/lang/ language learning general - /int/ (#213070668) [Archived: 45 minutes ago]

Anonymous United States
7/23/2025, 9:22:10 PM No.213070668
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bvllgarian princess edition

>What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed)
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

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Anonymous United States
7/23/2025, 9:42:03 PM No.213071296
The last one died so early.
Someone was talking before about how they often run into words that they don't know pretty often compared to English.
I wanted to say that you should just read a lot. It's a good way to learn lots of words in the long run.
If you remember from when you were a little kid, there were a lot of books with words you didn't know. How fast that period ended depends on how much and how often you read as a kid.
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Anonymous Germany
7/23/2025, 9:44:18 PM No.213071387
let's pretend these threads die because people are actually off learning or doing other productive things like acting as billboards for the method or website of some jew or contemplating the financial benefits of learning a specific language
Anonymous Spain
7/23/2025, 9:53:29 PM No.213071705
>>213070668 (OP)
That Wo-MAN is Spanish.
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Anonymous Poland
7/23/2025, 9:54:38 PM No.213071744
>>213070668 (OP)
She is very unlucky. Here condition and a shitty dentist caused that.
Anonymous Poland
7/23/2025, 10:22:06 PM No.213072667
>>213070668 (OP)
What's her bench 1RM?
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Anonymous Canada
7/23/2025, 10:50:52 PM No.213073701
>>213072667
Higher than yours and mine combined
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Anonymous United States
7/23/2025, 11:01:10 PM No.213074040
Man, I really hate feeling mentally disabled when watching shows in my TL.
Anonymous United States
7/23/2025, 11:39:23 PM No.213075205
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 12:07:18 AM No.213076024
This is a general linguistics observation which may not interest any of you:

I think I've noticed an aspectual quirk with the verb "burn" in my dialect.

When the verb is transitive, the past tense and the past participle are both "burnt", not "burned". E.g.:
>I burnt the tire
>I had burnt the tire

When the verb is intransitive, the past participle is "burnt", but the past tense can be either "burned" or "burnt". There seems to be some kind of aspectual difference between the two forms. E.g.:
>The house burnt (up)
This is the simple past and indicates a completed, discrete action.
However, the form
>The house burned
seems to indicate an imperfect aspect. In my speech, it has essentially the same force as
>The house was burning
Therefore, one could say either
>The house burned through the night
or
>The house was burning through the night
but never
>The house burnt through the night

The distribution of "burned" and "burnt" always seemed somewhat random in my dialect, but I think this is the distinction.
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Anonymous Canada
7/24/2025, 12:11:03 AM No.213076126
How's the porn in your TL?
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 1:22:00 AM No.213077838
When people plateau in their language, they're probably just not reading and listening enough to their TL, aren't they?
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/24/2025, 1:35:56 AM No.213078115
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Anonymous Denmark
7/24/2025, 1:36:33 AM No.213078122
file
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>>213070668 (OP)
>She used to look like this
We need to go back
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Anonymous Croatia
7/24/2025, 2:06:47 AM No.213078685
I've been learning spanish on duolingo for quite dome time (level 108). Watched few movies (Relatos salvajes for wxample) in spanish and understood about 70-80% of it. Tried to read Harry Potter but it's still too hard. What do you recommend to use to get really good intermmediate level of spanish.i'm fine working with books but I don't which one to use.
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Anonymous Argentina
7/24/2025, 2:10:50 AM No.213078754
There's only one redeemable place in all of reddit, that being /r/linguistics but for whatever autistic reason it's been like three or four years since it's been shut down
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 3:40:28 AM No.213080308
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>>213078115
Yeah that's exactly what this feels like. All I can get when watching TV in my TL is bits and pieces, like grammatical endings and the rare phrase like "What are you looking at?" or "So cold!" I feel like the Notel residents from picrel.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 5:13:40 AM No.213081690
>>213078115
Got it, B1 is suffice, no need to go further
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 5:45:36 AM No.213082169
>>213078754
They're still protesting reddit fucking with third party apps years later. Most people moved to /r/asklinguistics.
Anonymous Mexico
7/24/2025, 5:58:53 AM No.213082368
>>213070668 (OP)
elle est plus forte et plus mince que moi, c'est fini
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 7:20:08 AM No.213083494
/lang/ ist immer tot
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 8:36:41 AM No.213084469
learning a language and learning a skill at the same time is really useful

