Is there a better example of a Larp country?

israel

>>213016953 (OP)
Palestine

>>213016982
>>213016987
Why not both?

>>213016953 (OP)
Türkiye

>>213016953 (OP)
It is Macedonian. See?

>>213016953 (OP)
Why would a Mexican care?

>Is in the northern part of Macedonia
>Officially calls itself North Macedonia
>NOOO We are heckin Macedonia and not North Macedonia the Greeks stole our name from us

>>213016953 (OP)
Azerbaijan (Persians)
Turkmenistan (Persians)
Uzbekistan (Persians, other Iranians)
Kyrgyzstan (Iranians)

Iraq (Babylonians, Assyrians)
Syria (Aramaeans)
Lebanon (Phoenicians)

>>213016953 (OP)
No one falls for their larp. Greece is a better example.

>>213017935
trvth supernova

>>213016953 (OP)
So what were they before getting raped by slavs?

>>213017347
Who cares about some northern outpost, the heart if Macedonia were along the coast

>>213016953 (OP)
How did it even become an independent country? And why?

>>213017347
>>213018888
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagonia

>>213016953 (OP)
I believe the FYROMians stopped all of their cringy alexander the great larping and accepted they're bulgaro-slavs because greece kept refusing to let them into the welfare union

>>213020493
>stopped all of their cringy alexander the great larping
lol
lmao even

>>213020493
why they can't just be both? obviously modern Macedonians are a mix of ancient Greeks as well as Slavic newcomers

>>213016953 (OP)
Turkey
Israel

>>213018980
Dissolution of Yugoslavia...whatever happened there

>>213020807
>Dissolution of Yugoslavia
the biggest geopolitical tragedy of 20th century, don't even try to question that

btw, why Greece did not have any conflict with Yugoslavia over Macedonia? They already used this name before 1990 after all.

Israel
Russia

>>213020738
How is this allowed? Delete this slavo-muslim rapebaby country

>>213016982
fpbp

>>213016953 (OP)
Hungary
Turkey
Azerbaijan
Greece
Lebanon
Iran
Pakistan
India

Too many to name

>>213017347
White sea bulgaria
>macedonian
Raaaaaaaa

>>213017347
That little part should be annexed into Greece for consistency purposes.

>>213020765
>are a mix of ancient Greeks
They're not.

>>213016953 (OP)
Prussia is another interesting example since they were larping downwards instead of upwards like the Northmaceretards do.
>Germanic spergs conquer insignificant Baltic tribe called the Prussians
>Germanic spergs adopt the name Prussia and endonym Prussians themselves
Why did they even do that? We may never know.

>>213016953 (OP)
*North

>>213023646
it had less to do with the ethnonym for Prussians, simply that land was called Prussia so they took that name from the land, and since Prussians were already long gone, no one really thought about them as people

but having said that, you must know that Teutons actually kind of respected Baltic Prussians for hard resistance they put up against them, there were a lot of cases where Prussians would defeat Teutonic armies despite the latter having huge technological advantage

most likely reason is the Prussian religion (which is only barely known and only through Christian sources), which included belief in some form of reincarnation (probably old Indo-European heritage) and the warriors who died in the battle were promised to be reborn in noble families, while those who died just from diseases/old age were supposed to get a new "life" only as stones, trees etc. That's why Prussians would never retreat from the battlefield, almost seeking death there, fighting zealously and fiercely, so they were a serious problem to Germans.

>>213016953 (OP)
Controversial opinion coming out of a Bulgarian, but I think they are a separate country with their own culture and language.

>>213023499
It is a fact of living on the peninsula. Can't deny it. People have mingled with one another quite a lot. Also nation != blood, where does this retarded notion come from?

>>213020820
Have you thought that Yugoslavia acted as a single entity in international affairs? It was called Federal Republic of Yugoslavia for a reason. The name Macedonia was used to refer to a federal subject within the republic, no one outside of Yugoslavia called it Macedonia. I assume you don't know what's a federation, if you are asking such a question.

>>213025666
>no one outside of Yugoslavia called it Macedonia
still im pretty sure Greeks knew Yugoslavs use this name and could be butthurt as well

>>213025711
Following that line of thinking, Greeks should be offended at Bulgarians for using Thracia or Romanians for using Dacia. I bet the whole FYROM shabang happened, because of some opportunist retard politician trying to build a career made a fuss about it. Also, the names of most regions were first named by the Greeks and they stuck around, lol. They should start issuing claims on all of the Balkans and Turkey. The issue with the naming on the Macedonian side is probably even more confusing, since they were thrown around between empires.

>>213025666
>Controversial opinion coming out of a Bulgarian
Don't forget to mention it's also wrong, and quite possibly intentionally retarded, which is much worse than just retarded.

>>213026080
What exactly makes it wrong? Nations come and go, Macedonia is an example of that situated in recent history. I doubt the Bulgarians bitching about "our Macedonia, we are one nation" would welcome all of the Pomaks, Albanians and other wonderful minorities, since you people are quite hostile to Bulgarian Turks and Pomaks inside our very country. The reality is much more nuanced than what our propaganda tells you.

>b-b-but history
The Greeks can make the same argument and say "Hey guys, you weren't here before 681, could you politely fuck off?". Your brain is being targeted by the 4th estate and you fell for it. There isn't a cohesive explanation as to how the Bulgarian nation came to be. History books tell you "Something Proto-Bulgarians, Slavs, Thracians, blabla" and never give you the full picture, because even professors do not have the full picture, but rather some clues. Also, the whole nation-state shit of the 18th century is pure autism.

>oldest country in Europe
Nigger, "we" were not on the map for 400 years. No fucking peasant was sitting in his village being like "dude, we are so cool, it would be so cool to be a country". This is the same predicament with Macedonia, people just couldn't come up with another name.

