considered a part of Europe then Anatolia is too

>>212995237
>My problem is that Azerbajan probably has more changes to go through than Russia, but they're red on the map.
Azerbajan is just an Albania. The problem with them isn't the little monarch playing CEO, or the islamic larp that nobody there believes. The problem is that they have teritorial pretentions towards Iran, that they won't let go off. More azeris live in Iran than in Azerbajan lamo

So I'd be careful with that one, until the Iran situation is resolved. The monarchy situation isn't worse than Erdogan or Putin. The islamist situation is fake, they are all nationalists.

>>212995111
>When was the last time Russians were part of an alliance that they weren't the dictator of? When was the last time our "slavic brothers" were brothers to us, and not bosses?
Russians are incapable of that, everyone already knows

>>212995264
we wuz khans, n shit, praise Tengri o algo

>>212993862 (OP)
not in europe

>>212995328

>>212993862 (OP)
>Hungary is already in.
Lets just kick them instead

>>212995283
Cyprus is smol
Turkey is huge
For the same reason I doubt Ukraine should join. Imbalances on the market would be more devastating than beneficial.

>>212995387
Ukraine needs to be integrated economically, because the Polish economy is overheated af.
Germany dropped all their surplus capital into Poland, and now Poland needs to drop their surplus capital somewhere. Ukraine is going to be their Mexico, just like how they are Germany's Mexico.

>>212995220
Based AKBOGALAR

>>212995312
>they have teritorial pretentions towards Iran
all will be solved

>>212993932
>Large population
Actually, that's what the EU needs and will need more

>>212995528
>switzerland in
haram, where will mobsters hide their money?

>>212993862 (OP)
Not European enough. Turks don't really share our European values

>>212995528
zhongguo in the union when

>>212995580
Manchus are european, but han are asian subhumans.

Average Anatolian European:

>>212995312
>So I'd be careful with that one, until the Iran situation is resolved.
Pic rel is the ONLY way it can be resolved

>>212995643
this man should be at the head of the EU commission, not zenursula

>>212995532
Europe is closer to Asian population densities than any other region in the world. We don't need people and whoever gave you that idea doesn't have the best of intentions for the world currently missing investments.

>>212995656
Inshallah.

>>212994759
French Guyana is France

>>212995791
Based

>>212995528
this is what we could if Temujin had a better inheritance system

>>212995573
>our european values
>sending a 0.25 euro tikkie to your best friend
>eating dinner in front of your kid's friend
>giving your daughter's black bf condoms
>throwing a party because your 10 year old son came out as a tranny
No, thank you

>>212995643
this man should be EU comissioner for Racism

>>212993862 (OP)
it's already in, it's called germany

>>212995832
>sex bad!!!! le degeneracy!!!!!
have sex

>>212995832
Do turks realize that they are "black" in Europe?

>>212995643

Isn't there a conflict between Greece and Turkey and Cyprus and Turkey?

>>212993862 (OP)
They aren't European, actually we should nuke Ankara

>>212993862 (OP)
Didn't he just violently beat down protests again o algo

>>212996185
So did Orban. So did Macron.

>>212993862 (OP)
>EUROPEAN union
>Turkey

>>212993862 (OP)
Are you one of those "bulgarians" ?

>>212996314
>tf
>tp
Turan forgive me....

>>212993862 (OP)
ok let's do it 50-50 ! That would be fair :
-Turkish people belongs to China
- Turkish territory belongs to Europa

>>212995312
>teritorial pretentions towards Iran
Do they really? On the official level, I mean

>>212996342
>bulghar

I'll ask you the opposite question: Name literally ONE (1) reason why we should accept turkey into the EU

>>212996281
We have the least violent police force in the EU. There has not been a single person who was violently beat down like in Western EU countries. The government has paid propagandist who start spamming articles about how x. y. is a traitor serving foreign interest but the police do not hurt a fly here

>>212996475
mo dudes
mo land
mo coast
denying our oponents from having those instead of us
building a bridge to armenia and georgia, post-byzantine european states
securing the upcoming saudi and qatari gas pipelines through syria, now that russia isn't there to stop it

>>212996475
to make the line go up

>>212996529
are we allowed to deport the turks from turkey to turkmenistan? If yes than I accept but if no than turkey shouldn't join

>>212995573
There is no such thing as european vakues though.
A germanic barbarian from the netherlands or a slavic monkey from ukraine has nothing to do with a latin from spain.
You are snowmonkeys with no culture

>>212996383
Not official, but they have songs and TV shows saying stuff like "my Tabriz" (azeri city in Iran) or unification of South and North Azerbajan and so on.
Comparable to Bulgaria-Macedonia stuff. Less than Serbia-Kosovo stuff.

>>212994657
>turkey is in europe
Are you literally retarded?

>>212996572
>are we allowed to deport the turks from turkey to turkmenistan?
there are no turks in turkey, its all slavs and greeks larping

europe isn't a real thing anyway.

>>212996576
You have nothing in common with latins sudaca shitskin

>>212993862 (OP)
Turks deserve to suffer.