I actually find its more efficient for language learning than my normal input

been reading korean tech manuals
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 8:51:24 AM No.213084719
>>213078754
subreddits with a higher barrier to entry from more niche or difficult topic are often quite good. Mainly because they're not frequented by actual redditors, most of the posters only use reddit for that topic and aren't part of broader reddit culture.
Anonymous Australia
7/24/2025, 9:13:16 AM No.213085050
I read more in one of my languages today than I did in an entire month and a half and it only took me 2 hours
Feels bad
esperantisto Australia
7/24/2025, 9:30:22 AM No.213085318
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>>213076024
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:20:41 AM No.213086205
Pimsleur is so fucking good holy shit.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:21:28 AM No.213086224
Anyone know of a good language learning lesson for people just visiting Japan in ~1 month? For the basics
Would pimsleur be good?
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:22:28 AM No.213086246
>>213071296
People that didn’t read a lot growing up are easy to spot because they just don’t know what are actually fairly common literary terms.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:25:32 AM No.213086305
>>213086224
Yes.
Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 10:28:38 AM No.213086365
>>213086224
Buy a booklet of basic phrases for traveling and learn them.
Anonymous Spain
7/24/2025, 10:32:06 AM No.213086459
>>213078685
This is not intended to discourage you, just keep grinding.
Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 11:51:50 AM No.213088047
>>213073701
I wouldn't doubt it.
>>213078122
Not bad. Don't like the short hair tho.
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Anonymous France
7/24/2025, 12:51:50 PM No.213089334
>>213077838

Lot of factors.Main one i guess is trying to keep learning through reading/listening without any contact with the native population wich can lead to a big big suffering.
someone will make much more faster progress in six month in a country barely opening any book or watching anything than someone tryharding really hard through books/movies.
that being said i saw among students who comes in france ending up just forming international communities without integrating with french and ending up making no progress.

depend of your goals (like if you don't care about talking to people) but i guess at one point when you're b2 the best advise is to actually live for six months in the country and try to be extroverted without giving up and join your local community.

i guess a lot here a pretty young without a gf or children so go do woofing or a trail or whatsoever you want.
Anonymous Australia
7/24/2025, 1:24:13 PM No.213090068
>>213070668 (OP)
Jesus Macron's wife is jacked.
Anonymous Italy
7/24/2025, 3:03:25 PM No.213092327
Just imagine yourself learning Russian, yes russian, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.
Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 3:25:37 PM No.213092899
language learning general
language learning general
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Hello my good friends.
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 3:55:39 PM No.213093663
Should I learn Russian?
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Anonymous Serbia
7/24/2025, 3:59:51 PM No.213093775
>>213077838
The further in you are, the more time you need to see results. At some point even a respectable 3h a day barely moves the needle.
Anonymous Russian Federation
7/24/2025, 4:03:07 PM No.213093863
christopher-moltisanti-crying
christopher-moltisanti-crying
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>Learned Chinese at the university
>Travelled to China and lived there for year
>Got HSK5
>Tried to find an interpreter job
>Finally got the position at some construction company, but first they suggested I attend one conference meeting and try interpreting the conversation
>I'm full of confidence, think I can do
>It's a gigantic fail
>The Chinese guy has a thick southern accent and speaks at the speed of light
>Words won't come out of my mouth
>They had to call in a different interpreter
I'm devastated, the worst thing is I understand like 99% of the words but I just can't memorize the whole sentence, especially if it's a long speech, by the time it ends I forget half the context.
>>213093663
Depends. What for?
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 4:08:49 PM No.213093982
>>213093863
>Depends. What for?
Fun
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Anonymous Brazil
7/24/2025, 4:09:30 PM No.213093998
>>213093863
what was the salary you would get if you didn't bomb the test?
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Anonymous Russian Federation
7/24/2025, 4:17:09 PM No.213094183
>>213093998
They said I can still do the document translations (that's a minor part of the job but still) and meanwhile I shall attend the conferences as a listener to build up my skills, I'm not laid off yet. The salary is like 1800 USD/month
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Anonymous Russian Federation
7/24/2025, 4:18:55 PM No.213094221
>>213093982
Well shit, go for it
Anonymous Greece
7/24/2025, 4:19:06 PM No.213094225
>>213078122
can't imagine having the will to live after such a transformation
Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 4:21:16 PM No.213094280
>>213094183
Out of curiosity, what are the best ways for good salary for the Russians? Work for a business with China and other key partners, probably IT (that's why so many programmers are from the former Eastern Bloc) and what else? Being some kind of official?
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 4:26:45 PM No.213094417
>>213083494
gut
Anonymous Georgia
7/24/2025, 4:27:14 PM No.213094430
>>213094280
The best salary right now is given to Putin's vatnik army, unironically they can get like $5-6k a month and a bag Cheetos for their families if they die or something. Aside from that, yeah, IT workers mostly, managers in big tech corporations like Yandex get a sizeable salary.
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Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 4:28:39 PM No.213094469
the fuck is a TL
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 4:29:33 PM No.213094498
>>213094469
target language
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Anonymous Bulgaria
7/24/2025, 4:30:12 PM No.213094514
>>213070668 (OP)
bulgarians don't have a king so she is nobody's princess except maybe her family's native region in germany