>oldest city in Europe
Yeah, thank you Thracians for building fucking Philippopolis. We do not even speak your Greek-derived language anymore, fellow Thracians. Just some leftover genes and items from you.

Identities are largely made-up. But it takes more than being a retard.

>>213020738
>>213020765
As per the Prespa Agreement:
>Also, there is an explicit clarification that the citizens of the country are not related to the ancient Hellenic civilization that inhabited the northern regions of modern-day Greece.
>Specifically, Article 7 mentions that both countries acknowledge that their respective understanding of the terms "Macedonia" and "Macedonian" refers to a different historical context and cultural heritage.
>When reference is made to Greece, these terms denote the area and people of its northern region, as well as the Hellenic civilization, history and culture of that region. When reference is made to the Republic of North Macedonia, these terms denote its territory, language and people, with their own, distinctly different, history and culture.

The reception to the deal was enormously Balkan:
>In Macedonia, the President of the Republic, Gjorge Ivanov, declared that he would not sign the agreement, calling it "disastrous". Additionally, VMRO-DPMNE, the main conservative party at the time, also opposed the agreement, and pledged to organize public protests against it.
>In Macedonia, protests went violent at Skopje, and Macedonian SDSM MP Hari Lokvenec, who attended the Prespa ceremony, had his parliamentary vehicle set on fire at Bitola by unidentified perpetrators.

>In Greece, Golden Dawn (GD), a far-right party, and the Communist Party of Greece (CPG), a far-left party, opposed the agreement, with a Golden Dawn MP, Konstantinos Barbarousis, calling for military rule and firing squads to execute politicians responsible for the deal. As a result, Barbarousis was expelled from his party, and a warrant was issued for his arrest for high treason. He fled using his parliamentary vehicle but eventually was found and arrested.
>Additionally, the conservative New Democracy party filed a motion of no-confidence against Tsipras in parliament because of the name deal

>>213026046
i never understood this fuss about the name of Macedonia either, after all sharing a region with the same name between 2 countries is a normal thing in Europe and no one accuses the other country of stealing history

>>213027746
And do you notice the trend? It is all poor helpless countries. All of their people get told of some supposed glorious past that might or might not have happened, but it is never questioned, since it is in our history books, and the average Joe takes it, no questions asked. Not to mention most of these people are incapable of looking for scientific data on their own. As some biased professor is publishing his own "science", which is enough for them. Even better, there are retards making shit up in random ass Facebook groups, and since it is appealing they start parroting it.

Look at any normal European country. People never tell you 1400 my ancestor Sashko Jankovic took over Kosova Republik. "My ancestor, but my parents were Turks from Anatolia that converted to Christianity once the country gained independence" Incapable politicians have nothing else to offer on the table and just stir up non-existant trouble. The saddest part is that the poorest and the most retarded are the ones who care the most about it. Instead of channeling their energy into improving their destitution.

Normal Europeans are just mildly nationalistic, the sort of "I will buy only Polish" that type of shit. No one goes to tell you about their supposedly great history and how proud they are that they supposedly came up with the Cyrillic alphabet. How are such things even relevant?

Live in the present moment, you fucking niggers. What your stupid ass king did or didn't do 500 years ago isn't relevant. Your country is a literal shithole now, a laughing stock. People are leaving en masse to clean German toilets

>b-b-but muh history
Not to mention how many of these retards are brown and resemble Turks more than Europeans.

>no one accuses
That's why they are contracts signed at the end of every war. The defeated admits what they've lost and puts it on paper. Normal countries respect those and don't change their minds all of a sudden to garner more votes during the next election.

>>213027686
Hilarious we had 2 Balkan wars and the Yugo wars. Some people never learn.

>>213028781
>the sort of "I will buy only Polish" that type of shit.
that's only in western Europe, in Poland we still have this Balkan-tier type of nationalism with people unironically boasting about winning some battle against Germany in the middle ages and drawing comparisons to today's political situation with it

>>213028937
Such things get thrown around in every country once in a while. Most people brush them off as banter. There's always a nationalistic part of the population, and, you know, every vote counts.

Poland is poised to become a powerhouse within the EU in the next couple of years. I doubt many young Poles would be concerned with "we fucked the Germans in X battle, and we should take Lwiw from the Ukrainians." Comparing how many Poles visited our beaches 10 years ago and now is just remarkable. A lot has changed, for the better.

>>213029166
>I doubt many young Poles would be concerned with
there will be no young Poles with our current birth rates so it doesn't matter anyway

>>213029230
>current birth rates
>Population in 1950 - 24,613,684

There was a Polish nation once upon a time with far less than the 40 million people nowadays. Same with most countries. It is just another scary phrase used by politicians. In reality, does not carry any weight.

The concern with birth rates is not a national one, but a capitalist one. They simply need more workers to exploit and more people to sell their shit quality goods to. Oh, and remember to endlessly COOONSUME.

The current structure of the state is hilarious. Young people work to fill up the treasury, and then the state gives it to older people. Meanwhile countries like Norway that have made investments that reap returns don't discuss such petty matters, lol. This is the root cause of all immigration and immigrant labor import, not some cultural marxist jew replacement theory.

Imagine all of your economy being based on permanent expansion and a percentage drop in profits spells disaster for your company. Not to mention the fact, that the purpose of building housing is not to house people, but to make a quick buck, huh. How are these people expected to start a family when they can't even afford one-bedroom apartment. Do you get where I'm going? Having a kid is an expensive, not a part of life. You are born simply to be exploited.

Look throughout history Black Death, Wars, populations have always shrunk and then return back to growth.