how nice is passenger rail in your country?

>>212994305 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpa3ADIRmoI

This video is pretty representative

>>212994415
Add stations that are borderline collapsing and a lot more delays and it is accurate

it's dogshit. 20 years behind the rest of europe.

its bad, and our coastalfags dont even know it exists because they dont even operate there.

>>212994305 (OP)
>Excluding metro?
Very nice actually, they are getting resurrected so they are technically very few but modern
>Including metro
Eh, decent I guess.

>>212994305 (OP)
We have more km of high speed rail lines per capita than any other country in the planet (and second by total length)
They are neat and some times surprisingly cheap. A while ago I went from Madrid to Barcelona and back on the same day for like 30€.

>>212994305 (OP)
meh
stadler makes low quality trains

>>212995060
why can't we be more like you

>>212995060
How the fuck did Spain of all places accomplish this? Everyone gushes about German engineering, France has invested in their TGV for decades, Britain fucking invented trains, but Spain ends up coming out with the best and most advanced high speed network???

>>212994305 (OP)
Overall, on a national level? Shit, disgracefully bad, we should have a proper bullet train linking at least Sydney to Canberra or to Brisbane but not even that.
Locally? Eh it's alright, in Brisbane I can get to Noosa (wonderful top tier beach area) for only 50 cents by just riding the train and then taking a bus.

>>212995178
because, as an anglo retard, you have a completely skewed vision of what spain is. don't beat yourself up about it.

>>212994415
DA FUCK is that nigger complaining about?
That's better than what you find in Germany, for example.
I've never seen a bathroom on a train look so nice. Even has a ceramic sink.

>>212994904
Why do Balkan hate trains so much? There is almost no service there

>coastalfags dont even know it exists because they dont even operate there
There is cross border sleeper service during the summer to the coast, it is actually pretty comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf-P14ms4sY

>>212995240
That guy describes the problems very accurately but it is funny he has no idea how bad it can actually get because he complains even though the train was completely punctual until Kelenfold like if every IC kept the schedule like that there would be less complains lol

>>212995060
Spanish trains are great, equal to japan’s. HSR was fast and cheap, way less of a dickpain than flying. Regional trains were kino too (at least in Galicia where I visited)

>>212995238
Still doesn't answer the question, Brazilian Guiana. Italy, Germany and France are major industrial economics with their own world renown engineering firms in rail, so why aren't they ahead of Spain in this metric? Germany especially, given that they're more densely populated and wealthier

>>212995178
Despite the memes we are extremely good at building infrastructure. We can build HSR for half the price of what France pays and even less, even when accounting for PPP. Our WHOLE HSR system costed so far less than what the UK is going to pay for their HS2 line (which is like just a few hundred km), or the projected cost of the San Francisco-Los Angeles high speed line.
It's not just hsr. For the same reasons we have the longest highway system in the EU and more km of metro lines combined than any other EU country (and again 1st in each spot when you account for per capita).
For context Madrid built 200km of metro (and I mean true, heavy rain, underground metro) from 1995 to 2007, something only seen in some chinese cities.

>>212995380
heavy rail*

>>212995380
Yeah but why?
Less regulations? Less legal bureaucracy for eminent domain? What's the secret formula here that makes it more efficient in Madrid than in Paris?

>>212994305 (OP)
>high-speed rail
Generally quite good, probably among the best in Europe
>local rail
Middling to bad, depends on the city.

>>212994305 (OP)
It's pretty good. I prefer it over taking the car

>>212995422
I'm not Spanish but it is probably a combination of strong political support with centralized plans to reduce costs (relatively basic copy-pasted metro stations vs each station designed by a different architecture company for example), little opposition from the population, relatively low labour costs due to stagnating economy and ideal geography with dense population hotspots spread out across an otherwise relatively empty country. Spain is really good at infrastructure, their railways, highways and metro is world class. The only complaint is that their HSR trains are rather short and the rolling stock fleet is not that large.

>>212995422
There are many factors but I think one of the main ones is that our country is relatively sparsely populated aside from the medium/large and dense cities, which means building infrastructure between cities is very cheap (you don't have to navigate around massive suburbs and evade countless tiny towns). Pic rel.
On the other hand dense cities means it just makes economic sense to develop infrastructure inside them such as metro lines, as each km of metro built will get you far more benefits than in other less dense cities.
There are a few other aspects like how the contracts and budgets are awarded and structured but I can't really talk about those points because I'm not familiar with that.

we dont have train

>>212994305 (OP)
"signal error" is the universal term for when the train gets stuck in the middle of nowhere for 18 hours here

>>212994305 (OP)
>how nice is passenger rail in your country?

it's terrible

>private railway
yes
>national railway
no

>>212994305 (OP)
We only have metros and light rail

>>212995148
That's what aligning with the Br*tish gets you. Honestly Portuguese can't blame anyone but themselves.

>>212995265
theres a passenger route to knin-split. also one to rijeka. but thats still very bad for the other 70% of people who live on the coast.

>>212994305 (OP)
it's slow and late most of the time, but at least most of the country is connected. saved me a lot money when i was in uni and could just go home for the weekend almost for free

>>212994305 (OP)
>ICE in europe
brings people savely to their destination at a fair price
>ICE in the USA
unlawfully deports citizens into concentration camps.
Now let THAT sink in.

>>212995377
Germany has planes

>>212994305 (OP)
shit