>>213071705
she's german, not spanish
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Anonymous Russian Federation
7/24/2025, 4:34:13 PM No.213094638
>>213094280
People working with the Chinese partners don't really get that much more money than others, it's just that China and a bunch of shitholes are the only possible trade partners Russia can have so they're hiring Chinese translators in hopes that they can help them build connections with the Chinese companies to get steady and stable flow of goods and materials. The thing is the Chinese are incredibly hard to work with, they lie and fuck you over at every possible situation
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Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 4:37:44 PM No.213094739
>>213094498
aaaah, of course. vielen dank
>>213093663
join me in my catastrophic quest to learn it
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Anonymous Spain
7/24/2025, 4:40:55 PM No.213094815
>>213094514
>bulgarians
She is 50% Spanish. Her husband is 100% Spanish. Their children are 75% Spanish.
Kalina de Sajonia-Coburgo-Gotha y Gómez-Acebo o Kalina de Bulgaria (Madrid, 17 de enero de 1972) es la única hija del rey Simeón II de Bulgaria y de su esposa Margarita Gómez-Acebo.[2]
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 4:42:19 PM No.213094857
Anyone know of a good Tibetan grammar written for Sámi speakers?
Anonymous Bulgaria
7/24/2025, 4:42:53 PM No.213094877
>>213094815
you stupid faggot, that's how the germans controlled your FAGGOT country for a thousand years, they come in, fuck your women, never bother to learn spanish and call themselves kings of your people despite having nothing to do with your people
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 4:43:58 PM No.213094908
>>213094739
bare hyggelig min neger
Anonymous Bulgaria
7/24/2025, 4:45:43 PM No.213094959
>>213094815
Her name is Bulgarian, does that make her Bulgarian? Or her brothers? Or her father and grandfather? They all had Bulgarian names, it doesn't make them Bulgarian, they come from a noble German family that ruled half of Europe.
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Anonymous Russian Federation
7/24/2025, 4:53:12 PM No.213095165
>>213094280
IT and dentists. Other than that you either need to get lucky to get a good position in a field other than IT (they exist, but rare), or to book a plane ticket.
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 4:57:03 PM No.213095269
With the way YouTube autodubs videos into your region's language (even if lots of people find it annoying), do you think that in the future, we'll just have auto-translation devices that translate the words of the person you're looking at and transmit the AI translation into your ear via an earbud or something?
An English speaker who doesn't know Mandarin and a Mandarin speaker who doesn't know English could converse if each had such a device.
Even if it's inferior to just knowing the other language, it might make even fewer people want to learn another language.
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Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 5:24:03 PM No.213096078
>>213095269
>it might make even fewer people want to learn another language.
People don't want to learn languages already and I can't blame them. There's no point in learning any language besides english unless you want to move to another country. I'll probably never speak another language as well as I speak english for many reasons, but the most important one is that I don't care about the content in fucking french, spanish, or whatever language people here are learning.
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Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 5:38:26 PM No.213096472
i'm struggling so much with шщжхчц
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 5:45:12 PM No.213096668
>>213096472
ngmi
>>213096078
ngmi
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Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 5:47:03 PM No.213096726
>>213096668
i know
Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 5:52:20 PM No.213096879
>>213096668
I made it long time ago.
Anonymous Italy
7/24/2025, 6:00:25 PM No.213097138
>>213092899
Change one of the wishes to "dónde está el baño"
Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 6:15:48 PM No.213097624
>>213094430
>>213094638
>>213095165
Thx. I forgot about dentistry. It was one of the best majors here for a long time.
I've heard about the cunning nature of the Chinese. I used to think that it might be the non-Christian aspect of the nation (I hear similar things about Indians), but there are other non-Christian, Asian peoples who do not have such an opinion so idk
>>213095269
There are shit tons of Japanese translations and Japanese learning community is still huge.
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Anonymous Spain
7/24/2025, 6:16:25 PM No.213097649
>>213094877
>faggot, that's how the germans controlled your FAGGOT
You are obsessed with faggots. Why your boyfriend dumped you?