>>212996606
they are muslims that call themselves turks, unless both culture and DNA is taken into consideration than there is no point

>>212994356
>turkey is a democracy-autocracy hybrid
Literally every democratic country is some hybrid of a "democracy" and a authoritarian system, be normally a bureucratic oligarchy
>80 million muslims
The European Union celebrates and encourages the increase of muslim population in europe, arguably you would prefer to have a country that leads softpower among them (except you dont because that would piss greatly israelis, iranians and saudis)
>a chaotic economy
This would change if they joined the EU

The real reason is that turkey is a semi-militarized country that constantly does skirmishes in the middle east, has tensions with israel and iran, and has a large population that would easily tip the european economy and its buying power eastwards.
Same reason Russia was never let in and Germany is constantly shunned for trying to trade eastwards.
The atlanticist coallition headed by France and the Uk, want the EU political and economic landscape to be centered in a atlantic (with americans and canadians) axis

>>212996606
People of proper Oghuz Turkmen origin in Turkey do exist, although rare
Theyre Usually Yörük or Avşar, probably 5-15% of the population depending on the region

>>212996655
Religion is nothing, Europe should have a civil religion anyways, not abrahamic larps. Blood matters, material conditions matter, laws and institutions matter. The churches of both Jesus and Mohhamed have proven they are unable to provide these in a modern world, and that parlaiments are better at it. That's my religion.

>>212996686
I think you should get shot for your way of thinking

>>212996636
I'm literally spanish and italian lmao.
Legally, i am spanish as i have a passport/citizenship, and i also happen to live in part of the spanish empire.
For all intents i consider myself latinx though

Why do you think they are related to my race? We do not share "values"

>>212996678
I can't find it, and iirc it was in Bulgarian, but I've seen some genetic test comparing old burials to modern samples from turks in Bulgaria and turks in Anatolia: the bulgarian turks (in Ludogorie/Daliroman especially) were closer to the old turkic grave hills.
Anatolia was very populated by greeks and armenians, turks just got BLEACHED there, as they mostly did here. Slavic pussy is like cyanide for turkic genes.

>>212996686
We should be ruled by philosopher kings with semi deified status

>>212995643
Holly KEK

>>212996736
I think you will find the people with rifles, and the people ordering them, agree with me and would rather shoot you. Fucking catholic taliban crusader larper. Europe was built on denying catholic power, and stripping power away from the church, and towards secular rule. That's what Europe is, and thats why we conquered. That's why the Balkans fell back, because the Ottomans wouldn't allow secularism to rise.

Europe is alafranga, and you are a white arab.

>>212996746
Youre not Spanish or European, macaque monkey

>>212994526
>franceshit
>having any role in the eu
Pick one.
The eu is a german project

>>212996800
I know more people irl that would want to shoot you than not just for thinking about letting Turkey join EU and none of them are catholic. Not wanting animals to be let into Europe is universal

>>212996800
>secularism
Literally all secular countries are ruled by a jewish elite

A perfect example is how the anglo snowroaches suffered an elite replacement in America and now their whole oligarchy is jewish.
Same with Russia after the communist revolution

Europe was always a Greco-roman project and catholicism is a greco-roman project.

You are just a turkified slav and thats why your brain is primitive

>>212995793
And its not fully part of the eu

>>212996878
It's akin to vassal state, just like puerto rico is to the US

>>212996818
Take it out against my passport.
You are the one that is not Spanish.
If we were in the iron age you would literally be my slave

>>212996750
As I said Turkic genes mainly exist in isolated pockets in the countryside of Western Turkey, especially the Aegean and Mediterranean coast. Lots of them in Mersin especially, some with almost full Central Asian phenotype.
Oghuz Turks are made up 24 clans and a few of them have actually managed to survive in Turkey
Most Turks however today have zero link to any of the 24 clans

>>212996926
you are kurdish

Unfortunately Turkey is both Muslim AND in Asia...so thats the doozie part

>Thrace!
Technically belongs to Greece IIRC but they stole it in the olden times.

>>212996923
A passport means nothing, anyone can get an EU passport these days,
You are a rootless new world mutt

>>212996746
Can you tell me about "latina women"? How often do you see them? What are they like?

>>212996954
Youre brown

>>212996896
Its not part of schengen and most of eu law doesnt even apply its only tied to france.
I dont think turkey will accept becoming a vassal state kek

>>212993862 (OP)
yeah okay now tell us which other european country is
>Muslim!
>Corrupt!
>At war in Cyprus!
>Too many Turks!
>Not white enough!

>>212996970
>A passport means nothing
It means i got a citizenship via ius sanguini.
>You are a rootless new world mutt
Not how it works btw, you are however a rootless cosmopolitan living in some irrelevant peninsula that didnt appear in the historical record up to the 10th century
>europe
>we europeans
>european culture
Lmao even, imagine trying to sneak in the same bag as greeks and romans while being some barbarian

>>212996976
They are whores

>>212997034
Turkey shouldn't become vassal state, it's existential threat to all of Europe so it should be dealt with accordingly

>>212997091
I dont identify with Europe
Im Asian

>>212997067
Trve R1A brahmin aryan defending EVROPA against turks while the bulghar asiatic is inviting them

>>212997146
Ewww oriental thats even worse

>>212997148
i actually want the turkey to join the eu

>>212997250
Pakistan mogs you

>>212997250
the turks*

>>212997264
couldn't give a fuck desu

>>212994346
more like the full suppa israel policy