>>213094959
Gomez Acebo is a Spanish surname. She is 50% Spanish. Period. You can keep the monster though.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 6:20:11 PM No.213097763
>>213097624
>There are shit tons of Japanese translations and Japanese learning community is still huge.
Sure, but I think that's because people learn Japanese out of cultural appreciation for Japan.
People who learn languages because they want to talk to their boyfriend or girlfriend's grandparents, or because they need to be able to communicate for business, could just wear that hypothetical AI autodubbing device.
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 6:22:43 PM No.213097855
>>213086224
very little you can learn in one month even just for tourism japanese is pretty difficult. I'd recommend lessons talking with a teacher plus spam repeating and memorizing a bunch of canned phrases.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 6:29:12 PM No.213098090
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>>213086224
Watch 3 hours of Comprehensible Japanese at complete beginner level every day for all 30 of those days, and maybe supplement with other comprehensible input. Also read this grammar primer: https://zenith-raincoat-5cf.notion.site/The-Refold-Japanese-Grammar-Primer-1a8782c8c7334dea97f7af0a686b72c3
This table of demonstratives also might help.
Use the Kaishi 1.5k deck to start memorizing words early on.
After one month, you still won't understand Japanese, but you might start to catch bits and pieces. Maybe after a year and a half. But for communication, yeah you'd just be better off memorizing phrases.
Anonymous Brazil
7/24/2025, 6:32:04 PM No.213098202
>>213095269
>do you think that in the future, we'll just have auto-translation devices that translate the words of the person you're looking at and transmit the AI translation into your ear via an earbud
This already exists, obviously, if you go to some other country, no one is going to be using it because what normal person expects to communicate with foreigners while they're shopping for groceries at the local market? I haven't tried it, but I guess it's useful if you're travelling and you're curious about natives talking shit about you in their language
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 6:37:41 PM No.213098419
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>>213098202
Oh wow, you're right, something like this does already exist. Crazy.
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Anonymous Poland
7/24/2025, 6:37:49 PM No.213098425
>>213097763
We've had this for a long time. For basic use, Google Translate works great. For technical or legal matters, or for casual conversations involving high cultural context (colloquialisms, culturally obvious things, idioms, jokes), translators suck for now, and a voiceover won't help with crappy translations. Unless these things start translating idioms and context like those walls of text in anime subtitles.
Anonymous France
7/24/2025, 6:42:57 PM No.213098612
>>213078115
The view from the Lac Blanc is so gorgeous it makes me want to tear up.
Anonymous France
7/24/2025, 6:45:21 PM No.213098710
>>213093863
How the hell did you get the confidence to work as an interpreter with only HSK 5 ?
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Anonymous Brazil
7/24/2025, 6:46:30 PM No.213098747
>>213098419
That's too fucking expensive and big lol, I've seen $40 buds that do the same, I'd rather just use my phone if I had to carry that around
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 7:19:15 PM No.213099996
620D4A05-AB99-4576-B1EE-EDABCC86EEFC
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>>213097624
Huh, the way I always heard it put is.
>Chinese are decently trustworthy to follow contracts
>Japanese will take advantage of their cultural differences by placing the onus on you to know all the differences, and “fake agree” to stuff by sending subordinates that don’t really have authority without telling you
>Koreans will actively fuck you over and lie/cheat you
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 8:19:24 PM No.213102301
>>213098419
>we made a translation app
>which comes on a device
>the size of a small smartphone
>with modified android on it
>no you can't get just the app for your android device
what kind of retard shit is this lol
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 8:25:28 PM No.213102526
>>213095269
I'm honestly optimistic about this maintaining languages other than English.
My GF is an engineer and they need to have professional levels of English because 99% of material spec sheets only exist in English and Mandarin.
Likewise if you're writing or recording anything, doing it in English instead of your native language gets you access to an audience 100X bigger.
This has happened a few times with things like colonial languages and always leads to the death of the less important langs.

With basically perfect translation thoughever (especially as it gets better with tone and emotion) you can just produce it in your native language and everyone can hear it in theirs.
People won't even notice a website wasn't produced in their native lang, the whole internet will simply be in their language by default.
That removes the force pushing everyone to English.

Learning languages won't have the same value for work prospects, but for those who are interested or want to live somewhere without a layer of tech in the middle of their conversations it will still be worth it.

AI will obviously still destroy our social fabric and usher in a new feudal age, but for langs I think it's a net positive.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 8:48:22 PM No.213103483
>>213076126
There's very little of it. (Esperanto)
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 8:52:56 PM No.213103669
>>213103483
kind of silly to assume the reddit language is popular among people who have sex
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Anonymous Russian Federation
7/24/2025, 9:06:10 PM No.213104169
>>213098710
I lived in China, nigga
Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 9:07:57 PM No.213104236
List of words that sound the closest to the holy word in each language

English: niggard
French: nigaud (nitwit)
German: Nager (rodent)
Lithuanian: negera (bad)
Chinese: nàge (that one)
Korean: nega (you)
Japanese: niigata (new lagoon, city in Chūbu)
Norwegian: nygga (collide)
Slavic: knyga (book)
Any more?
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Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 9:17:08 PM No.213104622
>>213103669
Quite a bit of sex happens in Esperantujo, in fact, to the point that TEJO (the world Esperanto youth organization) had to start giving out condoms at their conferences, it's just none of it has ended up on videotape so far.
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Anonymous Germany
7/24/2025, 9:21:42 PM No.213104785
>>213104236
since in korean 네가 (nega = you + subject marker) sounds so similar to 내가 (naega = i + subject marker), they often say 니가 (niga) instead, now i'm not sure if nega or niga is closer to nigger...
>>213104622
imagine the smell of that convention yeesh
Anonymous Italy
7/24/2025, 9:28:39 PM No.213104991
>>213104236
>Japanese: niigata (new lagoon, city in Chūbu)
nigai (bitter)
Replies: >>213105020
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 9:29:51 PM No.213105020
>>213104991
nigeru (to run away)
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 9:44:42 PM No.213105509
>>213104622
I googled it and couldn't find anything about it
Replies: >>213105597
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 9:47:02 PM No.213105597
>>213105509
Google "tejo protektas vin".
Anonymous Brazil
7/24/2025, 9:57:22 PM No.213106068
>>213104236
>Any more?
Portuguese: Nego (basically same meaning as nigga, but it's halal to use)
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:02:42 PM No.213106271
>>213104236
Spanish: negar (to deny or refuse)
The conjugations, though (niego, niegas, etc.), sound less like it.
Whenever you say "negro" (black) here people are like "Is that the n-word?" so maybe that.
Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 10:08:29 PM No.213106494
>try to watch a bunch of videos in french to improve oral comprehension
>almost no improvement
>give up and just read wikipedia articles and play Pokémon in French
>watch video today and i can understand most of the sentences
When did you realise that oral comprehension isn't about recognising the sounds of the lsnguage but your brain being like ChatGPT predicting each word after another?
Replies: >>213106614 >>213113284
Anonymous Italy
7/24/2025, 10:11:12 PM No.213106614
>>213106494
It's a mix of the two things, really.
This is why people who say that "listening and speaking are completely different skills" are wrong, btw.
Replies: >>213113284
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:11:57 PM No.213106656
>>213104236
In beijing dialect 那个 is often pronounced “nayge”
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:33:32 PM No.213107536
>>213098419
You don't need a dedicated device for this lol just install Google Translation and turn on conversation mode.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:36:56 PM No.213107682
>>213086224
There's nothing you can do in a month. Just memorize canned phrases like please, thank you, where is the blowjob bar, and how much for one night at a love hotel, and you'll be fine.
Replies: >>213108230
Anonymous United Kingdom
7/24/2025, 10:37:10 PM No.213107692
Guys, I think I am going to learn Russian.
Replies: >>213113801
Anonymous South Korea
7/24/2025, 10:38:54 PM No.213107774
>>213070668 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pan08ytJ_5w

What's his accent
I thought he was Indian until I saw the face
Replies: >>213107885
Anonymous United Kingdom
7/24/2025, 10:40:17 PM No.213107836
>>213099996
>Chinese are decently trustworthy to follow contracts
There is this middle ground of genuinely good Chinese companies to do business with, but they are hidden among a bunch of shit ones who will try their damnedest to fuck you over.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:41:20 PM No.213107885
>>213107774
Turkish
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:43:02 PM No.213107953
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Инпютитe
Anonymous United Kingdom
7/24/2025, 10:43:17 PM No.213107964
>>213093982
Based. The only valid reason to learn a language.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:44:34 PM No.213108020
file
file
md5: d336c6865ab059f9b3720f77e62fd0a5🔍
>he didn't input
Anonymous Italy
7/24/2025, 10:49:30 PM No.213108230
>>213107682
>There's nothing you can do in a month. Just memorize canned phrases like please,
kudasai
>thank you,
arigato
>where is the blowjob bar,
sopurandowa doko deska
>and how much for one night at a love hotel, and you'll be fine.
itotsuno yoruwa ikura deska
Replies: >>213108414
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 10:53:20 PM No.213108414
>>213108230
"One night's lodging" is "ippaku".
Anonymous Denmark
7/24/2025, 11:20:17 PM No.213109480
>>213088047
>Don't like the short hair tho.
Pixie haircuts are gods gift to mankind.
Anonymous United States
7/24/2025, 11:37:08 PM No.213110098
Learning a language is kind of like being tranny, isn't it? You're trying to pass as a native speaker in accent, output, cultural understanding, etc., but although you can approach it, you will never be a native speaker.
Only like 0.1% will ever pass as native speakers.
Foreign accents are tolerated because of explicit training to overcome bigotry, but the instinct of a native speaker is to say "You will never be one of us!" and then bully you for how retarded your accent sounds, because living in their country for their entire lives (decades) has given them the instinct to sniff out even the subtlest of foreign accents.
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/24/2025, 11:45:46 PM No.213110415
>>213110098
>You're trying to pass as a native speaker in accent
Not at all. I know people who speak English with the heaviest accents imaginable (mainly Poles and Hungarians I work with). I don't give a shit about an accent as long as I am able to understand what is said. I would imagine most people are the same way except turbo retards trying to sell you shit.
Anonymous Norway
7/24/2025, 11:55:00 PM No.213110728
>>213110098
You're sooo valid hon :)
Anonymous Canada
7/25/2025, 12:02:40 AM No.213111017
>>213110098
>You're trying to pass as a native speaker
Speak for yourself
I'm not ashamed to be csl
Anonymous Canada
7/25/2025, 12:06:33 AM No.213111148
My family and I all decided to learn Italian together. They're using Duolingo, but I want to absolutely mogg them what is the best course of action?
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Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 12:08:37 AM No.213111241
>>213111148
Set them on fire while they sleep. Fuckers won't be learning any of that dirty pastafarian after that.
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 12:11:04 AM No.213111323
>>213110098
It's harder with English because it has such a wide range of native accents. Is this person non-native, or are they just from some remote bit of Scotland or Nigeria I've never heard of?
Anonymous Canada
7/25/2025, 12:16:50 AM No.213111514
>>213111148
Put 10x as many hours into it as they do
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 12:22:42 AM No.213111706
>>213111148
start putting in the work, if they're just using duolingo i imagine all of their motivation is going to be sapped and sucked clean assuming they're not paying for the non-gutted version of that shit app. literally just do something and it'll be more return than the duolingo they do. read a chapter from an italian grammar book, you'll probably be styling on them despite not knowing any single word in italian. start learning some words, you'll probably know more meaningful usable words than what they'll get from duolingo. the bar's not high when you're up against the bird
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 12:24:23 AM No.213111770
>>213111148
Dive into using it as much as you're able. Watch Italian youtubers, listen to Italian podcasts, read Italian comics, chat with Italians online, whatever. Also focus on imitating the accent as well as you're able.
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:03:22 AM No.213113284
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>>213106494
>>213106614
That’s why just reading aloud half of LLPSI and reading my Bible occasionally let me suddenly grasp basically all of the colloquial latin people use in talks and stuff.
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:03:54 AM No.213113308
>>213111148
Literally anything should be better. Use Anki to memorize the most common words. Read a grammar book. Listen to comprehensible input.
Duolingo alone teaches you basically nothing. My mother has been doing Duolingo Arabic for a few years now and barely knows anything.
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:05:20 AM No.213113368
>>213110098
It’s like being a tranny in that the people involved are turbo-schizo about not passing and would be much happier if they just cared less
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:15:22 AM No.213113707
>>213111148
Duolingo tries to be all-in-one, doing reading, speaking and listening, but in practice ends up being mediocre for reading and dogshit for speaking and listening. If you do two approaches at once (one listening/speaking, the other reading aloud) you will be able to advance much faster in both than them.

The suggestions people are giving you are way too vague and DIY for a beginner IMO. The best thing for a beginner is a decent, non-tedious method that you can have some degree of blind faith in and diligently do for at least a few months to get you started.

With these in mind, I would recommend Pimsleur to fast track basic spoken comfort, this alone will mog the shit out of your family’s spoken ability by 10x. It’s audio only call-response so you can just listen/speak to it for like 30 minutes a day while doing whatever is mindless.

Beyond that, for being able to read, I can highly recommend the old Italian by the Nature Method book. All you really gotta do is just sit down and read ALOUD, making sure you understand what you’re reading generally when you skim, but also being able to break down each sentence to really move on from a chapter, and to reread chapters as much as feels good to reinforce the knowledge. Something like the Nature Method effectively gives you a shitload of reading and speaking practice (and listening if you can find recordings online).

Pimsleur and the Nature Method both have built in spaced repetition, so something like Anki isn’t really necessary at this stage and might just be kind of a hassle, so it’s really optional. I would only throw anki in personally in the form of a frequency (top 1000 words) deck if I was doing enough watching of actual Italian content for it to pay off quickly. However, once you’re a few months in, input is absolutely necessary.

TL;DR Pimsleur for talking, Nature Method for reading. Do both. If only doing one, do Pimsleur. An hour a day of this will mog the shit out of duolingo.
Replies: >>213114321
Anonymous Italy
7/25/2025, 1:18:13 AM No.213113801
>>213107692
bad choice
Replies: >>213113978
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:24:01 AM No.213113978
>>213113801
Why? Russian sounds cool.
Anonymous Poland
7/25/2025, 1:30:11 AM No.213114128
>>213111148
Learn alfabet and basic pronunciation rules. Refold Anki deck, Italiano by Nature Method on YT, Pimsleur, playing vidya woth Italians, watching and listening italian as often as possible. Songs are actually very phonetic so it's a great resource
Replies: >>213114321
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:36:32 AM No.213114321
>>213111148
>>213113707
>>213114128
Notice that our advice is borderline identical. Btw Italiano Nature Method exists in pdf form online, and I think Ayan Academy has audio recordings (he also publishes [expensive] bound forms if you’re into that). Also if you take the 7 day free trial of Pimsleur, and then try to cancel on the last day, they will offer you another 28 days, so you get 35 days to make up your mind on paying for it. Which is enough time to clear all of stage 1, which will make your Italian speaking better than if your relatives put a year into Duolingo.

Technically you could just scam Pimsleur by creating new accounts every month or so and skipping ahead to where you left off. But they seem like a good service so it feels very Indian to me.
Replies: >>213123897
Anonymous Italy
7/25/2025, 1:43:32 AM No.213114505
Danish is the chaddest language
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:48:25 AM No.213114624
>>213110098
I make no effort to improve my french accent because it's hard but also because it has the added bonus of really, really pissing off french people
Replies: >>213114854
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:57:27 AM No.213114854
>>213114624
At that point you can just do a non-parisian accent like Quebecois. My French pronunciation, when mixed with my slower, drawling rural California native speech, kept getting called “Southern” sounding by my French teacher in high school. She saw it very positively, as it was just naturally coming out that way, and that accent just came easy to me. It means I’ve pissed off Parisians, but I played rugby with a guy who was from rural southern france, and he would pop-off every time I spoke a little French.

IMO Parisian french also just sounds like shit. It’s the worst kind of faggy urbanist sounding voice offered among the dialects in the language. It’s infused with soulless Uruk-Hai energy, while Quebecois is okay and various southern accents have Hobbit-like SOVL.
Replies: >>213115356
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 2:15:56 AM No.213115356
>>213114854
I feel like it's difficult to develop Quebecois accent when most media is in Parisian French
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Anonymous Argentina
7/25/2025, 3:34:20 AM No.213117003
what a i need to do if im feeling stuck in the language that im learning (english)
Replies: >>213117490
Anonymous Australia
7/25/2025, 3:46:37 AM No.213117247
Ah, french. The rap music of languages.
Replies: >>213123300
Anonymous Australia
7/25/2025, 3:48:47 AM No.213117293
>>213092327
I'm doing this because I am American and I want to create peace and understanding between our two equally retarded big countries of jingoistic animals
Replies: >>213118729
Anonymous Australia
7/25/2025, 3:52:03 AM No.213117355
>>213094638
>The thing is the Chinese are incredibly hard to work with, they lie and fuck you over at every possible situation
Give examples, I'm genuinely curious cause I might get sent to Hong Kong in 2 years time
Replies: >>213121765
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 3:59:53 AM No.213117490
>>213117003
Add something to your daily practice. Start reading a new grammar book, start a course somewhere new, read a graded reader or any book at your level, find and listen to/watch a new comprehensible input channel, add a larger vocabulary deck to whatever you're using for memorizing words, journal daily... depending on which of reading/writing/speaking/listening you feel you need the most work on.
Anonymous Australia
7/25/2025, 3:59:56 AM No.213117492
>>213110098
nah not really, I know I'll never sound like a native Russian but I don't care about that I just want to read Russian, talk to Russians, and travel around without relying on translation
Replies: >>213118729
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 5:22:07 AM No.213118729
>>213117293
>>213117492
Just curious, are you really learning Russian because you want to create peace and understanding? That seems a bit abstract.
I feel like it's hard to learn a language on your own without either being a bit obsessed by the language and culture (in a good way), or being immersed in it and taught it against your will.
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 5:26:44 AM No.213118764
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>first native semitic writing system
>doesn't write vowels unless they're after a glottal stop
why do they hate writing vowels so much?
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Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 5:41:00 AM No.213118917
>>213118764
If it has a lot of consonants, vowels may not seem like the most important thing. Some languages only have like 2 or 3 phonemic vowels. It might have seemed unimportant enough that you could leave it to context.
Anonymous Brazil
7/25/2025, 5:52:53 AM No.213119039
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>>213076024
that's very nice; this is how you actually get to master a language and not just be the average ESL or SSL (spanish) retard: you hark what you say and what you hear, nothing escapes your deliberate dissecting
Anonymous Germany
7/25/2025, 6:00:45 AM No.213119123
>>213118764
aren't vowel patterns applied to consonant stems in semtic languages super regular and thus it's kinda redundant to write them out?
Anonymous Philippines
7/25/2025, 7:45:34 AM No.213120541
>>213070668 (OP)
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
Replies: >>213120688
Anonymous Italy
7/25/2025, 7:55:46 AM No.213120688
>>213120541
She transitioned into an orangutan.
Anonymous Georgia
7/25/2025, 9:07:28 AM No.213121765
>>213117355
They tend to abuse loopholes in agreements. E.g. a contract may specify that a shipment of 10 boxes of hammers has to arrive on Saturday, but the size of those boxes is not mentioned so instead of 10 boxes with 10 hammers in each box you get 3 hammers in each box. Each little detail has to be specified.
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 9:16:56 AM No.213121908
>>213070668 (OP)
Why does it feel like Portuguese lacks something compared to Spanish, French and Italian?
Replies: >>213122074
Anonymous Norway
7/25/2025, 9:25:18 AM No.213122046
>>213115356
Remercie-moi plus tard

https://youtu.be/QjhEdJ1z2po
Anonymous Italy
7/25/2025, 9:26:54 AM No.213122074
>>213121908
It's probably the future tense.
Anonymous Poland
7/25/2025, 10:15:07 AM No.213123043
Good-Guy-Greg
Good-Guy-Greg
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>>213093863
Shouldn't be ashamed by your language command, anon. Translation skills are what you're lacking. Don't worry, interpeter's job is hard and even some academics don't risk getting into it
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Anonymous Italy
7/25/2025, 10:25:52 AM No.213123249
>>213093863
Don't worry, interpreting is the hardest thing to learn and soon it won't even exists as a job as it will be completely replaced by AI.
Replies: >>213123344
Anonymous Poland
7/25/2025, 10:28:14 AM No.213123300
>>213117247
So it's shit like (c)rap music?
Anonymous Russian Federation
7/25/2025, 10:30:37 AM No.213123344
>>213123249
Yeah I gotta change my profession, I'd much rather do IT
>>213123043
Thanks Pole bro
Anonymous Poland
7/25/2025, 10:58:30 AM No.213123897
>>213114321
Yeah, I read your TL;DR after posting my advice. You can find Pimsleur od Internet Archive. And yes, I meant Ayan Academy when I wrote that Italian Nature Method is on YouTube
Anonymous Australia
7/25/2025, 12:55:46 PM No.213126475
I did 200 cards of my 550 review backlog
Can't be bothered doing them all
Replies: >>213127871
Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 1:53:55 PM No.213127871
syntactic structures
syntactic structures
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>>213126475
Good chunk
Anonymous Canada
7/25/2025, 2:14:37 PM No.213128336
How do you maintain your language gains? Do you forget if you don't keep practicing?
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Anonymous United States
7/25/2025, 2:45:22 PM No.213129213
Portrait_of_Simón_Bolívar
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Learning Spanish, the Trap Latino of languages.
Anonymous Germany
7/25/2025, 3:02:38 PM No.213129668
>>213128336
i don't stress about it. if it's that important, i will encounter it again, and if not, then i will just learn it again or remember or whatever.